Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Mon, Jan 17, 2005, 23:10
- Jericho was already in the ring when the show started. Daivari and Hassan were the first through and both got the 3 points.
- They showed Flair and HHH in the back room watching the TV 2 times during the Batista match. I gave them points for the first time they were shown. I guess the second could be counted as well. I'll leave that up to the group.
- Scored Kane/Snitsky as no contest. If they decide to tell us next week who won it can be changed.
Did they really make Batista wrestle Viscera? on TV? And were we supposed to believe Viscera could win? I scored that match before the starting bell ever run
As if the previous 2 Kane/Snitsky matchups weren't bad enough they made us sit through one on Raw. I hope this is the end of it. The crowd was so bored they were doing the wave during it. Great main event.
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Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 2824911 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 09:01
Agreed. Smackdown had that Funaki vs Nunzio main event last week, too. Whats the matter with them?
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kev
ID: 3155515 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 13:37
Did anyone notice the lack of anything good in the Batista/Visera match? It's looked horrible from the start, and you could see them talking to each other.
Then, after Kane chokeslammed Snitsky, they show Snitsky smiling and talking to Kane...he played the worst "seriously hurt" superstar ever.
One more thing- Batista has to be the best dressed Raw superstar. No one even comes close. He is always wearing suits that I myself would wear.
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Species Leader
ID: 07724916 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 14:31
lol kev. Good point about Kane and Snitsky. I flipped to RAW in time to catch their "match". Needless to say as soon as the action started up the ramp, I knew someone was going off of the stage....I suppose I was mildly surprised to see them both go, and you could see Kane mouth "You're going with me" or "I'm going with you" - something to that effect.
And I noticed the talking between the two of them as they laid in a heap as well. Yes it was bad from Snitsky's POV, but it was also bad producing and camera work. They should've changed the angle of that shot when they could see Snitsky so clearly. Needless to say you have to figure that will be discussed in production meetings this week.
I wonder why it is so hard to put these muscle-bound "monsters" over? The whole "I'm huge, and I'm a maniac" thing is so overdone. Snitsky does NOTHING for me, neither does Heidenreich, Morgan (insert name of really big dude here).
The only one to make it work lately was Batista (it seems), but that took a while and of course it helped when you're paired with Flair and HHH to help you every step of the way. Batista is over HUGE and I definitely enjoy the HHH/Batista eventual breakup angle. They've played these little mini-confrontations out VERY well, IMO.
Now that I think about it, I think they've done Tomko pretty well - Christian's "problem solver" thing was cool, especially with the Trish/Jericho angle involved. Tomko can more and more go out on his own with some legitimacy.
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Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 2824911 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 14:55
Disagree with some. I think Heidenreich is a fair (not good) character. A freaking nutjob. I liked the poetry and the Michael Cole abduction. I don't think a character like that can be expected to go very far, but he can serve a purpose from time to time much better than someone like Albert. Snitsky's isn't a decent chatacter, but I think he has a certain personal... "charm" that WWE management sees and likes, although that alone won't be enough to carry him if all they do with his character is make him just another hoss.
Agree 100% with you on Batista, but not Tomko. I think he is even less over right now than he was the first moment I saw him on WWE TV. A guy as big and mean and tough as you want Tomko to be should have had enough of going nowhere as Christian's pansie by now.
The thing that WWE too frequently forgets, I think (putting actual in-ring ability aside, of course), is that even the really big ones need to have their characters developed into the monster you want to put them over as (if thats the case). I can't say enough good things about they way they have brought along Batista.
Hopefully, they'll do something with Morgan (unlike last time they brought him up). I read two weeks ago that they're considering bringing him up in a mask. When he lost the OVW belt a couple of months ago a stipulation to his rematch was that if he lost he could never show his face on OVW again (or something to that effect) and so of course the following week he was interfering in matches in a mask. I'm pretty sure he dropped the mask a few weeks later but one site (Wrestling Observer maybe?) reported very recently that WWE really liked the look and could put him in a mask when his time comes up again.
Hopefully thats a sign that they'll try to do a little better than the standard "hoss package" with him.
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Great One
ID: 5011817 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 18:02
testing, testing... just went over to our hotel within Merrill to test out their public computer and see if this works.... looks like I may have an emergency computer - after a 10 minute walk - if i need to get a post/draft pick in... good to know.
and yeah... nice acting Snitsky lol
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Species Leader
ID: 07724916 Tue, Jan 18, 2005, 18:31
From the Wrestling Online newsletterhttp://www.wrestling-online.com :
> OOPS! SHUT YOUR MOUTH! - Rule number one for Gene Snitsky: Never talk while the camera is right above your face! Someone must've pointed that out to the still-green Snitsky, who after taking a chokeslam off the stage on RAW yesterday asked Kane, "How did it go?" while the camera was on him and the audio was perfectly caught. Kane replied "Good" and upon seeing the camera, he covered his face with his arm. Lots of Superstars get caught talking, but the the most obvious one was during the 2001 Royal Rumble PPV when Rico was on the ropes and was waiting for Jeff Hardy to move his butt when he yelled - more than he should've - "G*d dammit Jeff hurry up!" Sid and Scott Hall used to talk very loudly too during their matches in the past.