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Posted by: RJ
- [43027297] Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 15:42

Top Scorer
Bayley

Keepers
Matt Hardy
Neville
Charlotte
Dillinger (retain)

Back to pool
The Miz, Big Show, Nikki Bella, Taker,
1RJ
      ID: 43027297
      Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 17:44
For Wiggs..

Keepers
Styles
Orton
Joe
2Nailer
      ID: 211124520
      Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 20:40
High Scorer: John Cena

Keepers:
Chris Jericho
ND, Big E
Naomi
Bobby Roode (prospect)

Throwbacks:
Brian Kendrick, Tyler Breeze, Jason Jordon, Jinder Mahal
3GO
      ID: 388562222
      Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 22:20
High Scorer - Cesaro
Keep - Finn Balor, Baron Corbin, Jeff Hardy, Shinsuke Nakamura (prospect)
Throwback - Ziggler, Kalisto, Apollo, Kane
4Farn
      ID: 5610422817
      Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 22:21
Keep:

Seth
Kofi
Gallows
Angle*
5Greg Rude
      ID: 501152922
      Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 23:49
High scorer: Reigns

Keepers: Sami/Enzo/Mojo

Not retaining prospect.
6GO
      ID: 388562222
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 00:11
RJ took 21-80 GO takes 1-20 and 91-100 Ace gets 81-90
7Perm Dude
      ID: 130432319
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 00:31
How's this:

82
35
65
4
56
69
74
14
70
8
8GO
      ID: 388562222
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 00:35
Great except GO kicked to #3! lol... Thanks PD!

Ace with a 10% chance is the first time the lowest chance wins the draft lottery. Congrats to him.
9Ace
      ID: 633555
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 06:36
Top Scorer: Becky

Keepers:
Alexa
Jimmy
Jey
10GO
      ID: 388562222
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 07:26
still nothing from Zyre... if he wants to swap one of the keepers out he can post in the draft thread the change by NOON today

I just can't post it from work again, so can't wait anymore
11Greg Rude
      ID: 38353511
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 12:55
Please note GO's 4th round pick is Team Rude's
12GO
      ID: 388562222
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 22:35
TRADE
Rude gets 2.3, 3.3
for
GO gets Sami Zayn, 5.7
13Greg Rude
      ID: 501152922
      Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 22:41
Trade confirmed
(Rude's picks 2.3, 2.7, 3.3, 3.7, 4.3, 4.7)
14Farn
      ID: 54031120
      Thu, Apr 06, 2017, 22:09
Amazing how many possibilities there are now with all the NXT call-ups. So many scoring cruiserweights just sitting there.
15Greg Rude
      ID: 501152922
      Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 00:02
This is the most interesting draft we've had since the days of only having 2 keepers. Amazing talent pool.
16Wiggs
      ID: 42142238
      Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 21:29
Are u serious. This draft was pathetic. I had 5 overall and couldn't pick a high scorer because the high scorers after 3 were awful
17 Zyre
      ID: 22734117
      Fri, Apr 07, 2017, 22:34
I agree with Rude as the draft felt very deep to me too, sorry it wasn't top heavy Wiggs but with your keepers I think you made out alright.
18Farn
      ID: 54031120
      Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 15:17
Congrats to Zyre on his Season 33 title.


Anyone looking to move a top star for a Season 35 #1?
19Nailer
      ID: 211124520
      Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 20:06
Wondering... is this the first time RWF finished a draft then the next WWE scoring show had a draft/mini-draft/shakeup?
20Greg Rude
      ID: 501152922
      Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 22:36
I don't remember any in the past, Nailer ... that was the reason I didn't list my roster (RAW) or (Smackdown) like I usually prefer to do.
21Nailer
      ID: 211124520
      Sun, May 07, 2017, 02:26
Mega Powers, Mega-Maniacs....I hadn't known Macho Man and Ultimate Warrior teamed for a short time as the "Ultimate Maniacs". Looks like they only had three matches as a team (all count outs).

