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0 Subject: Standings & Stats Week 18

Posted by: Mattinglyinthehall
- [25337239] Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 07:49

                           
  Standings Wk1 Wk2 Wk3 Wk4 Wk5 Wk6 Wk7 Wk8 Wk9 Wk10 1-10 Total 1-10 Rnk
1 This is Extreme - Mike D 112 115 61 112 349 141 85 99 130 250 1454 1
2 Rise Of The Phoenix - Great One 100 356 71 74 197 107 39 62 104 147 1257 2
3 The Flying Jalapenos - MITH 96 176 85 44 114 106 95 95 87 129 1027 3
4 Total Awesomeness - Species 73 176 90 92 79 62 59 47 60 193 931 6
5 Team Stratusfaction - Farn 34 229 45 58 141 70 78 120 34 68 877 4
6 Eight Freakin' Dwarves - Tree 98 90 101 43 202 40 41 30 87 50 782 7
7 Cripple This - Goatlocker 29 82 99 59 164 67 126 59 20 66 771 5
8 You Only Live Twice - Bond, James Bond 75 150 79 86 121 42 23 47 65 63 751 8
9 The Collapsed Lungs - Kev 42 51 31 48 186 58 77 45 63 141 742 9
10 First To Worst - Wiggs 38 150 75 53 52 12 5 63 38 20 506 10
  Weeks 11-20 Wk11 Wk12 Wk13 Wk14 Wk15 Wk16 Wk17 Wk18 Wk19 Wk20 Total Lst Wk
1 This is Extreme - Mike D 82 52 114 235 150 93 113 155     2448 1
2 Rise Of The Phoenix - Great One 116 49 36 178 83 70 51 156     1996 2
4 Team Stratusfaction - Farn 33 105 51 174 67 115 71 216     1709 3
3 Total Awesomeness - Species 93 81 63 91 49 120 55 194     1677 4
5 The Flying Jalapenos - MITH 38 53 33 154 37 52 29 91     1514 5
6 Cripple This - Goatlocker 60 7 63 220 44 55 89 122     1431 6
7 The Collapsed Lungs - Kev 79 85 59 119 29 74 24 139     1350 7
8 Eight Freakin' Dwarves - Tree 59 44 12 104 50 46 48 44     1189 8
9 You Only Live Twice - Bond, James Bond 37 62 40 41 0 37 37 67     1072 9
10 First To Worst - Wiggs 18 0 5 32 7 31 42 78     719 10
                     
