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0 Subject: Indy Talk

Posted by: Great One
- [25772813] Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 18:09

Trying to keep independent talk out of our league threads.

Great video package for this weekends AJ Styles (w/Mick Foley) vs. Jimmy Rave battle in Long Island NY. Loser will never again be able to use their signature finishing move (its almost identical). ROH has stepped up lately with these video packages on their homepage. A great idea. They should really post some of those tribute videos the fans work on which are so amazing.

Preview AJ Styles vs Jimmy Rave 9/17/05
1Great One
      ID: 25772813
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 18:18
damn - those two bumps at about the 30 second mark (onto the chair in the ring and from the ring to the outside table) were probably the highlight of that Philly show for me I was just reminded. These two work really well together.
2Tree
      ID: 298421218
      Mon, Sep 12, 2005, 19:46
i'm going to watch it now.

they probably work well together because AJ trained Jimmy.
3Great One
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      ID: 053272014
      Sat, Jan 21, 2006, 23:49
ROH Videos

Looks like ROH now has a section devoted to videos now. Has a little package for some of the various stars, show previews, promos and a couple dark matches (that Jack Evans dark match in Philly Tree, don't know if you were even in your seat yet).
4Tree
      ID: 39015228
      Sun, Jan 22, 2006, 09:17
i got into the building a little late because i was at the CZW show, and missed most of the student match (that sent Pelle Primeaux to the hospital), but i did see Evans vs. Davis....it was a decent, if unspectacular match, but showed a lot of what Evans can do.
5Great One
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      Sun, Jan 22, 2006, 11:23
I thought Davis was a student frankly, but he was ok. I was thinking they were just trying to get him some ring time since he was replacing Azreal in the 6 man - who was replacing Milano -who pulled out that day.

Even though its essentially a dark match with no crowd, a good easy way from these guys to see a few of Jacks spots.

Evans is supposedly involved with this new MTV wrestling pilot they are shooting. Along with Teddy Hart, Matt Sydal, Justin Incredible, Xpac, Vampiro (I love that guy!) and a few others.
6Tree
      ID: 39015228
      Sun, Jan 22, 2006, 12:32
Trik Davis wrestles in the midwest quite a bit - for IWA-MS i do believe.
7Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 10:31
WORLD OF WRESTLING

you *may* get pop ups on this site. i'd reccomend using mozilla, or some other browser that blocks popups and prevents spyware from being downloaded.

but it's worth a read. i know the writer personally, and he's a damned good guy... :o)
8Great One
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      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 17:58
From: ROHwrestling.com


Lance Storm has won titles everywhere he has gone from Japan to SMW to ECW to
WCW to WWE. He retired from the ring last June with no reason to ever return.
Now Storm has the itch and it is all because of one athlete. He has found his
love for the sport of pro wrestling again and it is because of ROH World
Champion Bryan Danielson.

Storm and Danielson came face-to-face at "Steel Cage Warfare" on December 3rd.
Storm told Danielson that if he were ever to come out of retirement it would be
to wrestle someone like him. Since that time the itch began to grow in Storm and
he felt the need to return to the ring to compete against Danielson.

Storm has signed one of Bryan Danielson's open contracts for a World Title shot.
It will be Lance Storm vs. Bryan Danielson for the ROH World Title on April 1st
in Chicago (ROHwrestling.com, 215-781-2500, Ticketmaster outlets for tickets and
info). Of course, Danielson must still be champion on April 1st. Even if
Danielson loses the belt, it will still be Danielson vs. Storm on 4/1 in
Chicago.

"After a 10 month absence, I will be returning to active competition April 1st
to challenge the current ROH World Champion Bryan Danielson," Storm said. "I now
have 10 weeks to get myself in the best shape of my life. I have never been more
focused or set in a direction as I am right now. My only hope is that he is
still the Champion come April 1st as a World Title run is the only thing that
has eluded me in my career."
9Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 18:00
i'll be there, second row.
10Great One
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      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 22:42
Somebody click on the link in post 3 - and watch Jim Cornette's promo against CZW (Combat Zone Wrestling) that ROH just posted.

