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Subject: Rules Update - Vote
Posted by: Great One
- Sustainer [053272014] Fri, Oct 05, 2007, 12:36
We never made an official ruling on this - but with the final roster freeze this weekend, should we not allow any add/drops after the final freeze?
Its not like its for the current season and you can't put them in your active lineup anyhow.
I would also be cool with waiving the 1 claim per week limit before this final freeze so everyone can make adjustments etc before the season is over.
Also - I mentioned this in the spring, but starting next season I would like to propose the seasons END with the PPV taping (and not the subsequent RAW, ECW and SD tapings afterwards. I want the final show to have a "Super Bowl" type feel to it where everyone culminates with No Mercy this season and Wrestlemania in the spring. This also gives the scorers a solid 2 week break (unless we would just bump up "Opening Day" on the other side, which means the break is missing 1 RAW, SD, ECW and starting the following Monday).
Please chime in on the above issues.
1)
A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
B - Allow waiver claims until the next season starts, keepers are declared.
2)
A - Waive 1 claim limit for the final week
B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3)
A - End season with a "grand finale" of sorts by ending with PPV taping (Wrestlemania or No Mercy)
B - End season with all tapings for that week (PPV, RAW, SD, ECW)
4)If #3 passes
A - have a nearly 2 week break
B - skip 1 episode RAW, SD, ECW and start following Monday (8 days after culminating PPV) |
| 1 | Greg Rude
ID: 338281513
Fri, Oct 05, 2007, 18:16
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Votes from Camp Rude:
1 - A, no more waiver claims after freeze.
2 - B, do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week. (I like the draft to be as exciting as possible)
3 - A, end season on PPV.
4 - B, only 1 week break ... that alone kills me! :)
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| 2 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 23:40
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#3 really can't work for logistical reasons. Our weeks run from Sun-Saturday. So you can't count the season ending PPV but not the subsequent tv shows.
1)
B - Allow waiver claims until the next season starts, keepers are declared.
2)
B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3)
B - End season with all tapings for that week (PPV, RAW, SD, ECW)
4)If #3 passes
B - skip 1 episode RAW, SD, ECW and start following Monday (8 days after culminating PPV)
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| 3 | Tree
ID: 093984
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 06:47
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1)
A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
B - Allow waiver claims until the next season starts, keepers are declared.
want to see more discussion on this re pros and cons before voting.
2)
A - Waive 1 claim limit for the final week
B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
man, i don't even remember us talking about a 1 claim limit to begin with. lol. why did we put that rule in place again? (where the hell have i been this season?!!??!)
3)
A - End season with a "grand finale" of sorts by ending with PPV taping (Wrestlemania or No Mercy)
B - End season with all tapings for that week (PPV, RAW, SD, ECW)
B - i've always felt that because of the nature of the WWE - where they don't always wrap up loose ends on a PPV like they oughta - that we need to do this. that's why when we did the original scheduling, we did this.
on an unrelated note, good to see you on Saturday Ryan, albeit briefly. on a wrestling note, you got to watch an awesome Aries-Strong match, a fantastic street fight between Jay Briscoe and Necro Butcher, and of coure, a World Title change.
i hope you guys weren't standing the whole night. if you were, you shoulda called me. i woulda taken care of you and made sure you had some solid seats...
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| 4 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 09:03
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#3 really can't work for logistical reasons. Our weeks run from Sun-Saturday. So you can't count the season ending PPV but not the subsequent tv shows.
Why? why can't the PPV be the only thing that week? There is nothing stopping that from happening except us.
B - i've always felt that because of the nature of the WWE - where they don't always wrap up loose ends on a PPV like they oughta - that we need to do this. that's why when we did the original scheduling, we did this.
They wrap up 80% of things at least, unless they plan a rematch for the next PPV anyway - and the next night usually starts all the other new fueds. I'd rather have the big culmination of everything be our "grand finale" then the next night where they start random new fueds. It ends things with such an underwhelming feeling with a random SD taping. It feels like its just arbitrarily tacked on for no reason.
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| 5 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 10:19
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Thanks Tree - it was a good show, did have seats, just wanted to beat the crowd out of there cause that venue sucks for getting out of there.
I think Aries vs. Strong will be pretty amazing on that PPV. I had my view blocked for a lot of it by the damn ringside photographers (too damn many! :)
Got Driven last night and made a few new fans. They were amazed at what is going on in ROH. Also, did you realize that half of the current WWE champs are ROH alumni? (Punk, Hardy x2, MVP etc and London/Kendrick and Noble the past year).
