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Subject: Trades with a Dead Team?
Posted by: Farn
- Sustainer [451044109] Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 17:37
I want to start planning for next season seeing as though wiggs has a strangle hold on this one.
One team I would like to make a trade with is Sponger's team. But as we all know he isn't the manager anymore really. So instead of going through him at this point and having it look bad I want to see if as a league we can collectively manage his team.
Basically I want to trade Show and Victoria for Booker and any warm body. He would lose Show or Booker no matter what as his high scorer, so Victoria would be the small upgrade over whoever he sends back to me. I would go after his #1 pick instead but I suspect that would be a nightmare to get a league consensus on. I could change Victoria out for anybody not named Eddie or Molly.
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| 1 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 17:39
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I for one have no problem with making this trade. The one thing I would like to see though before making a trade like this would be for us to see if anyone wants this team. If they do, we should let them have control now like we did with Young Gunz. If no one wants this team, maybe we should just dissolve it. It is pretty pathetic as it is and Sponge has been a terrible manager.
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| 2 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 17:41
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A good point wiggs. I just haven't heard of anyone who wanted it. If there is by all means lets get them going.
And yeah, its a bad bad team. Only 1 team is possibly worse than this one long term. If we dissolve it we should know that in advance to help with planning.
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| 3 | Tree
ID: 40141166
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 17:56
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i dont see how we can approve a trade with an inactive team.
i think we have to find another owner, or disband the team at the end of the year, and throw everyone into the draft pool.
Mike D and I may have discovered a long shot owner in Senator Urine...
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| 4 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 17:57
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Contraction might be the best thing.
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| 5 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 20:01
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Yeah, I'd lean towards testing out the Urinator, or considering contraction, at this point.
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| 6 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 20:04
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Damn
Ok, anybody with interest in the Big Show who can provide me with a scorer who has value?
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| 7 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 20:20
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I agree with Contraction or Senator Urinator.
Cliff
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| 8 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Mon, Feb 16, 2004, 20:42
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it won't be my team unless you have a great idea! :)
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| 9 | Great One
ID: 481101721
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 21:26
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WE LOVE URINE!
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| 10 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Feb 18, 2004, 21:33
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You can lead a Senator to a toilet...................
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| 11 | Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 09:54
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This is an open call to all who would like to make one an offer.
My 1st Round Draft pick (likely #1 overall) in exchange for your first round pick - roughly in the top 5 -- AND Rhyno/Orlando for someone who will have more points at the end then Test.
so
Great One's
No.1 Pick Overall
Rhyno(or maybe Orlando who I know some are high on)
for
YOUR
No.1 Pick
i.e. Tajiri/Mark Henry/???
Hopefully some of those guys that don't check in anymore are around because they are the ones within range of being able to do this.
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| 12 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 11:11
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GO - I have many that will fit the bill including Flair and Steiner. However, my potential draft pick might be too low in the #7/#8 range. If you get nothing better I would likely make that trade.
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| 13 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 11:13
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i'm in the same boat. i'm interested, but i figure to have one of the last 4 picks of the round...
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| 14 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 11:26
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I am hoping to have a top 3 draft choice
Oh wait, that was last season
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| 15 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 12:03
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Yeah yeah wiggs! Any idiot could tank their season with injured guys and out-of-wrestling superstars, then luck into Lesnar at #2 and trade with some idiot for Benoit (wait, that was ME!)....but it takes a real man to win the league when starting fresh with no keepers!
So shaddup! ;-)
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| 16 | Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 13:27
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I am know that pick is worth more then anything I have - and it more then likely means you get Brock. But it seems like after those first handful of picks its a steep cliff, thats why this is dangerous water I am treading in the further I would go down.
but to be honest I am not a big fan of Brock, so at worst I could draft him and move him afterwards.
Those situations would have been perfect.. but I just can't fall beyond about 6 or so I would guess. Its not like Test is that great, but I would love to be able to keep him. Another warm active body for my squad at least (was that gay?). I am in need of some depth. Its pretty pathetic that my leading scorer will be in the low 200's.
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| 17 | Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 13:34
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must be friday, I can't type
can I trade away my waiver priority? :)
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| 18 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 13:46
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Let me take a look at things, and I might be interested.
Cliff
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| 19 | Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 13:51
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has anyone seen Kev, Sponge, Adam H lately? I guess they are my other hopes.
whose team does Young Gunz now control?
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| 20 | Great One@ Work
ID: 40150137
Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 13:52
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I am interested to see the list of guys that are gonna be available.. I know one guy who is actually being kept and not given up is HHH.. that limits the number of spots I can afford to drop.
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| 21 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sat, Feb 21, 2004, 17:13
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Young Gunz has the Adam H team. I'm way behind in the keeper mentality. Even understanding your above proposal is confusing to me........oh well.
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| 22 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 217351118
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 10:16
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Great One,
Tough to say what my pick will be, I was in 7th place as of the Week 22 standings and I'm not sure if my potential keepers will improve or hurt my position.
How about Vince (currently 217 points) + my first pick for
Your fist pick + whoever you want to give me?
Note that handing over Vince will reduce my total score by his final mark, so it would actually be in your best interest to give me a lower scorer in return, to try to improve my draft position.