Cliffs notes - CZW (philly based hardcore organization) is running an ROH vs. CZW invasion type angle.

CZW invaded the a midwest show last weekend - and when they were brawling - Cornette got his front teeth knocked out. You know its intense when your freakin' commish gets his teeth knocked out and bleeds all over the place lol...

That is one of the best promo's I have ever seen. I am ready to go kick some CZW butt myself right now!
11Tree
      ID: 1015834
      Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 06:03
dude, i was there when Cornette came out, mouth covered in blood, litterally still spitting out parts of his teeth, cutting the in-ring promo.

and when Adam Pearce came out to confront Necro Butcher, the place exploded...out-motherf*cking-standing.

ROH is what pro wrestling is all about.

oh yea, look for the World of Wrestling column...if i haven't mentioned it already, that Josh guy is a damned good writer...
12Great One
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      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Feb 14, 2006, 22:45
just click, its a flash player, nothing to download.

The infamous Cornette promo... now THIS is how you do a promo kids...

and
in response, Chris Hero invades ROH taping for the WB morning show on the streets of NYC
13Great One
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      Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 21:06
Between The Ropes
Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Central Florida's Sports Radio 740 The Team
Simulcast online at BetweenTheRopes.com

On Wednesday night, February 22, legendary wrestling manager Jim Cornette joined hosts Brian Fritz, Dickerman, and Vito DeNucci live on Between The Ropes on Central Florida's Sports Radio 740 The Team to discuss life after WWE/OVW, today's product, the new rookies on the WWE roster, Matt Cappotelli, working ROH, wrestling reunions, and lots more.

Jim immediately started off with one of his many classic commentaries of the evening. "I'm just watching the 11 o'clock news here in beautiful Louisville, Kentucky and I've got breaking news for you. You might not have heard about it on the AP wires. They have found a solution to the Dubai port situation. Instead of letting Dubai take control of our ports, they are going to let the WWE do it. That way, not only the terrorists won't want to come, but nobody will want to come to the ports."

Cornette talked about his recent work as commissioner with Ring of Honor, which cost him a tooth at a ROH show in Dayton, Ohio at the hands of "some of those garbage hardcore wrestlers, which I'm not even going to dignify them by mentioning their names." He enjoys watching the young talent trying to prove themselves in ROH, which has given the people an alternative to the wrestling that's on national TV.

"So much of professional wrestling unfortunately is crap these days, to try to sugarcoat it as much as possible. I'd rather see my mother hooked up to a machine than watch anything on national television these days practically. Although, I've got no problem with the TNA product. I guess I was specifically talking about WWE. I guess that's what I was doing. So much stuff that you see just really insults your intelligence. With Ring of Honor, you know the wrestlers are trying hard. They're giving their all. They want to tear the house down. They want to be noticed. They want to get ahead."

Asked what he thinks WWE needs to do to create a more compelling product again, Jim responded, "I think probably a mainstreaming in the medical community of brain transplants. I mean, I don't know. I can't come up with an answer for why anybody with that much talent on the roster and that much money to spend on advertising and promotion and that much technical expertise in the television studio would consistently produce crap on national television. I really can't understand it. I don't know what the cause of it is. I don't know what the cure for it is."

Cornette said he doesn't watch a lot of wrestling except for Ring of Honor and the legends shows he participates in. "I don't watch WWE on television. I can't do that to myself. Life is too short and I'm on blood pressure medicine as it is." He has seen a little TNA on TV and considers the X Division "groundbreaking." He put over Samoa Joe as a superstar that WWE let get away because of his look. "It's almost like the person involved with hiring talent in WWE was a tall, awkward, gawky guy with two left feet and no charisma who worked in a bland style and never drew...oh, I'm sorry."

Jim says that from what he's seen of TNA, the company may not have a star like The Rock or Steve Austin, or even a Chris Benoit level in-ring performer, but they don't put insulting segments on their television show that produce "click heat," in viewers take the remote and click to a different channel.