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| 6 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 10:40
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1-A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
2-B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3-B - End season with all tapings for that week (PPV, RAW, SD, ECW)
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| 7 | wiggs
ID: 2542623
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 12:48
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1)
A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
2) B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3) A - End season with a "grand finale" of sorts by ending with PPV taping (Wrestlemania or No Mercy)
4) B - skip 1 episode RAW, SD, ECW and start following Monday (8 days after culminating PPV)
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| 8 | Bobo
ID: 477252810
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 16:07
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Bobo's Votes...
1)
A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
2)
B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3)
B - End season with all tapings for that week (PPV, RAW, SD, ECW)
4)If #3 passes
B - skip 1 episode RAW, SD, ECW and start following Monday (8 days after culminating PPV)
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| 9 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 12:52
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Emailed a couple people about this potential leading scorer tie.
General consensus is that for this scenario we would do a simple coin-flip because anything we vote on would be biased (consciously or not) by those involved.
For FUTURE seasons... the idea was for the new tiebreaker to be whoever scored more the previous season. The idea being that this person has showed a more consistent ability to be a top level scorer over the past calendar year and should be the one thrown back into the pool.
Anyone has a major issue with these thoughts.. let us know. The chances are minimal that any of this could happen, but its good to have it planned out in case.
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| 10 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 13:01
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My votes were
1 - no waiver claims after last deadline
2 - waive 1 transaction limit
3 - End on PPV
4 - End PPV on Sunday start season 8 days later
Summary of votes above - I guess 6 needed to pass.
1 - 5 for no more claims after last freeze, 1 against
2 - 5 for keeping 1 transaction limit, 1 against
3 - 3 End on PPV, 3 End with all tapings
4 - (if 3 passes) 5 for starting 8 days later, 1 for our current nearly 2 week break
Missing votes from Mike D, Tree, Zyre and Species
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| 11 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 13:16
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1 - A
2 - B
3 - B
4 - B
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| 12 | Zyre
ID: 7923819
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 17:58
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1)
B - Allow waiver claims until the next season starts, keepers are declared.
2)
B - Do not waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3)
A - End season with a "grand finale" of sorts by ending with PPV taping (Wrestlemania or No Mercy)
4)If #3 passes
B - skip 1 episode RAW, SD, ECW and start following Monday (8 days after culminating PPV)
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| 13 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 21:58
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1)
A - No more waiver claims after the final roster freeze (basically you'd need 24 hours prior to that deadline for it to clear).
2)
A - Waive 1 claim limit for the final week
3)
A - End season with a "grand finale" of sorts by ending with PPV taping (Wrestlemania or No Mercy)
4)If #3 passes
A - have a nearly 2 week break
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| 14 | Tree
ID: 52926104
Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 06:33
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Great One lobbied me to change my vote on #3. his argument made sense. i'm strongly considering doing so, but i would be more satisfied if the "grand finale" was done as a probationary sort of thing for one year (two seasons), so i can revisit my opinions later. :o)
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| 15 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 09:11
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I think any rule we make is always under consideration to be revamped if its just not working. So I think its fair enough to look at it this time next year and analyze whether we like how its going.
I think when you see how fun it will be to kind of give us a "Super Bowl" there will be no heading back! Everything will build to the final PPV of the season. Currently our ending of kind of blah... (reading Smackdown spoilers?! what fun is that?!) I want to go into the PPV down by 50 points and pull it out with a few great matches.
Then we can take a few days, look at all the new storylines, make appropriate keeper decisions and draft picks and get rolling on the new season.
And illustrating my point, we are 3 for 3 on new things happening on the post PPV shows - HBK returns on RAW and starts a new main event fued, Johnny returns on ECW and it looks like Big Daddy V is heading to Smackdown.
To me - this is a new chapter so to speak. I just like the idea of ending at the completion of a chapter, instead of reading a couple more pages of the new one before taking a break....
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| 16 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 09:28
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1 - No waiver claims after the final roster freeze of the season. All claims will need to be at least submitted 24 hours before the last deadline in order to clear and be posted.
When discussing this rule with a couple people, we realized something would need to be tweaked a bit. This could be tricky for the very last deadline cause if you posted a claim and then someone trumped you less than 24 hours before the deadline - you'd be screwed.
SO... I had the idea that the Sunday before the that final PPV - that we have a league-wide waiver processing time of 4 PM. Any pending claims would be pushed through and then if you had a claim you would have a few hours to get that person into your starting lineup (if you wanted that person to start).
For example - there is a "legends battle royale" at the PPV. You put a claim in for Honky Tonk Man on Saturday but you don't get trumped til 3 PM Sunday. Normally, you'd be screwed cause there isn't another 24 hr window for your claim to clear in time. You check back in before 4, put in another claim for Koko B. Ware and if nobody trumps it by 4 PM - then he's all yours.
This would only be for the final deadline of the season of course.
Thoughts?
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