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| 23 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 11:43
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man, thats probably the best offer right now - not sure if that will be too far to fall or not - I keep thinking there are 10 teams - but that would be roughly 5th pick right now - and with no HHH to fill up a spot - the likelihood of landing the guy I want out of the top 4 is shrinking... I might wind up just holding this unless I can get top 4 - and then trade Brock from there.
and a brighter note - Mike D - previously discussed trade offer you were thinking over.
Kim/Zack! for Orlando/Palumbo.
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| 24 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 12:35
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GO, sent you an e-mail.
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| 25 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 13:45
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responded to the email...
also something to consider - just looking at the dead squad - perhaps I could get league approval for me to trade with the dead team - the same package deal you guys have all considered - Then we can give the dead squad the number 1 pick overall - which should help recruit a manager because that will be part of the package offered to them - they get Brock! -...
Lita would work in that scenario. Maybe a couple others... I am just gonna give her away as my top scorer anyway - but I move down in exchange.
Looks like the deal with Mike D is pretty much done - so I am not sure if I absolutely need to do this anyway, but its something I have been taking a look at.
The more I look at it - the more I think I need to be in the top 4 to get the guy I have been looking at. So thats my new likely cutoff for that potential deal.
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| 26 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:08
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GO, I'll accept the deal outlined above in post 23, if you want to conclude it here by posting. Also e-mailed you.
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| 27 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:12
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Trade Official ---
Kim/Zack for Orlando/Palumbo
put your new roster over in the other threads to update...
I finally give up on Orlando - sure to become the next US Champion - I can see it now.
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| 28 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:15
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Lol----maybe I should keep him then!
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| 29 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:23
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To me - he just kind of looked like he had IT.. whatever that was, but never seemed to materialize when I had him... who knows. Thats the way my luck goes, so it wouldn't surprise me if he went on to become a star..
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| 30 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:28
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Anybody want Hardcore Holly? Orlando Jordan? Anyone? I have my trading hat on.
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| 31 | Tree
ID: 42133228
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:47
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I finally give up on Orlando - sure to become the next US Champion - I can see it now
more importantly, you received someone who was dropped by the WWE weeks ago...
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| 32 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 14:57
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I know, it was a 2 for 1 deal essentially...
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| 33 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 15:01
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and it gives me an obvious, easy choice for someone to drop from my bench if someone comes along and I can use my waiver status - though I am likely gonna hold it til next season cause I wouldn't be able to keep whoever I pick up anyway. I actually have a few people worth keeping now.
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| 34 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 16:11
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trying to get a rough idea of who is gonna be everyone's top scorers...
my guesses as of Week 22 standings
Dvon or Doug Basham
RVD
Y2J
Kane or Tajiri
Wiggs - Benoit?
Booker T
Goldberg
Cena
Test or Rhyno
Guerrero
Brock
Bischoff?
with all the trades and stuff that might not be accurate - and again, its a few weeks old (I was assuming that Eddie passed Big Show)...
anyone I am completely wrong on?
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| 35 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 16:16
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I can try to post standings tomorrow if wiggs (or somebody else) wants to post smackdown points for this past week.
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| 36 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 217351118
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 16:18
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I'll get on that in a few.
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| 37 | Great One
ID: 301242216
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 17:33
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and after looking long and hard at the squads of Sponge and Kev (and Adam H actually, but Young Gunz has show some enthusiasim in taking it over)... I am all for considering contraction of those two squads... that would get us down to a nice even 10 teams of guys that actually wanna play.
that is unless we get some guys geniunely interested (senator urine had potential)...
I say we put a time limit on it - whens the last time either one posted anything? - if they don't check in say by March 1st and show an intention to stick with it - they get eaten up and spit back into the pot.
So thats my vote with that roughly designed stipulation.
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| 38 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 17:47
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i am 99.9999999% sure Sponge has totally forgotten. I was just out visiting him this weekend and he didn't say a word. And like I said before I am not going to mention it because at this point I am in favor of contraction of his team.
I could be wrong but I think Kev has posted relatively recently. As long as he will be active I would be against contracting him.
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| 39 | Great One
ID: 301242216
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 18:40
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kev actually posted this in one of the roster threads... so I would say he is accounted for.
I would like to also apologize for my absense of late. I am really busy. I'm fighting with my girl constantly, and just getting used to my new job.
That, and the fact I am lucky to have 3 or 4 active guys every week, and I'm just waiting to start fresh, and not trade Wiggs any members of Evolution
so everyone needs to say whether or not they are in favor of contracting Sponges team.
2-0 so far.
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| 40 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 20:13
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Should the vote also be to offer it to the Senator? Just wondering. I'm okay either way.
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| 41 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Feb 22, 2004, 21:22
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I thought we did, and he didn't seem to interested - but sure.
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| 42 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 10:21
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with us controlling this team, should we make lineup changes?
possible spoiler so highlight if you want to know.
If so I would propose moving Rock into the lineup and taking out Grenier. In time for Monday would be nice.
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| 43 | Mike D
ID: 431162422
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 11:13
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I wouldn't. Let it ride. And ESPECIALLY if there is a spoiler..........
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| 44 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 00:27
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i say let it ride, his team means nothing anyways.
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| 45 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 12:50
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Let it ride.
Cliff
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| 46 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Mon, Mar 01, 2004, 19:05
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Goat - you still considering the possible 1st round swap of picks? post 18...
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| 47 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 08:32
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Yes I am, just got busy at work.
Give me a day or two to make an offer.
Cliff
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