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0 Subject: Week 12 Raw Points

Posted by: Farn
- Sustainer [451044109] Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:32

RAW Tonight's Total        
           
Antonio 0        
Ashley 18 18      
Big Show 0        
Candice 0        
Carlito Cool 27 2 25    
Charlie Haas 0        
Chavo Guerrero 30 30      
Chris Jericho 0        
Chris Masters 27 2 25    
Chris Nowinski 0        
Danny Basham 0        
Daivari 5 5      
Dusty Rhodes 0        
Edge 2 2      
Eric Bischoff 0        
Eugene 0        
Gene Snitsky 25 15 10    
Goldust 0        
Gregory Helms 0        
Hacksaw Duggan 0        
HHH 2 2      
Jamal 0        
Jerry Lawler 2 2      
Jimmy Snuka 0        
Joey Styles 2 2      
John Cena 15 3 5 2 5
Johnathan Coachman 2 2      
Kamala 0        
Kane 45 30 5 10  
Kurt Angle 14 2 12    
Lance Cade 0        
Lillian Garcia 0        
Lita 7 5 2    
Maria 0        
Matt Striker 0        
Mick Foley 0        
Mickie James 10 5 5    
Nick Nemeth 0        
Renee Dupree 0        
Ric Flair 5 5      
Rob Conway 15 15      
Romeo 0        
Rosey 0        
Shane McMahon 0        
Shawn Michaels 16 2 12 2  
Shelton Benjamin 32 2 30    
Stephanie McMahon 0        
Steve Austin 0        
Tajiri 0        
Todd Grisham 2 2      
Torrie Wilson 0        
Trevor Murdoch 0        
Trish Stratus 15 10 5    
Tyson Tomko 0        
Vader 0        
Val Venis 17 2 15    
Victoria 0        
Vince McMahon 4 2 2    
Viscera 0        
William Regal 0        
Mae Young 0        
Moolah 0        
Sgt Slaughter 0        
Shelton's Mamma 7 2 5    
         
Tonight's Total Points 346        
1Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:32
- gave Mickie 5 for her prematch hijinks and 5 more for intefering.

- no points to Daivari for his part in the HBK/Angle backstage interview. He said nothing and wasn't addressed.


For a show following a PPV I expected very little. And I got even less. The finalization in the movement to have Angle take on HBK was good. But Masters taking on Carlito wasn't finalized. I also had to sit through another boring and predictable Shelton Benjamin match. I like that he is on TV but ditch his mom and let him fight real competion.

The sex scene with Lita and Edge was both nice and disgusting. Vince McMahon may have reached an alltime low with this scene. I remember the days when there were wrestling matches on Raw. I wonder if that ever comes back.

(side note: I'll score NYRevolution from the video tomorrow.)
2Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:41
I was praying 3 Minute Warning would come out and say Edge had gone about 3 minutes too long...

I feel bad for any parents that were in attendance with children or who happened to be watching on tv, just more embarrassing than usual.

Seems like they are doing everything they can to get cheers for Cena as he obviously gets cheered vs. the slut Lita and for saving Flair etc.
3Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:41
And this HHH/Show fued has just halted my scoring the last few weeks... how about another contract signing or staredown! whohoo!!
4Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:42
GO, are you sure your scoring isn't slowing down because you mistakenly traded Lashley assuming Mike D couldn't catch up and then allowed him to make moves that will have him do just that very soon?

Like I told you in my email a couple weeks ago, you are letting him get back into the race for first and it may bite you in the end.
5Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:44
Yeah Mike will likely win. No big deal.
6Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:47
Lashley did barely outscore Punk last week though so I wouldn't really say thats had too much of an effect.
7Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:47
if you could go back would you hold on to Lashley? And consider trading for Trish?

I have to admit those 2 moves really baffled me 2 weeks ago.
8Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:52
Not really, I have 4 guys set to debut. So assuming at least 2 or 3 do successfully, then I would have too many people anyway.