  Individual Scoring             Team Stats  
                     
1 John Cena 663       First To Worst        
2 Batista 621       Wiggs Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
3 Kurt Angle 619       Viscera X   284 284
4 Chris Benoit 541       Maven X   66 66
5 Carlito Cool 523       Matt Striker X   0 40
6 Edge 514       Randy Orton X 78 162 162
7 Bradshaw 494       Steve Austin X   13 13
8 Booker T 473       Rob Van Dam X   5 5
9 Chris Jericho 459       Kid Kash     0 0
10 Heidenreich 457       Todd Shane     0 0
11 Rey Mysterio 431                
12 Shelton Benjamin 398       #Mark Jindrake 1-15     34  
13 Joey Mercury 393       #Chris Jericho 1-5     155  
14 Eddie Guerrero 383       Total   78 719  
15 Christian 363                
16 Orlando Jordan 362       The Flying        
17 Shawn Michaels 353       Jalapenos        
18 Kane 345       MITH Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
19 Johnny Nitro 333       Bradshaw X 41 494 494
20 Muhammad Hassan 318       Shelton Benjamin X 15 398 398
21 Big Show 312       Triple H     212 212
22 Viscera 284       Psicosis X 30 159 159
23 Daivari 225       Jilian Hall X 5 29 31
24 Hurricane 214       Trevor Rhodes X   0 0
25 Triple H 212       Paul Birchall X   0 0
26 Chris Masters 207       Kenzo Suzuki     0 0
  Rob Conway 207                
28 Animal 203       #Matt Morgan 1-15     197  
29 Rosey 202       #Akio 1-15     25  
30 Melina 201       Total   91 1514  
31 Matt Morgan 197                
32 Hulk Hogan 196       This Is Extreme                
33 Undertaker 189       Mike D Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
34 Hardcore Holly 180       John Cena X 108 663 663
35 Eric Bischoff 164       Carlito Cool X 5 523 523
  Ric Flair 164       Booker T X 17 473 473
  Super Crazy 164       Big Show X 20 312 312
38 Randy Orton 162       Animal X 5 198 203
39 Kerwin White 161       Sylvan Granier     118 118
40 Psicosis 159       Doug Basham     94 94
  Gene Snitsky 159       Victoria X   67 94
42 Paul London 156                
43 Lita 154       Total   155 2448  
44 Christy Hemme 153                
45 Simon Dean 140       This Reeks of Total        
46 Eugene 129       Awesomeness        
47 Antonio 126       Species Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
48 Tyson Tomko 123       Edge X 47 514 514
49 Juvented Guerrera 119       Christian X 17 363 363
50 Sylvan Granier 118       Shawn Michaels X 55 353 353
51 Romeo Roselli 114       Gene Snitsky X 12 109 159
52 Charlie Haas 104       Eric Bischoff X 19 160 164
53 Matt Hardy 103       Matt Hardy X 44 96 103
54 Sharmell 99       Sabu     0 0
55 Tajiri 95       Brock Lesnar     0 0
56 Doug Basham 94                
  Victoria 94       #Dan Basham 1-11     82  
58 Scotty2Hotty 93           194 1677  
59 Val Venis 92                
60 Funaki 79       You Only Live        
61 William Regal 72       Twice        
62 Coach 69       Bond, James Bond Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
  Theodore Long 69       Kane X   87 345
  Torrie Wilson 69       Hurricane X   36 214
65 Lilian Garcia 68       Hardcore Holly   15 108 180
  Candice Michelle 68       Ric Flair X 5 164 164
67 Maven 66       Hulk Hogan X 62 72 196
68 Renee Dupree 65       Simon Dean X   140 140
69 Stacey Keibler 55       Tajiri     95 95
  Todd Grisham 55       William Regal X   48 72
71 Steven Richards 54                
72 Jim Ross 50       #Funaki 1-12     40  
73 Jerry Lawler 49       #Hassan 1-10     282  
74 Maria 44       Total   67 1072  
  Michael Cole 44                
76 Matt Striker 40       The Collapsed        
77 Tazz 39       Lungs        
78 Shannon Moore 35       Kev Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
79 Mark Jindrake 34       Kurt Angle X 77 619 619
  Blue Meanie 34       Chris Masters X 5 207 207
81 Trish Stratus 33       Undertaker X 27 189 189
82 Jilian Hall 31       Lita X 5 154 154
83 Ken Kennedy 30       Christy Hemme X 15 153 153
  Nunzio 30       Stacey Keibler X 10 28 55
85 Josh Matthews 29       Billy Kidman     0 15
86 Michelle McCool 27       Luther Reigns     0 0
87 Cloacus 25                
  Akio 25       Total   139 1350  
89 Vince McMahon 23                
90 Ashley 22       Team        
91 Paul Heyman 20       Stratusfaction        
  Bob Orton 20       Farn Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
93 Steve Romero 18       Chris Jericho X 71 304 459
94 Rob Eckos 17       Eddie Guerrero X 44 383 383
95 Billy Kidman 15       Orlando Jordan X 41 347 362
  Chad Patton 15       Rosey X   190 202
  Spike Dudley 15       Rob Conway X 30 207 207
  Jimmy Jacobs 15       Super Crazy X 30 154 164
  Mikey Wiplash 15       Antonio     52 126
  Sgt. Slaughter 15       Trish Stratus     33 33
101 Steve Austin 13                
