Posted by: Great One
- [574139] Thu, Jan 05, 2012, 09:27
Alright folks... Farn and I both have had crashing computers the last month so this has made it difficult. If anyone has time or ability to score the Dec. RAW's/SD's (even just from spoilers) that would be helpful otherwise I think the Sprint has died. RWF Season 18 Regular Season Re-boot. We're going with 3 roughly 4 month seasons. People can start trading if they would like to. There will be 3 keepers, still lose top scorer. Help There will be a 5 point bonus for specialty matches i.e. cage... can someone work on a list of all these types of matches so we can add to the scoring thread? Rude? During the draft there will be an extra round to account for a prospect who can be chosen at any time. Details below. Trading - no more trading 1st/2nd to same manager one season, no more trading 1st's in back to back seasons, no more trading beyond upcoming season
OPEN ITEMS 1 - Please state your intention to return. 2 - Based on how many return, we are going to go with half the league in a lottery fight for the most ping pong balls, and the other half fighting for a championship. We'll draw the line after a mid-season PPV. 3. Vote When the lines are drawn here, I think we definitely reset the bottom 5 and let them fight it out - most points from then til the end gets the most ping pong balls. But do we also reset the top 5 fighting for the RWF Title? Maybe stagger it like NASCAR does during "The Chase" where its reset but first starts with 250, second has 200, third has 150, fourth has 100, 5th has 50... so you are do get some reward for a good regular season at least with a headstart, but if 5th was 700 points behind, he at least has a chance. Prospect Prospect are considered any wrestler with less than 100 points previous season. Defined in a "prospect list" posted at the beginning of the season in the Transactions thread. You will make a prospect pick at any point during the draft (an extra round will be added). You can then call them up to your regular roster (without using waiver priority) at any point you see fit to do so. Once that prospect reaches 100 active points you'll need to add them to your roster for the following week or lose rights to them. If they stay below the 100 point threshold you can maintain their rights over the off season and that player will just become your lowest draft pick in the subsequent draft.
Farn has a pending draft pick chart... but won't be home all day. Here is the transaction thread if you wanted to work on trades and try to piece together your own picks for now. S17 Transactions Thread
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Greg Rude
ID: 29031414 Thu, Jan 05, 2012, 15:46
I won the Salary Sprint thing, right?
1. Rude is in *Does Rude Dance* 2. Ok, sounds good Mean Gene. 3. Sounds like it was previously decided, but I would say no resetting in either top 5 or bottom 5. Reason why I say about bottom 5 is because if you worked hard to make the "playoffs" but fell short to 6th place and had to goto the loser's bracket ... should you be punished for that? Or have the edge for the most ping pong balls?
On the Specialty Matches set, I'll come up with a list that can be tweaked/adjusted this weekend.
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Great One
ID: 574139 Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 09:50
Farn
chunk bar
Nailer
Wiggs
Great One
Tree
Rude
Zyre
RJ
Bobo
RJ 5th
chunk bar 1st
Nailer 1st
Wiggs 1st
Wiggs 4th
Tree 1st
Nailer 4th
Nailer 3rd
RJ 1st
Bobo 1st
Farn's 2nd
chunk bar 2nd
Nailer 2nd
Wiggs 2nd
Wiggs 5th
Tree 2nd
Nailer 5th
Zyre 2nd
RJ 2nd
Bobo 2nd
Farn's 3rd
chunk bar 3rd
Zyre 1st
Wiggs 3rd
Great One 3rd
Tree 3rd
Rude 3rd
Zyre 3rd
RJ 3rd
Bobo 3rd
Farn's 4th
chunk bar 4th
Rude 1st
Great One 1st
Great One 4th
Tree 4th
Rude 4th
Zyre 4th
RJ 4th
Bobo 4th
Farn's 5th
chunk bar 5th
Rude 2nd
Great One 2nd
Great One 5th
Tree 5th
Rude 5th
Zyre 5th
Farn 1st
Bobo 5th
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RJ
ID: 25032616 Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 17:32
Count me in Ditto I'll play based on whatever the league decides but personally prefer a 6 team playoff system with byes for 1 and 2 seed. This would take place after the 4 month "regular season". Also would suggest a consolation tournament for the number 1 pick. Something simple like 7 vs 10 and 8 vs 9.
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Farn @ work Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Jan 10, 2012, 10:33
Well it looks like Rude and RJ are in. Plus GO and I.
Maybe this league has finally run its course? Started 8 (calendar) years ago in January of 2003. Maybe its finally faded?
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Great One
ID: 574139 Tue, Jan 10, 2012, 12:20
Wiggs is in, and I'm sure Tree but he's travelling. Thats 6... i think we need to get to 8 to do this. So 2 of Nailer, Zyre, chunk and Bobo.
I also think like RJ's idea of head to head playoffs, but I think that got shot down last round of voting.
