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0 Subject: S24 RWF Discussion

Posted by: GO
- [01020815] Mon, Dec 16, 2013, 16:29

Pending issues... please vote and post keepers... we are going to draft New Years week after a winter break.

1. Is WWE.com our definitive ruling or do we stick with our own judgement?
2. Character -- do we give points to the character or the wrestler? Once confirmed we'll probably start switching Sin Cara's points to Hunico
3. Main Event Promo bonus or regular promo points.... when there is a huge group (i.e. roster on the ramp), does everyone get the bonus or promo points or only those that interact or are the focus.

4 - Playoff options for S24
A - Semi-Final 2 RAW/SD; 3 RAW/SD + PPV
B - Semi-Final 3 RAW/SD; 2 RAW/SD + PPV
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36GO
      ID: 59918108
      Thu, Jan 16, 2014, 10:20
So Farn = Dolph Ziggler? That means he was too much for Amy Schumer and AJ Lee
37Species
      ID: 57862918
      Thu, Jan 16, 2014, 11:00
Farn is more like Kevin Federline. Even he pinned Cena once.
38GO
      ID: 01020815
      Thu, Jan 16, 2014, 11:11
David Arquette!
39Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Jan 16, 2014, 12:27
Laugh now you washed up legends of the past. Farn has another title coming in the near future!
40Greg Rude
      ID: 3410262519
      Thu, Jan 16, 2014, 21:48
LOL'ing 31-39.
41Farn on phone
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Jan 29, 2014, 09:37
Great night for Farn at SD taping (Christian returns; is in Elimination Chamber).

Awful night for Tree (Punk apparently leaves WWE).

(Note: technically it's a bad night for all of us if Punk is gone. Now we get to watch HHH bury Daniel Bryan at WM.
42Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Wed, Jan 29, 2014, 18:06
it's a work, just like Bryan joining the Wyatts.

Punk is hotter than ever, and i am looking to move him while he's on top. :)
43Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Jan 29, 2014, 20:16
I'll give you a 3rd rounder :)
44GO
      ID: 01020815
      Wed, Feb 05, 2014, 13:07
ROH on WWE... wow...

CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Colt, Cesaro, Rollins, Evan Bourne... Punk w/ hair, Bryan without.

I want to create a PS3 Survivor Series match and do the 5 above and then create TNA guys AJ, Aries, Lethal, Davey Richards and Daniels.
45Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Feb 05, 2014, 13:35
On a different note...

The WWE Network is going to carry every past PPV, including the Owen Hart one. Apparently the Benoit matches will be there too.

ECW and WCW will also have past PPVs on there.
47GO
      ID: 11131520
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 20:54
We can start posting keepers here... people good with drafting Wednesday or want to take a week off? I know some people travel next week leading into Easter weekend so that may impact things. Anyone on the road next week?
48Greg Rude
      ID: 272352420
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 21:45
Rude Keepers:

Kofi Kingston
Naomi
Kane

Lose:
Ambrose
Rey
R Truth
Triple H
Undertaker

Let's get it going, if we don't finish - then postpone it.
49RJ
      ID: 33334615
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 22:20
Keep: Sheamus, Cody, AJ
50RJ
      ID: 33334615
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 22:21
Yeah I say we get it going asap
51Nailer
      Donor
      ID: 47741321
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 23:02
Nailer keepers:
Batista
Big E. Langston
Wyatt-Luke Harper

Lose:
Fandango
Jey Uso
Nikki Bella
Cameron
Darren Young
Hulk Hogan
52RJ
      ID: 2317722
      Mon, Apr 07, 2014, 23:17
Keep
Sheamus
Cody
AJ
Y2J (retain)

Lose
Reigns (so close!)
Billy Gunn
Brie
Natalya
Heyman
53GO
      ID: 292502110
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 14:11
Keep
Randy Orton (for sale for a 1st rounder)
Wade Barrett
Mark Henry
no prospect

Losers
Bray Wyatt
Damien Sandow
Sin Cara
Santino
Evan Bourne
AJ Styles (prospect)
54Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 14:37
Keep
Cena
Axel
Christian


Give up
Daniel Bryan
Brodus Clay
Layla
Tamina
Drew McIntyre
Rick Victor*
55Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 14:46
Ok, here's the list of numbers for the draft lottery. Full disclosure: GO had me pick his so don't shake your head at his odd choices.

A past RWF member will chime in at some point with random numbers to determine the first 3 choices.

Farn:
1-20, 43-62, 69-78, 91-100

GO:
21-42, 63-68, 79-80

Rude:
81-90
56GO
      ID: 292502110
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 14:49
The 2nd best looking member this league ever had.
57wiggs
      ID: 72522418
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 17:24
Keep
Adr
Uso
Ziggler
58wiggs
      ID: 72522418
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 17:27
If the dam tag title match was on the ppv I keep rollins instead of uso. So close
59GO
      ID: 11131520
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 20:56
Wow, that was close... and now the Uso's will probably disappear back into obscurity. That could have had you as a strong candidate to repeat which seems to be the new holy grail in this league... repeating seems about as likely as breaking The Streak!

