Posted by: Species
- Dude [07724916] Mon, Apr 09, 2007, 13:19
Thanks to everyone for an absolutely thrilling Season VIII. We have some new members in our group and so far I have to say that everyone has taken to the spirit of our little league quite well. Rude's trash talking and dancing, Zyre & Bobo dropping plenty of non-WWE knowledge, etc.
So our newcomers may or may not know, but has probably been discussed somewhere, we usually take a 2-week hiatus between seasons. During that time we declare keepers, set the draft order and have our 4-round draft. The draft order is done by averaging the strength of your keepers and your position in the standings to try to guard against tanking in the standings.
Accordingly, we do "blind" keepers that are sent to the league champion, who presumably will have the last pick anyway. The highest scorer on your roster, as determined by the column marked "YTD Total Points", is automatically thrown back into the draft so that each year we have some studs to choose from in the first round of the draft. This column can be different from the "YTD Team Points" column due to trades. For example, for Great One John Cena is the top scorer on his team even though he traded for him during the year. You must then choose your four preferred keepers after your top scorer is tossed back to the draft pool.
So send your preferred 4 keepers to me here: gmrobinson1 (at) yahoo (dot) com (did I do that right to avoid getting 1000 spam messages? lol)
I'll try to look up the WWE PPV schedule and post it later (or if someone else has it, that would be outstanding).
Anyone have a problem with a Thursday, 12:00pm ET keeper deadline?? Then start the draft Friday? Or is Monday more appropriate?
Once keepers are declared, hopefully Mike D can post a list of available wrestlers for the draft with points scored in Season VIII.
Note: Pretty much anybody is available to draft, no matter what circuit they are on. So guys like Kurt Angle, Abyss, ROH guys, DSW, OVW - it don't matter. We only have a 2-man bench though so it's not like you can afford a ton of speculative picks.
Another note: The person you draft sticks with them no matter what persona/name/gimmick they have. If you draft Abyss and he comes to the WWE as "IRS Jr." in a shirt, tie and briefcase, and it's the same dude, your draft pick of Abyss sticks. If you own Foley and he wrestles as Dude Love, it sticks. Etc.
Other rules/quirks/etc to be pointed out for the newcomers are welcomed. Here's to another great RotoGuru Wrestling Federation season!
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Fri, Apr 13, 2007, 14:18
Why does he even bother going? or is he like my father and just dislike traffic that bad?!
I am available to take a queue for the rest of the day. my wife and kid are sick and it is snowing so I am home bound all night watching old 24s.
BTW, Mark Henry would not have made it past me. I actually originally had him as a keeper and then changed my mind last minute. I probably should have left it the original way and it would have moved me up a position in the draft.
I checked and I believe most of the members of the LWO, Mean Street Posse, and the Oddities are still available. Villano IV, Pete Gas, Kurrgan, and Luna Vachon are all waiting by their respective phones with bated breath, did I mention Villano's I-III are still available as well?
Z
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Sat, Apr 14, 2007, 09:16
I was leaning towards The Repo Man or Koko B.Ware!
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sat, Apr 14, 2007, 11:57
Shhh! Don't mention undrafted wrestlers! I'd hate to see someone take the Birdman because you mentioned him, instead of allowing him to go to waivers so I can claim him later......
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Sat, Apr 14, 2007, 17:51
I left a message on Trees phone for him to get Bobo's pick (and to check on extra tickets for ROH in NJ tonight, cause I got none!)....
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sat, Apr 14, 2007, 21:44
I am not sure as to what to do. Bobo had sent me his round 2 queue with this quote from it:
"my queue and you'll probably need to use this to complete my draft picks:"
I emailed him after Farn's pick to say I wanted to give him a chance to rearrange his queue.......but no response.
Anyone have any objections to me picking from his queue?
Species, I have Goat's next pick too so we can fly through this spot.
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Tree
ID: 1326151 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 03:28
sorry GO - there were no solid tickets around...
as for Bobo, i don't think i have a queue pick for him for the 4th round. i'll have to text him when it's not 3:30 in the a.m. and i just returned from a wrestling show...
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 11:48
"Opening roster deadline is 04/23/07 at 9 PM ET."
So no hurry to get the draft done asap (although it will be done today probably)........and no points next week I guess.
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 11:54
emailed Tree, I'll be here all day..