I may have waited another month and then swapped Lashley for Punk but thats the only guy I wanted.

Only other option was something Wiggs and I discussed involving Lashley for RVD.
9wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:54
i thought we still had something going with that trade then the next thing I knew he was making an announcement about a different trade.
10slosh23
      ID: 54857316
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:57
For a post PPV Raw, I would definitely give it a thumbs down, especially since they just have a couple of weeks before the next PPV. From the TNA aspect it was nice to see Ashley on TV (plus Lita was looking good too). : )

Only 2 points for Edge? Looking at the scores I think Edge and Lita are both missing the 5 pts? for the ending segment.

Not to open a bag of worms, but a lot of the backstage stuff that used to be shown on TV is now being done on the Unlimited online show ... any thoughts about scoring for some of those shots?

11Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 23:59
hmm... weird, something went screwy when I scored it.

But, I can do it from memory easy enough.

Edge and Lita +5 more (added to sheet already Mike D)

Oh, and there is no way to score the wwe.com segments. No way to regulate it and video of it is not always available on the website at a later day for scoring disputes. Plus its not always for certain somebody will be available each Monday night for live scoring. And there is no Smackdown equivalent to make it fair.
12slosh23
      ID: 54857316
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 00:06
Thx Farn. (kinda sucks that segment only gets 5 for each since it went longer than some of the matches)

As to Unlimited that's what I was afraid of (hard to check, plus the availabilty of scorers), but thought I would throw it out since it seems to be the "training" ground for the young guys to work on the mic skills ... ie what used to be shown as backstage shots.
13Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 00:36
Thanks Farn for scoring as always.

The weirdest thing about the Lashley/Trish deals is a story.....about the timing.

I had made up my mind to dig up the initial e-mail from Farn from a couple of weeks before in which Trish was involved BEFORE I saw the GO deal, but it was the SAME DAY that I made my mind up. I had initially told Farn he made good points which I hadn't thought of and that I needed to really look at things. Well, as usual, I got busy, and I never really got around to it. So I'm searching for his e-mail, and can't find it! THEN I saw GO and Species announce the Lashley deal. GO's comment about Booker getting hurt and him having a lead fits right into my earlier thoughts about going back to Farn for Trish. I realize I'm gonna look stupid (more than usual) when I go to Farn! I'm gonna look like I'm dying here.....and I need to make a deal to counteract GO. I tell Farn this, not knowing if he'll even believe me, and get heavy into the trade discussions. We strike the deal, and I realize I'll keep all this under my hat and if it "looks" like I'm countering GO, so be it! If it works out, it looks like genius! If it scares GO, bonus points! And if I still end up losing, I acquired a hot freakin' diva.

Cheers to all of you crazys sharin' the fun in this league. We are indeed a rare breed.
14slosh23
      ID: 54857316
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 00:47
"rare breed" ... LOL!!!

We are the freaks on a fantasy sports message board. : )
15Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 11:15
I have no freakin' idea what Mike D says in post 13. Dude were you drunk?!? ;-)

....I did get the last line though. This league has been a kick butt league. It's been a lot of fun to make up the rules, tweak them, argue them, see WWE.com steal the concept, and then just be able to talk about the entertainment value of wrestling - and to drool over our favorite divas.
16Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 11:35
I had a dream about Ashley last night. Yep. It was a good nights sleep!
17Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 11:37
lol - yeah, saw the highlight of her ripping open her top after winning the b & p match. I love inhibition!

Sorry you're "sick" again, GO! Remind me to move my 401k as obviously some of my fees are going down the drain! ;-)
18Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 11:51
cough cough... go Merrill Lynch... cough cough...
19Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 13:40
1. do Edge and Lita get main event points?
2. does Edge get boner points for having an erection?
3. does Lita get point for really being totally naked, and actually having her breasts and nipples on live network TV, even if only for a few seconds?
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