Just to clarify -- I'm looking to trade Orton for a first and by that I mean in this current draft. So when your pick is up, if you would like Orton with the 4th pick or whatever it is, email me and I'll let you know if I'm interested in that spot. I think I'd do it for like 4 specific guys I want - I just don't particularly want Orton for a whole nother season.

Also would move Mark Henry for more like a late 1st-mid 2nd round type pick so check in on him if he interests you.
60 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Tue, Apr 08, 2014, 23:16
You're NXT!

Keepers
Alexander Rusev
Bo Dallas
Rob Van Dam
Adrian Neville (prospect)

Jobbers
Road Dogg Jesse James
Brock Lesnar
Big Show
Goldust
Sting
61Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 09:29
Keeper Change

Keep
Cena
Axel
Layla


Give up
Daniel Bryan
Brodus Clay
Christian
Tamina
Drew McIntyre
Rick Victor*
62GO
      ID: 292502110
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 11:21
please Vote...
If WWE Main Event goes to WWE Network only (as rumored) - do we continue to score it? YES/NO

If YES, do we fully score or continue with just match points?
I will not be able to watch it, so someone else would need to fully watch for scoring beyond match points.
63 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 11:31
please Vote...
If WWE Main Event goes to WWE Network only (as rumored) - do we continue to score it?

I vote YES and to continue with just match points
64Species
      ID: 417491123
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 11:44
Wow.....congrats wiggs on your 6th title. Huge.

Random numbers:

9,2,8, 27,3,17,7,28,68,75,95,98

Sorry GO -- if you tried to manipulate the order based upon my profinity for using famous player numbers, I shook it up and went with the birthdays of me, my better half and my step daughters. Ha!
65GO
      ID: 292502110
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 12:00
Nah, I let Farn pick his... pick mine from what was left and Rude got the last 10.

I thought the 9 was to honor Ted Williams - the best hitter ever to play on Boston or New York.

Looks like Farn is #1 (first 3 numbers).
I get the 2nd pick from the 27.
Rude goes 3rd.

Thanks Species! Keep making these appearances and you might get a RWF HOF induction.
66RJ
      ID: 2317722
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 12:37
Yes! Yes! Yes!

Continue to score WWE Main Event, just the matches. It makes more people relevant and gives teams more opportunity to score points.
67GO
      ID: 292502110
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 13:38
We are waiting on Tree... I'm gonna open the draft anyway -- as I don't think anyone is taking Xavier or Epico before Tree makes his first pick anyway. Or Punk potentially. If you want to, then just wait to make your pick til he posts it.
68Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 14:13
I'd suggest Species gets in the RWF HoF celebrity wing. He just wasn't a good enough manager to get in the regular wing.


I'd vote:
1. Yes
2. I'd switch it to full scoring. I don't mind doing it if that's the way we go.
69Greg Rude
      ID: 272352420
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 17:47
Are we voting on Species being in the RWF HoF or the NXT show scoring?

If it's about Species ... a big fat no.

For NXT:
1. Yes
2. Full Scoring
70Species
      ID: 271152305
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 17:59
Don't be all pissed off at me because I still have more titles than your sorry asses! Pretty sad that there's been like 10 seasons since I played and you still can't catch me.......pathetic, actually!
71Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Wed, Apr 09, 2014, 18:52
sorry everyone. really hard for me to post or be active during the day. i'm not at a desk,and i'm in my car quite a bit, so checking email and posts isn't feasible.

