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0 Subject: Week 17 Raw Points

Posted by: Farn
- Sustainer [451044109] Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:19

J.R. 2
Lawler 2
Orton 5+30+10= 45
Booker T 5+15=20
Mark Henry 5
Teddy Long 5
Bischoff 5+5+5=15
RVD 30
Steiner 15
Jericho 2+2=4
Christian 2
Coach 2+2+2=6
Vince 2+2=4
Buh-Buh 2+10=12
D'von 2+10=12
Flair 5+5=10
Eddie Kramer 16
Russell Simpson 16
Batista 5
Lita 2+25=27
Trish 2+2+25=29
Stacey 2+25=27
Terri 2
Austin 2+2+2+2+5= 13
Kane 5
Linda 2
Victoria 12
Jackie 12
Molly 12
HHH 30+10+10= 50
HBK 15+10= 25

- Didn't give points to Orton or Foley for the announcement of Orton's win on the last raw.
- Only gave one set of 5 points to Henry and Long for the opening segment
- Gave 5 points to Flair for refereeing.
- Gave HHH points for the win although Bischoff described it as a tie.
1Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:31
can I just say that my level of excitement for watching wrestling both increased and decreased all in a 2 minute span?

HBK wins and I am loving it. Finally that greedy, backstage suckup HHH loses his belt. And just like that he keeps it.

And this league bores me to tears. No offense, but what wiggs has sucks for everyone. He was smart in holding all his guys through season 1 with injuries. And now somehow he hit the McMahon lottery because they all sucked up to HHH and have gotten a huge push.

I mean geezus, look at this team: Goldberg, Orton, Batista, Flair, Angle, Mysterio.

Sorry, but my interest is disappearing quickly. Because he will keep the 5 guys listed there we have almost no chance to win Season 3 either unless a few of them all get hurt at once.

I am happy for wiggs, but it effectively sucks the life out of the league.
2wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 211116514
      Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:35
well if it makes anyone feel better, my team has done crap the last 3 weeks.
This week 62 points
Last week 0 points
week before 55 points

I dont think i will run away with anything here.
3Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 23715270
      Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:36
Throw 'em all back in next year says me. Never been a keeper fan, and the earlier threads will reflect that.
4wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 211116514
      Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:38
oh yeah, and dont we only keep 4 guys?
5Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Dec 29, 2003, 23:41
wiggs- no one got points last week. :)

and no, your low total this week makes no one feel better. there were less matches this week and point totals are lower across the board. so your score isn't that bad.

but yeah, its 4 guys, not 5. so you can drop the old man Flair too, who likely won't hold the tag title at that point and will be back to his 5 points a week.
6kev
      ID: 3155515
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 00:58
Bischoff with only 15?
7Mattinglyinthehall
      Sustainer
      ID: 217351118
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 07:37
Wiggs isn't in as great shape as you guys say. I know that I may have been the first one to mention that he is likely in position to run away with season 3 as well, but consider; Orton is currently (including last night) 23 points behind Goldberg, and should pass him, as there are some 10 - 13 weeks left in the season and there are doubts about Goldberg's future in the WWE. So Wiggs will likely have to give up Orton as his top scorer and lose Goldberg as well. Carrying over Rey, Batista, Angle and Flair is still pretty formidable and probably good enough to keep him in contention, but from last place in a straight draft, he shouldn't be nearly so unbeatable as he has been in Season 2.

Wiggs deserves every ounce of the credit, though. He patiantly sat with Batista through the injury and Goldberg waiting for his run to come and finished near last place in Season 1 to put himself in position to draft Angle. Then he pulled off wat was easily the best trade in the short history of our league. What can you say but great job, Wiggs.
8Tree
      Donor
      ID: 351162822
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 08:05
1. Wiggs looks to run away with things this season, and stands a good chance of doing the same next, and it's because he was patient last season, and made a gangbuster of a trade this season. that's how the game is played. i'm hoping a couple of his guys get injured to level the playing field this season, and that too, is part of the game.

my team sucked last year. but i gutted it out - even having to deal with losing Randy Orton, who was injured msot of the season, on the last day of the season as he became my top scored. and now i have a shot at winning this year - and it's been exciting.

stick with it - the fun is playing this game - there can only be one winner, and the odds are it's not gonna be you (and by that i mean the collective "you"), so just enjoy and try to build for the future.

2. yea, the WWE sucks. it's really lame. seriously, any of you guys who are in the northeast (or ohio or chicago), check out Ring of Honor. read the website to learn some of the storylines and angles and wrestlers. then go to the shows.

i'm telling you, you'll become a convert. i've been to probably a half-dozen shows, and each one blows away the next. AJ Styles is amazing. Samoa Joe is more credible than HHH as a World Champion. CM Punk has all the skills. Colt Cabana has that rare gift of making you laugh your ass off (i mean, the dude comes out to Barry Manilow's "Cobacabana", then being able to kick someone's ass and you believe it . Christopher Daniels is a great heel. Danny Maff is a scary tough guy who you think might just kill someone in a back alley one day. Homicide is a flat out brawler, and crazy as a mofo. the Briscoes are so young to be so talented. The Carnage Crew will bleed for you. And Bryan Danielson - the American Dragon - is as amazing a worker as i've ever seen. he'll hit some high spots. he'll stretch you. and he can definitely be the epitome of Strong Style wrestling.

and sometimes, like this past weekend, you'll get to see history - like seeing the Great Muta, Keijo Muto, in action. i simply can't describe the intensity of seeing him come down to the ring, much less wrestling. WOW.

once again, if you're soured on the WWF, check out Ring of Honor. it will make you a fan again.
9Great One
      Donor
      ID: 141172214
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 09:45
I agree Wiggs is not in "amazing" shape for next year like some think... his team is on fire this year. It is what it is... REMEMBER Goldbergs future IS in doubt... Orton and Batista are both injury prone - as some of us have learned - Rey - though aweseome - seems to get lost in the shuffle of Smackdown... And Angles injuries are another major concern. And yeah - its only 4 guys, so he has to make some decisions...
10Great One
      Donor
      ID: 141172214
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 09:48
and last nights bullsh!t ending... I was almost really pissed I traded away HBK, but what a great performance, my brother was even watching even though he doesn't like wrestling, he kept looking up and following along.
Great match, i just wished I turned it off before the swerve...
11Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 23715270
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 10:46
Agreed GO on last night's main event. After 29 minutes, HBK deserved the strap.
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