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0 Subject: Any RAW predictions (use as spoiler later)

Posted by: kev
- [3155515] Mon, May 17, 2004, 02:11

Sad for Smackdown, but I think more people are interested in tommorow's RAW than tonight's PPV.

I hope Benoit shows up.

My final 4 in the battle Royal are Kane, Triple H, Christian, and Jericho.

I think Jericho and Christian will end up eliminating each other, and HBK will somehow help eliminate HHH, leaving Kane the winner.

I really hope this somehow involves Lita, as I would love a build up to a PPV Main Event using 2 of my wrestlers.

First person eliminated- sadly, I believe it will be the Hurricane.
1Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 21:35
after the Benjamin/Orton fight in the ring they went to commercial. I ran to get ice cream. I came back to see the backstage vignette of Evolution.

I checked rajah's live recap and it says something about them showing an old Batista match, possibly because they were having technical difficulties. Did anybody see it who can tell me how to score it?
2Tree
      ID: 484391021
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:09
Do Ray Mi Fa So La Ti...to Santana...

goddamn, Eugene rules!
3Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:21
ya know, at some point i will realize that whenever they are in California Rock shows up.
4Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:32
OMG, I lost it twice:

When he said "It doesn't matter what you think"
and when he said his favorite wrestler is Triple H.

Easily 2 of the funnier moments in recent Raw history. And a great job by Rock to help this guy get over even more than he already was.
5Tree
      ID: 484391021
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:38
i mean, the people LOVE Eugene. he's already gotten more of a push then anyone brought up to the roster in quite some time...
6Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:47
Well, this is disastorous for scoring. Without even waiting for them to come back from commercial because I know their highlights won't help much....

How are we going to score this now that we have no idea who exited in what order? Should we default to appearance points and give the final 4 extra points for making the final 4 and main event? Plus points to the winner?
7Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 22:49
nevermind, we may have completely lucked out.
9Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 23:12
Here's what I got (Royale points):
11 Nitro
12 Richards
13 Rosie
14 Conway
15 Maven
16 Venis
17 Granier
18 Cade
19 Rhyno
20 Hurricane
21 Flair
22 Y2J
23 Batista
34 Edge
35 Orton
36 Benjamin
37 HHH
38 Kane

Matt Hardy and Christian never made it out to the Royale.
10Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 23:15
MITH- i am trying to post my totals. Because 2 guys sat out I started with 13 points for Nitro instead of 11? You think still stay with 11? Or go to 13 to get to an even 30 for the winner?
11Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 23:19
Why not stay with 11 for the low end and make up the difference by giving the 2 extra poiunts to Kane, for a total of 40 for the winner? Really it should have occured to me that there should be more than a 1 point diff between 1st and 2nd place.
12Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 23:20
that works even better for me :)
13kev
      ID: 3155515
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 03:31
Wow....I guess I'm back.

Lita involved with Kane, who will now be involved with Benoit, for the title.

All in all, a great week for my team. If Gunn can show up for a Smackdown match, even better.

All 6 wrestlers giving me 13 plus points...most excellent.

And Kane will never, EVER win the title from Benoit.

I am really liking the pushes that Eugene and Benjamin are getting. They should really let Orton dump the strap, move him to main event status, and let some of these faces getting a major push get some IC time.

It's sad to see the tag team match tonight was better than any match at the PPV.

And when is Batista going to get pushed as a monster. Last week, he obliterates Tajiri, this week, he goes head to head with Kane. Great stuff.

Best RAW in awhile. Better than the one I saw live in Calgary.

Might be a short time in 5th place for me. Hope you all got your shots in while you could.
14wiggs
      ID: 63301420
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 06:32
I have a pretty solid week going so far myself
Orton 54
Grenier 17
Angle 10
Rey 37
RVD 37
Booker 32

Total 186 so far with 4 smackdown guys still to go.
15Tree
      ID: 484391021
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 06:52
I am really liking the pushes that Eugene and Benjamin are getting. They should really let Orton dump the strap, move him to main event status, and let some of these faces getting a major push get some IC time.

i agree. now is the time for Orton to lose the strap to a rising face, either Benjamin or Eugene, and have him lose it because of HHH interference.

build toward a slow break up with those two, eventually having one turn on the other.

but i fear the WWE will do one of their seemingly patented moves where they give a newcomer like Eugene a push, even have him get the rub from someone like the Rock, then push him off camera for a month...
16Farn
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      ID: 451044109
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 09:39
I don't see HHH costing Orton the title yet. If they are smart they will let it build even slower than that. Eugene would be an interesting choice but I would probably give it to Benjamin. You don't want to push Eugene too fast. The title won't get him over any more than he would normally anyway. Let him continue to do what he is doing and give the belt to Benjamin.

And kev, don't assume Kane won't take the strap briefly. This main event has been booked for a month. My guess is that the WWE is considering giving him the strap briefly if he chooses to try the Olympics. Its very late to make that committment but if he did the publicity he could draw for the company would be huge. And if he was the champ it would make it even bigger. You are probably right in assuming it won't happen but don't say never. Its Vince.

Oh, and I guess my Kane choice instead of Booker worked out well. I fell ass backwards into the right choice on that one.
17Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 11:06
LMAO....my two guys in the rumble, Hardy and Christian, are the two clowns that don't even make it to the Battle Royal? WTF?

Seriously, what happened to them?
18Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 11:17
That sucks, Species.

Hardy got beat up by Kane after the Kane/Venis match. JR said Christian was still nursing injuries from last weeks cage match with Y2J.
19Farn
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      ID: 451044109
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 11:32
Christian may actually be hurt. He skipped this weekend's house show with the same excuse. I wonder if he injured something last week.
20Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 13:44
Y2J looked legit hurt when his knee bounced off the ring steps..

I show up a minute late and didn't even see my boy Johnny Nitro... oh well. Did he just walk in and get tossed out?! lol...
21Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 14:42
from pwinsider

Christian has been out of action due to a sore lower back. Tyson Tomko took his place at the house shows and management feels he did very well from what I heard. Christian should be back in action in a week or two.

Matt Hardy continues to have a sore knee. Because of that, he has been used sparingly of late and booked for shorter time periods.
22Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, May 19, 2004, 11:48
lol......thanks Farn. Just another nail in my coffin.
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