Jim plugged his participation in the World Wrestling Legends 6:05 Reunion pay-per-view taping on March 5 at the Hard Rock Live in Orlando, Florida. Cornette will lead all three members of The Midnight Express against The Armstrongs in a six-man tag. Jim will also be involved in the Capitol Wrestling Legends FanFest from August 11-13 in Rockville, Maryland. He'll be participating in a Q&A session with his friendly rival Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. Jim talked about all of fun he's had at the various wrestling conventions over the past couple of years in seeing all of his old friends.

Talk shifted back to the current wrestling product. Jim said the art of the promo has been lost in WWE since the same people with the same viewpoint are writing lines for every wrestler. The lack of passion and emotion results in a lack of ticket sales. He said that wrestling needs credibility and you can't sell a blatantly phony product to the people.

The discussion moved on to Ohio Valley Wrestling and some of the talent that has gone through the territory en route to the WWE main roster. "That is one of the main bones of contention between myself and the WWE, which led to me being off an on camera position and off of a creative position here in Louisville. I see guys that are being trained and have talent and have potential that are not ready yet being called up. I see guys that are ready being called up and not given a chance to play to their strengths and accentuate their positives and try to eliminate their weaknesses. I see a lot of stuttering, retarded, goofy people. I see guys eating worms. The point is, it takes years to train and give experience to a quality wrestler and it takes literally weeks or months to negate all of his potential by presenting him in the wrong fashion. I'm excited for some of the guys' success that they've had, like John Cena, who's a tremendous guy, and like Randy Orton that we've trained here. And I also see what could have been with some other guys like Matt Morgan. Johnny Jeter is a tremendous talent. To me, he's like a 21st century Ricky Morton, but unfortunately in a group of five guys who all look the same and all wear the same clothes, I don't know whether anybody is going to get to see that or not."

When asked for his opinion on the use of Eddie Guerrero's death in the Randy Orton-Rey Mysterio WWE storyline, Jim commented, "It's horse manure. I know we're on the radio. I'll try not to get you kicked off by the FCC. I don't have terms strong enough to express how ridiculous and pointless and useless and in bad taste. Wrestling is all about bad taste, but you have to do bad taste and good taste. It's unnecessary. There's no reason for it. I don't know why anybody would want to do it and I don't know why anybody would want to watch it. I don't know why."

The interview concluded with discussion of Matt Cappotelli and his health. "I think that Matt did a tremendous job with a very tough situation. It wasn't presented in any way in terms of a storyline or in terms to further a match. It was simply that the folks in Louisville care about Matt Cappotelli. He's a great kid. The fans like him. The wrestlers like him. He's worked his butt off here. He was given the opportunity to tell everybody at the same time. The wrestlers did not know. Very people knew. He had just gotten his diagnosis the day before and he was given the platform to go on television and tell everybody at the same time what was going on. I did watch that. I think that was handled in the right way. Everybody is in Matt's corner. He's come back from a broken leg. He's come back from concussions. He's come back from injuries. He has the courage. He has the mindset. If anybody can whip this and come back and still do what he wants to do, it's Matt Cappotelli."
14Great One
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      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 18:20
from ROHWrestling.com message board..

Ring Of Honor is very pleased to announce that NWA Champion Christian Cage is heading to ROH for one night only. Christian will see action inside the ROH ring on Friday, May 12th in Long Island at Sports Plus Entertainment. This will be your only chance to see Christian Cage compete inside a ROH ring. ROH will sign him against a top competitor. We'll have more news on this in the upcoming weeks. Tickets for this event are on sale now at ROHwrestling.com, by calling 215-781-2500 and at Ticketmaster outlets.
15Great One
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      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Mar 27, 2006, 22:20
The Jim Cornette promo... just hit play (maybe wait a few seconds to give it a head start) and take notes on how to cut a freaking promo :)

16Great One
      ID: 16241318
      Fri, Mar 31, 2006, 09:41
Tree - let me know how the ROH TripleShot shows are going if you can check in.
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