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Tree
ID: 23191510 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 12:19
i'm here. just got up a short while ago. didn't get home from ROH until after 3 am...
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 12:55
Who is Mistico?
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 13:00
Mistico = Mysterio 2K7
He had a good tryout but is having problems with being allowed to work in the US (whether its his Visa or the Mexican promotion doesn't want to let him go etc)
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Tree
ID: 23191510 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 13:59
mistico tribute video - complete with crappy music...
Seeing as they announced during our draft that Ashley is out with surgery scheduled on her ankle, when can I drop her and sign a new worker. As soon as the last pick is made?
Z
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 20:39
Yes Zyre. The new waiver priority list is in the first post of this seasons waiver/transactions thread. I'd personally wait a bit for everyone to post their rosters too, but I don't think it really matters all that much, it would just look a little cleaner.
So on a side note - if you have finished your draft - please post your completed roster in the Waivers/Transactions thread (and a new team name if ya got one of course!)
And as was confirmed earlier by unanimous vote, Tree is not allowed to use "No Remorse Corps" no matter what he says. Thanks to Khali/Batista, his team has officially been christened the KOW........ aka "Kings of Workrate"
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 21:39
That all-important category......that's why I took Candice with my last pick. She's a real juggernaut.
Mike D, go ahead and send me the scoring spreadsheet whenever you have it done so I can get myself warmed up to make my triumphant return to Raw scoring.
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Apr 15, 2007, 22:58
Sent it a half hour ago to the yahoo address. All I have now is the one sheet with the columns for the shows. It saves me a lot of time.........especially with overlapping appearances on each show, guys switching, etc..
You can slice it up into shows if you want. Or just use the one sheet, and post it as is but change the columns where the shows are to 1 show name. Whatever. And you can cut out the non-scorers before posting too if you like (or not). The shows toward the end of last season will give you different looks (thanks GO and Species).
Zyre with his mottos for his wrestlers. Mickie - "Screw loose and fancy free"
based on the very very very NSFW photo spread she did prior to the WWE, i think, "Screws, Loose, and Fancies Feet" is more appropriate...
She is a keeper after all!!!
Z
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 12:18
Inquiring (and sick) minds want to know Tree.....got a link to that photo spread?
I hope I correctly took from your queue, Zyre. FYI - waivers are now open since the draft is done if you wish to put in a claim.
Notes on waivers (and no insult intended if you already knew):
- Claims are "open" - meaning you claim in the thread and others can 'trump' you (we have debated a blind system of some kind but have never been able to figure one out) - Claims take 24 hours. So if you claim someone at 12:00pm ET today it will become official at 12:00pm ET tomorrow. - If someone trumps your claim, their own 24-hour clock starts. - You are allowed one successful waiver claim per week. This is to help our poor, overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated Standings Master from onerous roster swapping. We call it "The Great One Doctrine". - Upon a successful waiver claim, you are to post your claim, your new roster in it's entirety, and the new waiver priority.
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 12:26
Hey, I have revolutionized the game! Like the widening of the lane in hoops... you gotta adjust for my dominance.
That being said, I already have 4 guys ready for dropping, so this should be a busy season of speculative add/drops!
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Tree
ID: 29082512 Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 12:43
got a link to that photo spread?
well, i'm at work, so i'm not gonna search for it. but i'd imagine if you google her with the safe filter off, you'll find it. throw in the word "nude" after her name, and it might narrow it down a bit more.
or, try "alexis laree", which was her early-career wrestling name, including when she was in Ring of Honor...
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Greg Rude
ID: 0311223 Mon, Apr 16, 2007, 12:59
Notes on waivers (and no insult intended if you already knew)
Species, what are you trying to say ... that i'm f'n stupid??
Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 11:33
Hey boys.....a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do. I don't mind.
You know what's bugged me for years now - the "No Holds Barred" match. These days it's merely a "no DQ" match - but long gone are the days when a great angle/buildup could be centered around a particular wrestler's hold. The heel somehow gets the face's hold barred from use...until the feud is blown off with a 'No Holds Barred' match where that wrestler can finally use it....
I'd love to see MVP bring out some fake Doctor, with a chalk board, charts, whatever, claiming that the Crippler Crossface is an illegal choke/whatever. T. Long agrees and declares it illegal, and a long buildup is given to their feud....give MVP a DQ win when Benoit slaps on the Crossface, etc.....all culminating at a PPV "No Holds Barred" where of course MVP taps out to the Crossface now that Benoit can 'finally' use it.
