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0 Subject: Season VI redraft?

Posted by: Species
- [531110216] Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 12:38

I'm throwing out for discussion the possibility of re-drafting for Season VI. While trends come and go and wrestlers' storylines increase and decrease, let's face it we have a core of teams that have been competitive and some that could never dig out from the grave.

It might be best for everyone, and rekindle some of the original excitement. Without a doubt a re-draft would be a blast........for everyone except wiggs ;-)

I could appreciate wiggs maybe feeling singled out - but the proposal is not intended to do that. It's not his fault that he made good trades and had good drafts that created sufficient value for him to trade for his stable of studs. The suggestion to re-draft isn't anti-wiggs, it's more one of re-energizing the whole league.

Obviously this does NOT have any bearing on Season V, so people's trades and keepers and whatnot to position themselves for the next draft would not be affected.

Just a thought. It would be a blast to recreate a team all over again.
1Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 12:40
I'm always in favor of a redraft. Always.
2wiggs
      ID: 2311312214
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 12:47
As you know, I am totally against this, but that was a given :)
3Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 12:58
I guess it isn't that much of a surprise that I don't care for the idea, either. But I like the league and I like this particular group, so I'll go with whatever is decided.
4Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 13:27
as much as i'd like to see the Wiggs Empire collapse I'm against a redraft at this point. I'd feel a lot better about beating wiggs if I fixed my team instead of taking apart his.
5Species
      ID: 531110216
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 13:43
Per GO's email:

GO says...
I would do a redraft in VI but I think another idea to shake things up entirely AND not completely
screw Wiggs would be you draft where you finish next season.
You finish 1st - you just earned the number 1 pick.
Would certainly make everyone move their chips to the center of the table next season and step it up.
That would still redistribute the talent evenly - the top 40 guys or so… while also rewarding a good season with a top pick (the reward currently is you keep your team intact minus top scorer). And lord knows I am destined to finish 8th again, but I still think its fair and I think it would improve my team because instead of one guy having 8 producers and another having 4 - they will both have 6 or so wrestlers of equal caliber.

Honestly - the way things are laid out with Wigg's roster anyway, I don't think he will run away from us next season… I see some other squads that things have aligned very nicely for next year like Mike D and Tree and I love MITH's Christian/Shelton duo he is building around…

I think we tentatively agreed that the trade deadline would be the last PPV of the year before Wrestlemania… so roughly a month before.
6Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 15:39
I'm against GO's proposal if I am reading it right.

I have no interest in giving the #1 pick to the #1 team. That's just nuts.
7wiggs
      ID: 2311312214
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 16:09
farn, I think he is saying that the winner of the league deserves the number 1 pick if we do an entire new draft. If that is the case i totally agree. I dont think we need to do a redraft, because things seem to be working out pretty good the way they are, but if it happens it happens.
8Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 16:11
What I believe GO is saying is that the 1st place finisher would get the first pick (and so on) in the event of a redraft.
9Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 17:11
oh ok, that makes sense.

well if we redraft i think that's almost a must. gotta reward the winner..err..wiggs somehow.

but i still favor no redraft.
10Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 17:35
i'm not keen on a redraft. i'm more keen on people not trading with wiggs. :o)
11Great One
      ID: 551038246
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 18:59
I don't care either way... so I will abstain to get an odd number on the vote! can i do that?
12GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 20:05
GO,
If you do that, then I guess that means I can't abstain.
Will vote against it.

Rather see if I can't guess right and build something here.

Cliff
13Great One
      ID: 551038246
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 22:54
well thats 5 already I think that are against... so it doesn't really even matter at this point.

while people are checking in can we get a quick vote a proposal of stipulation bonus?

10 Point Bonus
Hell in a Cell
Elimination Chamber
Ironman
Cage Match
Ladder/Tables Match
TLC

the big ones... thats the simple proposal. we don't worry about scaling of the bonus or all the random mud matches or armwrestling contests or whatever... just the ones that matter. if there is a big one I am missing add it in please. If voting yes - vote to start now or at the beginning of next season.
Thanks.

I vote yes obviously.
Starting now.
14Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 23:10
i fought no - in most cases, these matches will be TV or PPV Main Events.

we will be awarding double points if we give more points for stips...
15Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 23:13
isn't TLC and Ladders/Tables the same basically?

Either way, I'm with Tree. It would just be overkill.
16Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 321145174
      Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 23:56
I vote nay.
17wiggs
      ID: 2311312214
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 00:24
nay as well
18kev
      ID: 43111845
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 00:27
Im just getting going after I improved my team so vastly with my last 2 trades! I vote nay!
19GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 09:18
I vote nay.
20Species
      ID: 531110216
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 11:41
I didn't intend to put a redraft to a vote -- merely for discussion. Consider it tabled.

GO then put forth a vote on stipulation matches. I vote yes. I'm not sure kev voted no on stipulation points, it seems like he's voting against re-draft.

Please be sure to clarify what you're voting for. There was no vote put up for redraft.
21Bond, James Bond
      ID: 3811142217
      Wed, Dec 29, 2004, 11:55
For what it's worth, I vote NO for the redraft and NO on the stipulation points issue.
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