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Subject: Anyone interested in O'Haire/Orton
Posted by: kev
- [3155515] Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 13:56
Im willing to part with Orton/O'Haire for a package of more consistant scorers coming back. I basically have 4 wrestlers getting me points, and I need more. |
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| 52 | Mike D
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ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 19:57
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Well h*ll, I have Tajiri and Jazz out to kev, so they may as well be on the table to you too. Angle? Farn, Eddie?
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| 53 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:18
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mike D, i will pass on that offer. Sorry.
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| 54 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:19
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nah, i would rather keep eddie.
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| 55 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:31
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I assume the counters were e-mailed.......
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| 56 | Farn
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ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:32
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Mike D- i didn't send a counter because if you were looking for Eddie in return for those 2 I problem don't have much to offer you. But let me take a look at your roster.
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| 57 | Farn
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ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:37
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Mike D- I am not sure I want to give up Eddie or Show for Tajiri. And I don't think anyone else on my roster is worthy of that trade at this point.
I have interest in Kane though. Anyone you would want in return?
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| 58 | Mike D
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ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:37
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Sure. Eddie.
Lol!
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| 59 | Farn
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ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:39
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hahahaha. i love it.
i was hoping to say i traded with the greatest trader in the history of this site. but apparently my team is as bad as i thought with only eddie having any value.
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| 60 | Great One
Donor
ID: 298341017
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:42
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I am willing to trade with anybody, anybody I have, at any time. Email me if you have interest in anyone on my team.
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| 61 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:44
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LMAO!
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| 62 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:48
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Mike D, I am looking at a possible 2 for 2 with kane, RVD for angle and someone.
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| 63 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 21:13
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Interesting. That 2nd guy would have to pretty good though, eh? RVD is 3rd in points. Tajiri is 7th. Kane is Kane. ;)
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| 64 | Mike D
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ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 00:12
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I always get confused about our rosters----do they expire on Saturday each week? Or Sunday? Cuz' that may impact my trade offer.
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| 65 | mIST
ID: 5351150
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 03:26
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Offer: Mark Henry + John Heidenreich for Orton + O'Haire.
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| 66 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 09:43
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Can anyone help with my question in 64? Sorry, but it has always confused me.
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| 67 | GoatLocker
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ID: 60151121
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:04
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When we have a pay per view and set our roster on Sat, it is valid for Sun, so I would say that it runs from Sun to Sat.
Cliff
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| 68 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:14
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i always thought it ran monday-->sunday.
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| 69 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:25
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i thought monday through sunday too.
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| 70 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:28
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according to this post
rules
it is saturday night at 1150. so i guess that means sunday through saturday.
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| 71 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:34
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Confusing stuff. We'll blame it on the Hen.
Thanks guys. kev, if my deal is the one you pick, I'd probably want Tajiri's PPV match for 11/16----but, we could make the deal effective the following week, even if it was consumated today. Let me know bro.
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| 72 | Mattinglyinthehall
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ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:37
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Obviously, that's a rule that we've enforced very leniently, if at all. I know that I usually wait until Sunday to set my roster and I don't believe I'm usually the last one to do so.
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| 73 | Mike D
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ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:39
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True MITH. Not a big deal under normal circumstances, but with a possible trade in the works (for a few of us), it becomes key.
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| 74 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:51
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maybe we could get blue hen to rule on this. he was always so keen on the rules of this league.
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| 75 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 11:14
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Blue Hen is too busy explaining why he's called Blue Hen...it's because his preferred feminine name, Blue Bitch, was a bit to risque for the Rotoboard censors.
seriously, the 11:50 saturday night time was set because saying midnight saturday seemed to confuse people.
for all intents and purposes, the "active week" runs from sunday to saturday, meaning that if there's a PPV, those are the first points scored in the week...hopefully that clarifies a bit...
i.e. PPV, Raw, Smackdown....*NOT* Raw, Smackdown, PPV.
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| 76 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 11:43
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Yup. Thanks a lot.
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| 77 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:00
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So if I accept a trade today, PPV points for Orton will be mine or the other guys?
It's important, because the trade I am going to take has no PPV people.
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| 78 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:02
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That would depend on the stips you work out with whoever you are trading with. I'll tell you that if you are considering dealing with me I am happy to make the deal official at the time that is most convenient for you.
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| 79 | Mike D
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ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:09
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Agree with MITH----depends on the stips you agree to with your trading partner. Shouldn't be hard, but needs to be done, nonetheless.
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| 80 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:18
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hey, i'm game for whatever your parameters are on our trade, Kev...:o)
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| 81 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:20
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Did you offer the girl with the big boobs? That's always persuasive.