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wiggs
ID: 497411815 Wed, Jan 11, 2012, 11:24
I am definately in. I also have a work friend interested. I recently introduced him to rotoguru. He is lurking
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Greg Rude
ID: 29031414 Wed, Jan 11, 2012, 15:14
I can get Zyre and Nailer to chime in ... I think people just got out of habit at looking at this since nothing was happening for like 2 months.
I like the idea of the head to head playoffs better than anything derived from Nascar. I think the lottery will help somewhat discourage people from tanking just to get the top pick.
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Nailer
ID: 47741321 Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 22:41
I'm in. Fire it up.
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Great One
ID: 574139 Fri, Jan 13, 2012, 10:48
Well that makes 8... so thats enough to start it up. Maybe we shoot to draft Wednesday Jan 18th around noon? Until then we have a week to confirm with chunk and Bobo and offer Wiggs' friend a spot there if they don't chime in.
We can hash out the playoff scenario as it approaches - head to head or just points from that point on. Either way I think we reset the points when things get divided into RWF Super Bowl and Toilet Bowl top pick battle.
If it is head to head w/ seedings I would suggest 3-4 week head to head matchup so its not all in one lucky week.
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RJ
ID: 25032616 Fri, Jan 13, 2012, 11:10
4 wks seems a bit long for the Playoff matchups,I would be fine with 3 though.
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RJ
ID: 25032616 Sun, Jan 15, 2012, 13:48
Is there any chance we could get 2 more teams?
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Greg Rude
ID: 29031414 Sun, Jan 15, 2012, 14:32
I think the head to head might be tough, especially if you see your guys one week ... generally you don't see them the next week. I'm down for whatever though.
This will need to be discussed and tweaked but for specialty matches they should be:
Contract/#1 Contenders Match/MiTB Cage/Hell in a Cell Ladder/Table Street Fight/Falls Count Anywhere Ironman Match/2 out of 3 Falls/Last Man Standing Battle Royal
(Borderline/Questionable:) Standard No DQ? Gauntlet? (I believe there's already enough bonus points built in the scoring)
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RJ
ID: 25032616 Mon, Jan 16, 2012, 21:24
Keeper designations? Just wondering when we should submit our keepers to GO??
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Great One
ID: 574139 Tue, Jan 17, 2012, 08:51
I think we could reasonably start this season with the Royal Rumble, so if thats the case we'd be drafting by next Wednesday 1/25/12 mid-day. In the future we'd start 1st of the year of course, but this season can be a lockout style shortened year. I'll try and work on proposed schedules this week. I expect to have some extra free time later this week.
Rude, I like the list and I'd leave off the bottom questionable ones.
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Great One
ID: 574139 Tue, Jan 17, 2012, 08:52
And I'd say we go til this Friday to finalize the 9th and 10th teams between Bobo, chunk and Wiggs friend... if we can't find 2, we chop it to 8.
And if anyone is all ready to go with keepers, I will start collecting them.
I've also got either Wade Barrett or R-Truth on the trading block for a draft pick or 2-1 upgrade.
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Great One
ID: 23041321 Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 21:15
Need to figure something out this week... so we have the new rule where no trading #1 picks back to back seasons... will that include any trade made in the next week? so not be able to trade a first rounder in the upcoming season then?.
I'm thinking no cause these changes are all part of a reworking for next season and beyond, but just wanted to get some other opinions.
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Great One
ID: 23041321 Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 21:16
anyone know how to get a hold of chunk? Wiggs - you ask your buddy from work about a spot yet? we're going first come first serve here, whoever speaks up first is getting one of these 2 teams.
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wiggs Leader
ID: 04991311 Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 21:30
My friend actually decided to pass on playing for now- he said he has too much going on. Sorry
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Nailer
ID: 47741321 Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 22:25
Asking Chunk...
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Greg Rude
ID: 29031414 Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 22:30
GO #Post20 ... I think this rule was created to prevent a manager from constantly trading their ONE PERSONAL #1 draft pick constantly each season making their team worse. I don't think just because you acquire multiple picks, and want to deal one out that the penalty should apply to you. Definitely not if you are trading someone else's #1. It should be personal #1's only, and even then it should be more defined if you have multiple #1's.
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Thu, Jan 19, 2012, 08:46
I agree Rude, also think we can't enforce til next year even if they traded their own #1 this past season cause nobody knew the rule existed yet.
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Thu, Jan 19, 2012, 08:55
Spoke with Bobo, and he's not going to have time to continue. So I'm beginning to think we are going with 8 teams. Even if chunk committed again we'd probably want another to have an even 10? Although I guess it really doesn't matter to have an odd number.
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Nailer
ID: 47741321 Thu, Jan 19, 2012, 22:53
Chunk has no PC. He's out.
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Greg Rude
ID: 29031414 Fri, Jan 20, 2012, 03:48
With us going to 3 keepers, I think less teams would probably be for the best. 8 sounds good. Top 4 and Bottom 4 for playoffs/lottery.
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Great One
ID: 28051912 Fri, Jan 20, 2012, 09:02
I agree. Final Four and Fatal Four for the lottery balls.... I will work on the proposed schedule.
