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Subject: Week 4 - Smackdown points
Posted by: mIST
- [21113162] Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 03:24
NOTE 1: on the O'Haire-Kendrick segment some other wrestlers are shown but I can't find them in the recaps. If any of you has watched SD, please tell me who they are.
NOTE 2: The Edge-Lesnar-Team Angle final run in gives 5 points to ALL the ones involved, it's a segment outside the match.
Tazz: 2
Rey Mysterio: 30
Jamie Noble: -5
Nidia: 5
The Rock: 5 + 5 (he's via satellite but they are *in-ring* promos) = 10
Rikishi: 30 + 5 = 35
Nunzio: -5 + 5 = 0
Paul Heyman: 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 20
Undertaker 5
Hulk Hogan: 2 + 5 = 7
Brock Lesnar: 2 + 5 = 7
Shannon Moore: 5 - 5 = 0
Matt Hardy V1: 5 - 5 = 0
Billy Kidman: 30
Kurt Angle: 2 + 2 + 30 + 10 + 5 = 49
Charlie Haas: 2 + 25 + 25 + 5 = 59
Shelton Benjamin: 2 + 25 + 25 + 5 = 59
Eddie Guerrero: -4
Chavo Guerrero: -4
Sean O'Haire: 2
Brian Kendrick: 2 + 5 + 2(the "Nike spot" counts as one segment, but the meeting with Steph gives him 2) = 9
Stephanie McMahon: 2
A-Train: 30
John Cena: 5
Chris Benoit: 2 - 5 + 10 + 5 = 12
Edge: 5 |
| 1 | mIST
ID: 21113162
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 06:23
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Update: I've read that Rikishi, Funaki and Mysterio were shown backstage. 2 points for all of them. Anyone else?
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| 2 | Tree
ID: 22052618
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 07:32
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just an FYI - i know there tends to be some debating about points - because of that, i've decided to post standings once a week - since we can't make roster moves anyway.
i'm looking at having them up by 12 noon on saturday to give us about 12 hours to look things over before rosters are due.
i'd put them up earlier, but the haggling over points (and by all means, i think we need that haggling!) makes it crazy if i have to go back and change it, so i just wanna give everyone some time to haggle, and find more ways to push me closer to next season's number one draft pick.
peace,
Tree
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| 3 | kev
ID: 3155515
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 09:27
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Considering the fights with Cena, and now that they are facing team Angle, can we finally give Chavo and Eddie "turn" points. When they were drafted, they were heels, now, they are faces....or at least lets take it to a vote. I think it's obvious.
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| 4 | mIST
ID: 21113162
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 09:49
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I disagree, they never "officially" turned.
Just llok at Kurt Angle after his match with Big Show...he seemed to have turned, instead we all know where it all ended.
One who REALLY turned is Chris Benoit, but I disagree the same on giving points because it was gradual.
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| 5 | wiggs@work
Donor
ID: 447432423
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 09:51
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I agree with mIST, i dont see the guerro turn not yet atleast.
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| 6 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 09:56
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Agree. Heels can face each other.
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| 7 | kev
ID: 3155515
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 10:15
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But a turn doesnt have to be written. Rocky's turn wasn't even written. Rocky's turn happened at Wrestlemania, because the fans starting cheering for Hogan, and against the Rock.
Eddie and Chavo were getting heat, now they are getting cheers. To me, that is a turn. It doesn't have to be written in.
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| 8 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 10:19
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I disagree. Rock's turn happened more recently, probably at the Raw Anniv. Show or maybe in one of the "via satellite" appearances since. He hadn't turned by the end of Wrestlemania, and was still a face when he lost his title to Brock.
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| 9 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 331038201
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 16:44
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A "turn" is a concrete moment. Even if the Guerreros start teaming with Edge against Heyman and Triple H and Bill Demott (obviously bad guys), they don't get points unless they turn at an actual moment. I'd actually give Jeff Hardy points, but not the Guerreros.
Also, Rikishi, Funaki, and Mysterio... how did they appear? Did it just pan past them? Do we give points for that?
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| 10 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 10261612
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 16:46
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BH, they gave points to nunzio for showing him shake hands with mcmahon, it was a 2 second clip
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| 11 | Tree
ID: 22052618
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 18:15
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i don't believe a turn is a concrete moment. there are plenty of subtle turns, as we've seen...
peace,
Tree
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| 12 | Tree
ID: 22052618
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 23:07
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guys - i'll have the spreadsheets up tomorrow. for a snow day, today sure was busy for me!
peace,
Tree
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| 13 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 331038201
Fri, Feb 07, 2003, 23:29
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Tree... I'd like to see what the average score per team per week is (excluding week 2 which is skewed). For example, I scored 75 some week. Is that good?
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| 14 | Tree
ID: 22052618
Sat, Feb 08, 2003, 07:23
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yea, i think i can manage that...lemme see what i can do...
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| 15 | Tree
ID: 22052618
Sat, Feb 08, 2003, 07:35
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hmmm...week 2 was the ppv - so, maybe we're looking for an Avg total INCLUDING PPV weeks, and an AVG total excluding PPV weeks? or has the new scoring system balanced all that? help, i'm lost! LOL
peace,
Tree
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