Interesting back politics on Warrior and $$$: https://www.todaysknockout.com/wrestling/wwe/wwe-tag-team-spotlight-the-ultimate-maniacs/

Crowd was pretty nuts for them:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x920g4_money-inc-vs-the-ultimate-maniacs-w_news
22GO
      ID: 388562222
      Sun, May 07, 2017, 22:54
Ultimate Maniacs promo
23Greg Rude
      ID: 501152922
      Mon, May 08, 2017, 00:40
So that's where Ryback got his outfit idea from ^
24 Greg Rude
      ID: 43457118
      Thu, May 11, 2017, 09:57
although historically Team Rude prides itself on a competitive roster every single season, we are officially punting for this season. Get that 6th scorer you need to push your team over the top and win a RWF championship. All of the roster is available ... please submit via email (greg_jamerson @yahoo.com)

Enzo Amore
Luke Harper
Erick Rowan
Brock Lesnar
Rusev
Tyler Breeze (Backlash Tag Title Match)
Mojo Rawley

Prefer 2nd round or better, will consider all offers though.
25GO
      ID: 13471611
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 20:56
So can everyone chime in on if you thought the ending round waiver PPV processing includes the regular season PpV finale?

I feel like I noted it that way in the Waivers thread with ***asterisks and footnote but it is not really clear so definitely open to interpretation.

The rules in the regular scoring thread are from before we had these playoff segments so needs to be clarified.
26Farn
      ID: 5610422817
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 21:22
Hmmmm I'm on fence. It's not really noted clearly but that's ok in this league because we've always voted to clear up any muddy stuff.

Honestly I thought the waiver super bowl rule only worked for the playoffs. Didn't realize regular season was an option. If we are casting votes I'll vote No to regular season super bowl waiver process just due to it being unclear.
27RJ
      ID: 43027297
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 21:35
Well I'll vote ending round waiver processing included the reg season ppv because that's how I interpreted it.

Side note what's with the flurry to get this Mike (Bennett) Kanellis guy? The gimmick seems horrible and made me want to change the channel. Was he a big deal in the indies or Tna or something?
28GO
      ID: 565491620
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 22:18
Yes, Bennett is pretty good in the ring. He was the leader of The Kingdom in ROH and skipped NXT for a reason. In the grand scheme this pickup has little impact because neither of us can likely keep him anyway and probably won't even wrestle for a good while while they promo for the summer. So this is a good thing to bring to light an unclear rule. Also, damn yeah, gimmick looking rough at the moment.

Well lets break it down and kill 2 birds with one stone.

1 - Based on the rules written (poorly :) was their a 6 PM processing for (A) regular season AND playoff rounds or (B) just the playoff rounds?
2 - For next season and beyond - (A) regular season AND playoff rounds or (B) just playoff rounds
29Farn
      ID: 54031120
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 22:49
1 B
2 A
30RJ
      ID: 43027297
      Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 22:59
1.) Well I thought it was only 6pm when it was a ppv week right? If that's the case, A. (Only during that short window from Saturday and Sunday leading up to the ppv. The rest of the time it's the standard 24 hour wait to clear.)

2.) A.

31 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 00:52
Bennett and Maria's gimmick seems to be a carry over from his Miracle persona in Impact but he never got over there as Maria had a more successful run in TNA/Impact as a character than Mike did.

I believed the rule to be 3 total regular season finale/semi's/finals

1) A
2) A
32Wiggs
      ID: 325281813
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 07:13
This doesn't make any sense. It's not 6 pm when it's a ppv. It's 6 pm when it's a ppv during playoffs. Rj's post makes no sense.

Can you please post the actual rule on here?
33Wiggs
      ID: 325281813
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 07:32
I remember the point of this rule was so someone didn't go into the playoffs short a guy on a ppv.
34GregRude
      ID: 375302012
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 13:30
A
A
35Wiggs
      ID: 325281813
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 13:44
I still can't find this rule. Can you please post the rule here. I know this wasn't the intent.

According to Rj's reasoning he is saying that this could be done before any ppv and that is 100 percent wrong. Show me the rule
36GO
      ID: 13471611
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 16:57
The rule was created because of “weeks” that were PPV like the one we just had. “Week 11” was just the PPV as a way to end that session and start a new week the next day.

The need for the rule was to clear up how the 1 move max rule would work between “Week 11” and the traditional Week 12 for this example.

So we picked 6 PM so that claims would finalize – and you could then could still execute a roster add/drop between 6-8 PM and add someone for Monday of the following “week”.



As Wiggs states – it is NOT for all PPVs. Just for when the PPV is all by itself. Which is only end of regular season (this debate), end of each playoff round (definitely).

But it’s definitely not perfectly clear whether its regular season AND playoffs.

I did asterisk it in the schedule as a round ending waiver processing, which I thought was pretty clear. But then it also specifically has the word Playoffs in there.



The rule below is in the opening post of the Waivers thread.