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| 82 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:24
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After trying to figure out who is going where, and what brand, Raw or Smackdown I could use some help on, and what kind of guy I want on my team, I have decided to take Wiggs trade of Garrison Cade and Stacy Keibler.
I would like this trade to happen after the PPV, but before RAW, if it is okay with Wiggs....
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| 83 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:28
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Interesting. Good to see this didn't drag on, at least. Props on that kev.
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| 84 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:31
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Reasoning....
Once the Cade/Keibler and Tajiri/Jazz trades came in, they were the 2 I was debating between.
I took Cade/Keibler just based on Cade's future with the company. I hope to hold onto him. Keibler has always been my favourite chick, so that helped too. Even with Test out, she should find a place on TV.
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| 85 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:33
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.......and in your heart. ;)
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| 86 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 3310211114
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:35
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so wait, if I accept this offer I would lose the points out of Orton at the PPV and I would lose any points out of keibler and cade on Raw?
Also, Kev, who will you be waiving in this deal, since it is 2 for 1?
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| 87 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:37
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The week begins Sunday, so your statement would not be correct wiggs.
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| 88 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:38
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you are recieving O'Haire as well
Wiggs- you will also be gaining Orton's points on Raw...
But it is a stipulation we can discuss. I can't see it being worthwhile to put this trade through this week. But I am willing to do whatever the rules stipulate.
Looking at the rules, it looks like the week starts beginning on Sunday....
If no mid week trades are allowed, then I will give over Orton for the PPV.
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| 89 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 3310211114
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:48
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oh ok kev, i misunderstood, I thought you had said you wanted to hold Ohaire for a later trade.
Give me a little bit to make sure this is what i want to do. I have a few things that I have read that are making me reconsider. I will let you know later tonight.
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| 90 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:04
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WOW
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| 91 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:07
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I thought it was either you or me here MITH. I bet you did too. kev pulled a fast one on us.
Damn heels. ;)
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| 92 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 5110201115
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:23
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Kev, I will accept your deal. My thoughts were that Cade should be getting a huge push, possibly a title shot in the near future, but It will be great to have 3 of the 4 members of evolution.
Its a done deal.
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| 93 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:28
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wiggs hit it on the head...
While Rikishi is a fan favourite, I doubt you will see any push for him with how his contract situation was handled, and with the eye surgery. Trish is a great commodity, but from all I have read, Cade is going to get a big big push. I also read of a turn in the near future, and title belts. All this led me to take him.
I felt out of all the wrestlers named, Cade would come the closest to Orton in points, and Stacey should give me promo points most weeks.
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| 95 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:34
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I think Wiggs just won this season, hands down, even if Angle really is done. Goldberg, Batista, Flair and now Orton for two of his three lowest scorers thus far. If the Angle rumor turns out to be false, his keeper situation will be pretty unstoppable, too, assuming Goldberg remains his top scorer.
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| 96 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 5110201115
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:37
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mike D, would you mind emailing me what you heard about angle?
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| 97 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:19
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man, and i offered Chavo and Yang...somehow that doesn't equate to Cade and Stacey...hmmmm...
also, to clarify something said earlier:
I would like this trade to happen after the PPV, but before RAW, if it is okay with Wiggs....
can't be done. the wrestler can only be active for one team for that week. you choose him saturday night, he's yours all week.
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| 98 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:37
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I think they got that last part ironed out, Mr. Tree, of the Ying/Yang offer.
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| 99 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 217351118
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:51
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I wouldn't question Kev's reasoning. We all have differing ideas regarding plot directions and weretlers' potential and values. Personally, I think Basham/A Train was by far the best offer on the table, so good in fact that I think it proably would have been to much to hand over for Orton/O'Haire.
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| 100 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 18:34
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I felt it might be too much, but in this case both Orton and O'Haire were next on my queue at the time that Kev took them.
I'm perfectly content to stick with Basham and A-Train.
Was just looking at moving one of my tag team bodies.
Cliff
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| 101 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 217351118
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 18:40
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I wouldn't question anyone's judgement on these matters, as there is little evidence to show that the actual talent of the wrestlers is any more of an indicator of their potential success than the nonsensical whims of management. If there was, and Rikishi Kevin Nash would have spent the last 3 years selling used cars and Stevie Richards and Tommy Dreamer would be solid midcarders.
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| 102 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 19:33
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Tree- I just don't have faith in Chavo...at all. Plus, I needed a Raw figure on my team.
I really think Cade will perform great...I thought he was the best wrestler on the table. He is already getting a push.
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