102 Josh Daniels 12       #Hulk Hogan 1-5     39  
  Damian Adams 12       Total   216 1709  
  Julio Dinero 12                
  Chris Hamrick 12       Eight Freakin'        
  Chuch Tealy 12       Dwarves        
  Pocket Rocket 12       Tree Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
  Nick Berg 12       Joey Mercury X 5 393 393
  Leyla 12       Kerwin White X 2 161 161
  Summer 12       Paul London X   156 156
  Kristal 12       Juvented Guerrera X 10 119 119
  Elizabeth 12       Eugene X 27 94 129
  Simona 12       Spanky     0 0
  Cameron 12       James Gibson     0 0
  Alexis 12       Ken Kennedy   30 0 30
  Ruffington Fierce 12                
  Johnny Devine 12       #Blue Meanie 11-14     24  
118 Kamala 10       #Daivari 1-14     225  
  Melissa Coates 10       #Bubba Dudley 1-11     17  
  Tatanka 10       Total   44 1189  
  Godfather 10                
  Roddy Piper 10       Cripple This        
123 Steve Lewington 7       GoatLocker Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
  Miss Jackie 7       Chris Benoit X 99 541 541
  Joy Giovanni 7       Heidenreich X 18 457 457
126 Rob Van Dam 5       Melina X 5 126 201
  Kim Chee 5       Tyson Tomko X   123 123
  Rob Schneider 5       Renee Dupree X   65 65
  Sandman 5       Big Vito X   0 0
  Balls Mahoney 5       Brent Albright     0 0
  Axl Rotten 5       Samoa Joe     0 0
  Lauren Jones 5                
  Tommy Dreamer 5       #Charlie Haas 1-13     104  
  Rhyno 5       #Spike Dudley 1-11     15  
  James DeFalco 5       Total   122 1431  
  Andy Baker 5                
137 Gene Okerlund 2       Rise of the Phoenix        
  Kid Kash 0       Great One Active This Week Total Tm Pts Total Points
  Todd Shane 0       Batista X 79 621 621
  Trevor Rhodes 0       Rey Mysterio X 67 431 431
  Paul Birchall 0       Muhammad Hassan     36 318
  Kenzo Suzuki 0       Johnny Nitro X 10 333 333
  Sabu 0       Romeo Roselli X   98 114
  Brock Lesnar 0       Garrison Cade X   0 0
  Luther Reigns 0       Boogeyman X   0 0
  Spanky 0       CM Punk     0 0
  James Gibson 0                
  Big Vito 0       #Ste Richards 14-15     24  
  Brent Albright 0       #D'Von Dudley 1-11     17  
  Samoa Joe 0       #Hurricane 1-10     178  
  Garrison Cade 0       #Kane 1-10     258  
  Boogeyman 0       Total   156 1996  
  CM Punk 0                
            Free Agents   This Week   Total Points
            Daivari       225
            Matt Morgan       197
            Charlie Haas       104
            Scotty2Hotty       93
            Sharmell   5   99
            Val Venis       92
            Coach   7   69
            Theodore Long   9   69
            Torrie Wilson   10   69
            Lilian Garcia   10   68
            Steven Richards       54
            Candice Michelle   10   68
            Funaki   15   79
            Todd Grisham   7   55
            Jim Ross   7   50
            Jerry Lawler   7   49
            Maria   7   44
            Shannon Moore       35
            Michael Cole   7   44
            Mark Jindrake       34
            Blue Meanie       34
            Nunzio       30
            Tazz   7   39
            Michelle McCool       27
            Cloacus       25
            Akio       25
            Josh Matthews   4   29
            Paul Heyman       20
            Vince McMahon   5   23
            Rob Eckos       17
            Steve Romero       18
            Chad Patton       15
            Spike Dudley       15
            Jimmy Jacobs       15
            Mikey Wiplash       15
            Sgt. Slaughter       15
            Josh Daniels       12
            Damian Adams       12
            Julio Dinero       12
            Chris Hamrick       12
            Chuch Tealy       12
            Pocket Rocket       12
            Nick Berg       12
            Ashley   10   22
            Leyla       12
            Summer       12
            Kristal       12
            Elizabeth       12
            Simona       12
      Cameron       12
      Alexis       12
      Ruffington Fierce       12
      Johnny Devine       12
      Kamala       10
      Melissa Coates       10
      Tatanka       10
      Godfather       10
      Roddy Piper       10
      Bob Orton   20   20
      Steve Lewington       7
      Miss Jackie       7
      Joy Giovanni       7
      Kim Chee       5
      Rob Schneider       5
      Sandman       5
      Balls Mahoney       5
      Axl Rotten       5
      Lauren Jones       5
      Tommy Dreamer       5
      Rhyno       5
      James DeFalco       5
      Andy Baker       5
      Gene Okerlund       2
1Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 25337239
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 07:55
Sorry, Tree, you didn't start Kennedy.