It’s also in the Scoring thread, but more specific here from Waivers thread because we didn’t have this head to head round setup when the original rule was written.



Week 10 – 6/12 RAW/SD
*Week 11 – 6/18 PPV ONLY
*Trade Deadline = Regular Season Finale



*Round Ending Waiver Processing
6 PM roster processing of any pending claims/trades day of this event. Playoff round ending PPV's - all pending claims will process at 6 PM before the PPV. If you want your new wrestler scored you must set a new lineup before the respective PPV's start or leave instructions on the board or via email for us to implement.

This counts as your one move per "week" aka Roster Freeze period regardless of you complete a claim earlier that same week or using the 6PM buzzer
37Wiggs
      ID: 325281813
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 17:26
That's what I thought. Clearly says playoffs round. Not sure how it is even up for a vote.
38GO
      ID: 13471611
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 20:23
Because it's really just poorly written and the intent was to help process all single show "week" PPVs. Seeing how everyone seems to be voting along those lines it's apparent the majority interpreted it that way as well.

So we will go with just playoff ending PPV this time and all single week PPV shows in future seasons.
39GO
      ID: 13471611
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 20:44
It actually used to read that way. I took out the specific PPV name so I wouldn't have to remember to edit every season and forgot to make that part of it generic.


Trade Deadline = 10/28 Hell in a Cell PPV with a 7 PM roster processing of any pending claims/trades day of this event. Same for the playoff round ending PPV's - all pending claims will process at 7 PM before the PPV. If you want your new wrestler scored you must set a new lineup before the respective PPV's start or leave instructions on the board or via email for us to implement.
40RJ
      ID: 1571814
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 21:48
That's just what I had remembered, I honestly hadn't read it in a long time though... just assumed that's how it always worked?
41GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 21:49
Yeah, and we moved to 6 PM when they started doing pre-shows to maintain the gap.
42Wiggs
      ID: 325281813
      Tue, Jun 20, 2017, 21:55
It doesn't really matter I don't see mike Bennett starting for either of us. This was just a situation I didn't like happening because I thought it was wrong. We can let the vote play out. Just think it should be a clear rule.

I know u said everyone interpreted it that way. Well Rj said he thought it was every ppv so he really didn't understand the rule at all
43Farn
      ID: 5610422817
      Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 15:46
I'm gonna weigh in as one the longest tenured league members...

To me the rule makes it clear it was meant to be for the playoffs. It specifically says so. So to me it should haven't been processed at 6pm. That said the horse is already out of the barn. At this point we probably can't take him off GO's roster. So in this case we are stuck. But to be clear the rule was stated as playoffs, whether that was inadvertent or not.

People seem to be voting as though they think he goes to GO. This league has always gone with votes so that's how it'll stay.

As far as the future, I'd prefer to see the rule only be used for the final regular season PPV plus the final PPV of both playoff rounds. Nothing else.
44GO
      ID: 565491620
      Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 22:51
Well I don't agree we can't take him off my roster. My view is the claim isn't finalized yet while we clarify.

It really comes down to how to view this thing. If we are following the exact way its written in the current waiver thread, then he belongs to Wiggs.

But the clear from the way it was written before (post 39) that it was supposed to be for all of the single week PPVs. That got lost when I tried to change the language of the rule to make it more generic, so I didn't have to update each season. So its essentially a typo.

I do know there seems to be consensus (and the original rule) that agrees it will be used for all single week PPV's going forward. We've established that much so that is progress.
45GO
      ID: 565491620
      Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 22:14
So we'll go with "way its written" for the past PPV situation.

And we'll go with the way it was intended going forward. And I'll write something more extensive for future seasons.
46 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 21:41
AJ Styles just defeated Kevin Owens to win the WWE United States championship at Madison Square Garden in NYC. The show is still ongoing but this would be a rarity for a house show, even an MSG event. That is if nothing changes.

47Wiggs
      ID: 20502821
      Mon, Jul 10, 2017, 12:15
Of course he did. Non scoring show. Guarantee my team scores the most points next week. It happens all the time.
48GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 22:49
I have to say... winning the US Title AT A HOUSE SHOW just about sums it up right now.
49RJ
      ID: 326401918
      Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 23:39
I have to say (going back to our conversation) Kanellis looked good in the ring during the match against Sami Zayn on Smackdown. First time I've really seen in action.
50 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Sun, Aug 20, 2017, 23:52
I was sweating the possibility of back to back GO title wins but thankfully the almighty power of the Legit Boss and her minions have brought forth unto me a most glorious of Threepeats!!