Also, Bobo and chunk didn't have any traded picks so thats makes things easier too.
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Nailer
ID: 4810572113 Fri, Jan 20, 2012, 11:28
Pre-draft note: --I'm losing Henry as my top scorer. --My Rude 1st round and Tyson Kidd going to GO for R-Truth and his Wiggs 4th round.
GREAT ONE DRAFT: Rude 1st Wiggs 5th Great One 3rd Great One 4th Great One 5th
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Great One
ID: 28051912 Fri, Jan 20, 2012, 11:31
Trade confirmed.
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Great One
ID: 28051912 Fri, Jan 20, 2012, 11:44
FYI - I've got keepers from Rude, RJ, Nailer and myself. Will need Zyre, Farn, Wiggs, Tree.
We are still shooting for next Wednesday 1/25 by noon for keeper deadline if you want one last spoiler to read...
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 14:51
I've got all keepers except for Tree who wrote to tell me he'll have something in the near future he just needs to steal a few minutes to look at this team and is also shopping for a 3rd keeper so everyone please be on the lookout for emails from him tonight perhaps so we don't hold anything up.
Farn if I send you a pick chart can you make one of those beautiful draft grids?
I've got the schedule more or less scripted out.
Also one thing to remember this year we'll have a 6th Round to add to the chart (and frankly to trade right now if you want) - the extra spot for our "Prospect Pick" chosen at any point during the draft, who scored less than 100 points previous season and will be on your "bench" until callup time or you carry them over to next year (still under 100 points of course).
sheesh. i haven't been paying attention and didn't know we were at this point.
anyone who has any extra scorers they want to part with, and what they're looking for in return, please email me ASAP?
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Farn on phone Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 20:31
I can make the chart.
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wiggs Leader
ID: 04991311 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 21:49
wait- I am a little confused about this- Can one of our keepers be the prospect if they are under 100 points? Also what happens with the draft picks when we add an extra round? For example, I traded my "last 2 picks" at the time they were the 4th and 5th rounders, do they turn to the 5th and 6th rounders now?
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Great One
ID: 36214199 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 22:45
The prospect will need to be picked and declared a prospect during the draft during any round and he is your prospect til he hits 100. If he never does you can keep in subsequent offseasons and just forfeit your worst pick at draft time.
I didnt really think about the extra round til today. I dont know which way to go with that. I would say for simplicity leave the chart as it is and just tack on a 6th pick for everyone. I dont know. Thoughts?
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Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 22:50
If the trade verbiage specifically says "worst 2 picks" or "last 2 picks", then it should shift to 5 and 6. If it says "4th and 5th" then it stays.
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wiggs Leader
ID: 04991311 Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 23:13
I think it says 4 and 5th- but seems weird to do that since 5 and 6th were not options.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 01:09
provided this 6th pick can be traded, Wiggs and i are working out a deal. i'll mail GO my tentative keepers based on that being ok.
if so, Wiggs, post the deal, and i'll confirm?
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wiggs
ID: 497411815 Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 08:27
Trade
Tree gets dibease and my 6
I get his 3rd
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 09:11
Thats fine with me, its not worth trying to figure out if somebody had a 5th or 6th. Its all a crapshoot after the 3rd or so anyway.
Tree sent me keepers and I will update pick chart adding an extra round, switch the picks to reflect that last trade and send it to Farn after I compute the order.
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 09:32
Ok, I sent Farn the picks and the order. I'll post here so people can start planning. The pick chart above is accurate just without the extra 6th round tacked and the Wiggs/Tree deal.
Me keeping Y2J and his 0 helped whoever the heck has my 1st rounder move up a few spots. Your welcome!
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Great One
ID: 13046197 Wed, Jan 25, 2012, 10:37
When tweaking this schedule, since we got a month late start its gonna be hard to end on Wrestlemania. Here is what I would propose, let me know your thoughts... end the regular season on Wrestlemania, then do 2 Raws, 2 SDs for Round 1... 2 Raws, 2 SD's + Final PPV for the championship.
In the future I'd stretch this to 3 weeks per round instead of 2 but I think this should work. And Wrestlemania would still have major importance for teams fighting to get a playoff spot etc.
What do you think?
RWF Season 18 Schedule Week 1 - Royal Rumble PPV 1/29/12 (usually this will be Jan 1st) Week 2 – 2/6 Week 3 – 2/13 Week 4 – 2/19 (Elimination Chamber) Week 5 – 2/27 Week 6 – 3/5 Week 7 – 3/12 Week 8 – 3/19 Week 9 – 3/26 Week 10 – 4/1 (Wrestlemania XXVIII – End of Regular Season) Week 11 – 4/2 – Semi-Final Playoffs Week 12 – 4/9 – Semi-Final Playoffs Week 13 – 4/16 – Finals Week 14 – 4/23 - Finals Week 15 – 4/29 (RWF Super Bowl – End at Extreme Rules PPV)