oh, and matador Fernando for my Challengers of the Unknown team
72Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 23:31
am i missing the post that lists total scoring for the season? or does that not exist any more? :)
73GO
      ID: 11131520
      Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 23:36
Its built into every scoring tab as YTD, but it doesn't have people who have finished as free agents. I can post that tomorrow, should have put with the final chart.
74GO
      ID: 292502110
      Fri, Apr 11, 2014, 11:25
3MB, Drew McIntyre 160
3MB, Heath Slater 121
3MB, Jinder Mahal 145
Adrian Neville 0
AJ Lee 398
Aksana 209
Alberto Del Rio 597
Alex Riley 10
Alexander Rusev 56
Alicia Fox 194
Batista 411
Bella, Brie 243
Bella, Nikki 323
Beth Phoenix 0
Big E. Langston 577
Big Show 397
Billy Gunn 367
Bo Dallas 0
Booker T 17
Brad Maddox 40
Brock Lesnar 137
Brodus Clay 37
Camacho 0
Cameron 299
Chris Jericho 0
Christian 373
CM Punk 195
Conor O'Brian 0
Corey Graves 0
Curt Hawkins 12
Curtis Axel 286
Damien Sandow 248
Daniel Bryan 844
Darren Young 180
David Otunga 28
Dolph Ziggler 436
Emma 132
Eva Marie 91
Evan Bourne 0
Ezekiel 0
Fandango 387
Great Khali 81
HBK 5
Hornswaggle 2
Hulk Hogan 51
Jerry Lawler 5
Jim Duggan 15
John Cena 424
John Laurinaitis 0
John Morrison 0
JoJo 0
Josh Matthews 0
JTG 0
Justin Gabriel 42
Kaitlyn 15
Kane 309
Kelly Kelly 0
Kevin Nash 21
Kofi Kingston 321
Lana 28
Layla 79
Leo Kruger 0
Mark Henry 189
Maryse 0
Mason Ryan 0
MATADOR, Diego P 250
MATADOR, Fernando E 275
MATADOR, Torito 104
Michael Cole 0
Michelle McCool 0
Mick Foley 0
Naomi 271
Natalya 199
Paige Turner 0
Paul Heyman 98
RA, Antonio Cesaro 598
RA, Jack Swagger 544
RA, Zeb Colter 132
Randy Orton 558
Rey Mysterio 298
Rhodes, Cody 462
Rhodes, Goldust 456
Ric Flair 23
Ricardo Rodriguez 0
Rick Victor 0
Road Dogg 369
Rob Van Dam 0
Rosa Mendes 37
R-Truth 176
Ryback 259
Sami Zayn 0
Santino Marella 103
Sheamus 654
Shelton Benjamin 0
SHIELD, Dean Ambrose 680
SHIELD, Roman Reigns 658
SHIELD, Seth Rollins 658
Sin Cara 245
Steamboat 0
Stephanie 99
Steve Austin 10
Summer Rae 201
Tamina 267
AJ Styles 0
Bill Goldberg 0
MATADOR, Torito 49
Sting 0
tbd 0
Teddy Long 0
Tensai 0
The Miz 222
The Rock 10
Titus O'Neil 263
Triple H 143
Trish Stratus 0
Tyson Kidd 33
Undertaker 60
Uso, Jey 596
Uso, Jimmy 610
Vickie Guerrero 46
Vince McMahon 0
Wade Barrett 72
William Regal 0
WYATT, Bray 570
WYATT, Harper 449
WYATT, Rowan 429
Xavier Woods 94
Yoshi Tatsu 22
Zack Ryder 57
75RJ
      ID: 253231017
      Fri, Apr 11, 2014, 17:31
Picking in a bit, sorry I would actually like all of ME scored, I didn't realize it was an option.
76wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 18:43
wow no picks for 12 hours, can we please just finish this thing?
77GO
      ID: 11131520
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 20:51
Tree -
Wiggs -
Farn - Yes, full scoring
GO - Yes, only match points
RJ - Yes, full scoring
Zyre - Yes, only match points
Rude - Yes, full scoring
Nailer -

So YES, we are still gonna score WWE Main Event -- we would need 2 more votes to switch to full scoring as opposed to just reading results and giving match points (including any related championship/title points).
78GO
      ID: 11131520
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 21:53
Something else to consider when we start opening up Main Event to regular scoring... this show does not deserve actual "main event" or curtain jerker type points. Half the time on this show the the best matches are first and the last ones are the throwaways... I don't want a Yoshi Tatsu 40 point singles win cause its the last match and getting the same as Orton on the Monday Night main event.
79RJ
      ID: 33334615
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 22:06
Seems fair enough the Shield/Wyatts shills have been the ME last week obviously and sometimes there are only two matches anyway.
80Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 22:07
That's a fair point. I'd say no jerker or main event points for that show until they prove they are taking the show as serious as the other 2.

I'm really ok without full scoring too. Just throwing the idea out there. Just thinking the show is getting better as a foundation piece of the Network so it may be worth scoring fully (to a slightly lesser degree).
81wiggs
      ID: 72522418
      Sat, Apr 12, 2014, 22:53
I would say score it but matches only but I really dont care if u want to score it like tbe other shows. Just more work for u guys
82Nailer
      Donor
      ID: 47741321
      Sun, Apr 13, 2014, 00:40
I vote YES and to continue with just match points.
83wiggs
      ID: 72522418
      Sun, Apr 13, 2014, 08:39
I would say score it but matches only but I really dont care if u want to score it like tbe other shows. Just more work for u guys
84wiggs
      ID: 72522418
      Sun, Apr 13, 2014, 13:28
I would say score it but matches only but I really dont care if u want to score it like tbe other shows. Just more work for u guys
85Greg Rude
      ID: 272352420
      Sun, Apr 13, 2014, 22:06
So are we or are we not scoring tomorrow night's RAW? I don't want to waste 3 hours if it's not important ... ha :)
86GO
      ID: 292502110
      Thu, Apr 17, 2014, 14:44
Main Event Voting Summary
Continue to score with move to WWE Network, continue to score match points only
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