I know some angle from my childhood/teenagedom went down like that. Bob Backlund's chicken-wing crossface?!? Maybe even AWA (was that Vern Gagne's promotion?)?
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 11:52
I would approve of such a fued for my man MVP.
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Tue, Apr 17, 2007, 11:54
Also, thanks Species for giving me the "curse of the #1 waiver priority"
Somebody better debut soon!
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 11:39
I'm curious about other teams' thoughts on the tri-brand PPV structure as it pertains to our league.
Does anyone else wonder if the "power" of our league will shift more to those with more "Main Eventers" vs. those with a more balanced set of scorers from 1 through 6? Let's face it, those PPV points add up....and if you have a top tier main eventer like Cena, Lashley, etc - who quite likely are going to have a part in EVERY PPV - that's going to be huge.
Giving some of the rosters a quick review:
Rude has a pretty sweet stable of midcarders who should all score pretty consistently (Flair, Snitsky, Chavo, Striker or Cade) along with Finlay in the upper mid-card and Booker as a main eventer when he's healthy. But as of now Finlay doesn't have a Backlash match and if every PPV is tri-branded, you wonder if he actually loses PPV appearances compared to the old branded PPV structure.
Mike D has the hurt HHH who would undoubtedly be on every PPV, along with Mr. MITB who again will likely be on every PPV.
wiggs might parlay his stashing of Mysterio into a title run this year with likely PPV participants RVD (assuming WWE keeps him, and keeps him happy), Benoit, HBK and Mysterio. That along with tag champ Domino and solid midcarder Helms with Eugene on the bench makes him an early favorite.
Zyre has PPV stalwart The Undertaker but after that has some question marks. Mickie should always be sniffing a title run (and by the looks of those pictures.......but I digress), and Henry is capable of some PPV angles.
Great One has Edge in every angle and CM Punk who likely is to be a part of most PPV's. MVP and Carlito are on that next upper midcard tier, although Carlito's backstage heat could get in the way. Throw in both McMahon's and you've got a stacked Backlash lineup for an early push in the standings.
GoatLocker has actually pushed that team into respectability pretty quick. Lashley will be on every PPV, he has a tag champ in Deuce and some stable midcarders in Dreamer and Sandman who should be around on TV (at least) with this Originals vs. New Breed ongoing storyline. He's lacking in "PPV Power" outside of Lashley but he certainly won't be last this year, IMO.
Farn had an excellent draft, getting Cena at #2 overall, Kane with my 1st rounder and even getting Women's Champ Melina in round 2! Cena will be on every PPV and Kane will be in his share, as will Melina. London just lost the tag belts so you have to hope they don't fade into oblivion....and Yang should be in the Cruiser picture.
Tree is short on headliners after Batista, although he has a decent 1-6 with Doane, Spanky, Khali, and guys like Miz/Foley/Daivari.
Bobo inherited a pretty nice squad and was able to nab Nitro in Round 1. Hopefully he gets the upper mid card push he deserves. Jeff Hardy will get his share of PPV's as the Hardys are over like crazy. Add the New Breed guys Burke (I'm liking him more and more) and Thorn and he has a deep squad, filling in with Super Crazy and Estrada while awaiting Harry Smith or Colt Cabana's debut.
My team? With no 1st round pick I have to rely upon my strong keepers. Orton is a fringe player on the main event scene but should have his share of PPV's. Umaga is the same way - top of the mid card or a fringe player on the main event, so again I'm hoping for 75% PPV participation. Matt Hardy is over huge with the Hardys reunion and I think it is fair to say they have injected some life into a listless tag division. They have proved their mettle in huge matches and I have to assume they will be rewarded. Marcus Cor Von should continue to be a fringe ECW main eventer/high midcarder and be on TV every week, but not on enough PPV's, IMO. From there I have to get lucky with The Boogeyman or Santino Marella to try to eek out some points. Maria is there for hotness and comedy relief, although she has spiritedly worked to improve her ring skills to be in those various diva tag matches or be a squash opponent for Victoria/Melina.
Early on I have to tab wiggs as the favorite, with GO and I looking to get lucky and nab a solid scorer in the 5/6 spots. If a Bobo midcarder gets a big push he will contend, as could Rude if he gets lucky with one of his midcarders. Should be a fun and interesting year!