We've got to get around to dishing out turn points. HBK definitely gets them for turning heel to feud with Hogan. I don't think Y2J ever got them. Eddie Guerrero too. HBK might get them for turning back. If so, think its safe to say his heel turn for the Hogan feud was in fact a full turn and not just a swerve. Anyone else?
2Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 25337239
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 08:00
BTW, 2 more PPVs left. We will enter Week 19 this week and season ends at the completion of Week 25. I believe the beginning of Week 21 will be our trade deadline.
3Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 08:12
Up early today, eh MITH? THANKS!
4 Bond, James Bond
      ID: 187172522
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 08:43
Once again, thanks for the fine job MITH.

IMO, HBK's turn was full and complete. Not sure about his next confrontation with Masters. I smell a rat here.

Y2J should have definitely received turn points if he hadn't already. In fact, there ought to be bonus points for being fired!!! ;)

As always, I am open for any trade talks. Apparently my team really, really sucks so admittedly there may be limited interest. But there may be a spare part or two there that may spark someone's interest. My sole goal is to make my team better. I have no hidden agenda. As such, you can be assured, I have no untouchables. Let the trading begin!!!!
5Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 08:50
Bond, considering the team you took over, you've certainly done a fine job.
6Bond, James Bond
      ID: 187172522
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 09:02
LOL!!! Can't do much worse than 9th place. Not exactly an improvement.
7Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 09:02
In a keeper league you can't turn it around overnight. If this was a REDRAFT league like some of suggested it should be (lol) you could have.....
8GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 10:36
Mike D and his love for drafts...LOL
He'll never give up.

Great job as always MITH
If my dang wrestlers would just wrestle I'd be in better shape.

Or, if some of the pickups would get called up.

Cliff
9wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Aug 27, 2005, 11:37
I think Viscera should get turn points as well. He was always a thug and then with the lillian thing he bacame a fan favorite.
10Tree
      Sustainer
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:12
i dont think HBK was a turn. his reasons for kicking Hogan were simply "i want a match with him", and now that he's feuding with Masters and Triple C, seems to me he never was a heel.

Flair on the other hand - is he a face now?
11Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 13:24
I disagree. HBK was exhibiting heel behavior. Explicitly mocking Hogan whenever possible even though he was not provoked. He was definitely playing a heel character to Hogan's babyface. I think the "I had to know for real" excuse was just a way to him to easily transition back into a face role.

Now, some might say that he is still dissing Hogan. I think that's true but there are two issues with that as a counter. First, I don't think he has quite earned turn points yet for going back to a babyface, so there's a little room for him to ride the fence while he transitions. Second, jabs at Hogan are now usually much more implicit than they were during the feud. And when they do come, I think they are more Shawn Michaels speaking for himself and not the HBK character he is playing for WWE.

The argument for his not being a heel that I thought some might find valid is that since the feud was pretty short (about 5 weeks?), I was thinking some might think it was more of a swerve.
12Great One
      ID: 25772813
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:19
I cannot decide one way or the other on this one... too many shades of grey..

One thing I CAN decide on is that the Edge/Hardy match is what it should have been at Summerslam in the first place. They could have had it end like that in a no contest - then did the thing where they keep them seperated for 3 weeks til the next PPV and make that a Street Fight or I Quit or whatever... seems like they kind of did it too late - and then too early in a way.

That is unless they come out next week and say they are meeting in a dog-collar match or something crazy for the PPV.

And I gotta say.. if nothing else - Y2J has at least left me the phrase "Sideshow Bob" in my head everytime I see Carliiiiiiitoooooo....
13Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:57
It's funny. In all the threads/posts about "turn" points, I don't recall ever talking about the length of time involved like this. It's a relevant question. In my mind, HBK was the heel in their brief feud. Everyone acts that way against Hogan-----remember Rock at Wrestlemania when the fans were against him? Clearly no turn points applied for one match. But how about for a period of say 1 month? Good question.

I don't really recall HBK interacting with anyone else much during that period other than Hogan. That makes it even more unusual, and more difficult.
14Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:00
HBK was a hell. Period. In the grand scheme it doesn't make a difference in my standings, so I'm not arguing necessarily on behalf of getting the points....

....but our only definition is that the turn must be "clear". I don't know how much more clear you can be when Michaels is mocking, attacking, promoting, and playing to the crowd for heat in the heel role in the Main Event of the 2nd biggest PPV of the year.

Michaels ceased playing to the crowd as a face for a span of 5 weeks. After his loss to Hogan he turned back, 'apologized'/explained himself, and began playing to the crowd as a face again. Two turns, IMO.

We've never given it a period of time requirement, just that the turn has to be 'clear'. I think it was a clear turn, albeit a fairly short one.
15Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 14:18
From GO, via email.........

I think Species is correct - 2 heel turns.

If we just put each turn in a vacuumn (hell, the sweet chin music on Hogan was worth 25 points right there lol)... and ignored time between (and frankly we should), its pretty clear they are both solid, decisive turns.

GO
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