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0 Subject: Week 8 Smackdown Points

Posted by: Farn
- Sustainer [451044109] Thu, May 20, 2004, 22:02

Name Tonight's Total          
             
Akio 5 5        
Big Show 0          
Bill Demott 0          
Billy Gunn 0          
Billy Kidman 5 5        
Booker T 32 2 30      
Bradshaw 44 5 2 2 25 10
Bubba Ray Dudley 35 25 10      
Charlie Haas 30 25 5      
Chavo Guerrero Jr. 17 2 15      
Chavo Guerrero Sr. 47 2 30 15    
D'von Dudley 35 25 10      
Danny Basham 0          
Dawn Marie 0          
Doug Basham 0          
Eddie Guerrero 29 5 2 12 10  
Funaki 17 2 15      
Hardcore Holly 0          
Jacqueline 0          
Jamie Noble 0          
John Cena 20 10 10      
Johnny Stamboli 12 12        
Josh Matthews 0          
Kenzo Suzuki 0          
Kurt Angle 10 5 5      
Luther Rains 0          
Mark Jindrak 0          
Matt Morgan 0          
Michael Cole 2 2        
Miss Jackie 5 5        
Mordechai 5 5        
Nunzio 12 12        
Orlando Jordan 0          
Paul Bearor 0          
Paul Heyman 0          
Paul London 0          
Renee Dupree 18 18        
Rey Mysterio 22 12 10      
Rhyno 0          
Rico 30 25 5      
Rikishi 0          
Rob Van Dam 22 12 10      
Sable 0          
Sakoda 0          
Scotty 2 Hotty 0          
Sean O'Haire 0          
Shaniqua 0          
Shannon Moore 0          
Spike Dudley 15 15        
Tazz 2 2        
Theodore Long 0          
Torrie Wilson 0          
Ultimo Dragon 0          
Undertaker 0          
Vince McMahon 0          
             
             
Tonight's Total Points 471          
1Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, May 20, 2004, 22:02
- Didn't give Dupree points when they showed him just before commercial backstage. He was just walking to the ring and never spoke in the 10 seconds he was on camera.

- Gave Kidman and Akio 5 points for getting pounded by Mordechai. I don't think the match ever started so it can't be a No Contest. Mordechai also got 5 for that piece.

- Did not give 2 points to Bradsahw for being shown getting his blood pressure checked. He said nothing and cut no promo. He did get 2 for the promo about his head getting cut and needing stitches.

- Cena did not have a prematch rap.

- Gave Cena 10 for keeping his belt. I assume keeping it while losing via countout still counts as a title defense.
2Mattinglyinthehall
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      Fri, May 21, 2004, 07:17
Bradshaw definitely deserves those two points for getting his blood pressure checked.

The Bell might have rung for Akio Vs Kidman. If so, thats 10 points each for them.

Haas and Rico beat FBI in a non-title match. If those 5 points each for them are for title defenses, the shouldn't apply.

3Mattinglyinthehall
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      Fri, May 21, 2004, 07:28
And again, with Dupree, in seasons past I believe we always scored anyone who was the focal point of a backstage camera shot, even if nothing was said. I think an example used once in the past was a scene where Trish Stratus was lacing up her boots right before a match. I think Dupree gets an extra two points also.
4Farn
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      ID: 451044109
      Fri, May 21, 2004, 08:40
I thought the debate on backstage ended with us concluding they had to actually do something. Just being there didn't give them points. I guess whatever we decide covers both Bradshaw and Dupree.

The bell ringing for Akio/Kidman I can't confirm at all. If anyone taped it that's probably the only way to know for sure.

And the non-title I can't confirm either. Neither site I check for recaps mentions it one way or the other. So we need video on that too.
5Mattinglyinthehall
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      Fri, May 21, 2004, 09:09
I'm certain that Haas/Rico vs FBI was non-title. PWScoops usually has pretty thorough recaps, I'll check it shortly about Akio vs Kidman.
6Mattinglyinthehall
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      Fri, May 21, 2004, 09:31
PWScoops has this:
Billy Kidman and Akio were in the midst of a match when Mordecai came to the ring and beat both of them up.

That would seem to indicate that the bell had rang.Here's what lordsofpain.net has:
Match 2: Billy Kidman vs. Akio

There was no match, because Mordecai appeared and destroyed both Akio & Kidman. I'm still not sold on the whole Mordecai character, but I promised that I would give it a chance until I see how he stands up in a long match situation.

Winner: No Contest


Saying that there was no match and then calling it a no contest is a contradiction. I'm really not sure if the bell rang. They were circling each other in the ring when Mordechi's music hit.

Given that we can't confirm it, I guess we should just leave it as it was originally scored?

Re the Bradshaw backstage stuff, what I think we agreed on was that a wrestler had to be a primary part of the scene in order to get points for it. If the camera was specifically on Bradshaw while he gets his bp taken, we give him the points. If he's getting his bp taken in the background while something else happens in the 'primary' foreground, Bradshaw gets no points.
7Species
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      Fri, May 21, 2004, 11:27
I watched the Akio/Kidman beginning - I concur with MITH that they started to circle around in the ring when Mordecai's music hit. I sincerely believe there was no bell. Side note: Cole sounded pretty lame trying to act surprised the Mordecai showed up.

I also agree JBL gets 2 for the bp getting checked. When you are the primary focus of a backstage camera shot, I think you get the points. Let's say Booker T was shown waiting in line to see the Dr. next while JBL was getting his bp checked, Booker falls into the "he was in the background and didn't say anything" mold. To that end, Dupree gets "I'm trying to look tough while I walk backstage" points.
8Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Fri, May 21, 2004, 13:42
Dupree and JBL earned the points. They did "say something" whether they opened their mouth or not and were the focal point of the scenes.

I agree that warrants points in those two situations.
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