High Scorer:
Jinder Mahal

Back to Sarlacc Pit:
Becky Lynch
Carmella
Elias Samson
Shelton Benjamin

Keepers:
Sasha Banks
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
Asuka [Retained as Prospect]
51RJ
      ID: 43027297
      Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 13:26
Wow nice job Zyre. The key for you was acquiring Jinder who went on one of the best seasons in recent memory.

Lost
Owens

Keep
John Cena
Charlotte
Broken Matt
Drew McIntyre (retain prospect)

Return to pool
Neville
Mz, Axel
Rv, Dawson
Aiden English
52 Zyre
      ID: 12753119
      Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 13:43
Thanks RJ, I agree I was in the right place right time with waiver priority to get Jinder and India tour coming up in September really helped me out I think.
53GO
      ID: 565491620
      Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 21:18
Congrats to Zyre, not sure there was any combo of wins i could have had last night to make up the difference after Corbin collapsed at the end of the season. Not sure whose cereal he pissed in but somebody is not happy with him.

Also he winds up 12 points short of my top scorer and causes me to lose my favorite guy Finn who I spent almost 3 years waiting on. And lose in one season.

Strowman will be available in a deal to get Finn back.
54GO
      ID: 565491620
      Mon, Aug 21, 2017, 21:22
Sorry to see Nailer go, we've had a long run of steady team ownership since Tree left.

I do have a new guy lined up to take over, so thats good news.

Farn has discussed leaving. I've asked him to stay on a season and just play without scoring and see if he has more fun. Thinking the scoring has just burned him out. Side note. Hoping to find a RAW scorer. I'm not sure it would be as easy to find a second new owner.
55Greg Rude
      ID: 6528420
      Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 19:34
High Scorer: Nia Jax

Keep: Enzo/Rusev/Lesnar
56Greg Rude
      ID: 6528420
      Tue, Aug 22, 2017, 19:38
Thanks for all the great seasons Nailer and congrats Zyre on already your third title.
57GO
      ID: 565491620
      Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 22:16
I don't think we'll be drafting til next week, so enjoy the summer break.

Farn has agreed to stick around and just play this season. So I will tell my friend Rich to say hello and post his keeper choices from Nailers roster here.

Nailer Roster
Lose Top Scorer = Naomi
Maintain Prospect (obviously) = Bobby Roode

Pick 3 Keepers from here
Big E
Xavier
Y2J
Ziggler
Goldust
Bailey
Tyler Breeze
58R-Money
      ID: 54782618
      Mon, Aug 28, 2017, 19:15
Hey Its Rich, thanks for the add. Keeping Roode as prospect, Ziggler, Bayley and Xavier woods.
59GO
      ID: 565491620
      Mon, Aug 28, 2017, 22:27
By the way, that was Zyre's third... IN A ROW for a total of 5. That ties Wiggs' three in a row record from early in the league history.Quite a feat with the new rules setup for competitive balance.
60GO
      ID: 565491620
      Mon, Aug 28, 2017, 23:07
I think waiting on keepers from Wiggs, Farn and Ace.
61Wiggs
      ID: 20502821
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 15:20
Keepers
Joe
Orton
Bray
Prospect johnny gargano
62 Ace
      ID: 417422914
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 15:43
Keepers:
Alexa
Jimmy Uso
Jey Uso
63Nailer
      ID: 38721260
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 19:14
Good luck!

Lottery Numbers:
4,13,15,22,30,49,52,53,71,86,90,94
64R-Money
      ID: 54782618
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 19:33
Changing Keepers

Roode (Prospect)
Big E
Dolph Ziggler
Bayley
65GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 20:53
Nailer run-in!!!!

1-30 and 41-70 for Farn
31-40 and 81-100 for Ace
66GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 20:55
Farn wins #1!!!!

Rude runs in and steals #2 with the leftover of 71 to whatever....

Ace somehow misses and gets 3rd.
67GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 23:03
I lose Finn
Keep - Strowman, Shinsuke, Jeff Hardy, Black (prospect)
Punt - Corbin, Zayn, Cass, Tamina
68GO
      ID: 565491620
      Tue, Aug 29, 2017, 23:05
Farn emailed -- keep Cesaro, Miz, Jordan

High score Rollins
Punt - Gallows, Kingston, Show, Tozawa
Angle can't be prospect
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