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Subject: Season IV Waivers and Transactions Thread
Posted by: Mattinglyinthehall
- Leader [1629107] Fri, Aug 27, 2004, 10:18
I'm sure that I thought there was a good reason to have a seperate transaction thread, but it just seemed redundant. If anyone has any issue with combining the two, speak up and I'll delete this and we can have two seperate threads. I do think it would help us keep track of things if we try to keep discussion out of this thread. We should be using this space to make claims, post that claims have become official and announce trades. As in the past, after every successful waiver claim you must post the new updated waiver order and also your new roster. For every trade that is announced, all involved parties must confirm the trade and everyone's new rosters must be posted.
I think we should also use this space to post our current rosters with our team names as we open the new season.
Good luck to everyone (even Wiggs :) and welcome, Bond, to the league.
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| 80 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 08:00
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actually, i'm not being funny. Kev never finalized the claim, so as far as i'm concerned Dragon is still available. we've established pretty set rules in regards to waiver pick up to avoid confusion. it reminds me of the confusion involving Terrell Owens this off season. someone didn't dot their i's and cross their t's, and look what happened.
Claim Official -
Drop: Jimmy Snuka, Jr
Claim: Ultimo Dragon
Team Tag Team Tag Team Is The Snizzit (aka Team T-T-T-Tits)
Eugene
HBK
Paul London
Chavo Jr
Buh Buh Ray Dudley
Mike Bucci Nova Simon Dean
Ultimo Dragon
Gene Snisky
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| 81 | kev
ID: 43111845
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 11:17
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Did it say anywhere you have to post it? I totally forgot too, and basically, when I looked the other day and saw MITH so nicely had updated my roster in the Standing and Stats page, I figured it was all good....
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| 83 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 4494554
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 12:14
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we've established pretty set rules in regards to waiver pick up to avoid confusion.
Tree I think you're going to have to show us the rules we set that specifically said that a claim does not become official until the confirmation is made. I tend to think that, as you say, the rules regarding keeping up the thread are there to avoid confusion, not, as you also seem to say, for bureaucracy. In fact, to my knowledge, I don't believe we've ever voted on any issue specifically regarding posting our waiver claim confirmations. Such strict and important protocals that wasn't part of the initial rules would surely require a vote, wouldn't they?
As far as I'm concerned Dragon belongs to Kev but if you think the rules state otherwise then lets see what you're referring to.
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| 84 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 12:59
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i have no problem backing down on this, whatsoever.
i just think it's important that we follow protocol, as we've had confusion in the past when that didn't happen.
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| 85 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 4494554
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 13:22
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I agree, and Kev definitely should have posted his confirmation, his new roster and the new waiver priority. In fact he still hasn't done so in spite of posting here since the claim became official, so Kev, please take care of that.
We need this thread to be kept up accurately. I won't always ctch the roster changes so by having this thread up to speed it is more likely that I and others will catch my slips more quickly. Also, if we do make a mistake, this thread is important to be able to refer to to see where and when the mistake happened and what we need to do to fix it.
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| 86 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 189552213
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 18:35
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Seems to me there are two train of thoughts here:
1.) There should be a time limit for claiming a person AFTER the 24 hour time limit of claim notification has expired.
Now whether that be one hour, ten hours, one day or whatever---that is the issue here. If the person remains unclaimed AFTER the limit of whatever period we designate, then that superstar should be thrown back into the free agent mix once again and thereby starting the whole process over again. OR....
2.) We could just go ahead and automatically designate any claimed player as official AFTER the 24 hour period has elapsed. It's relatively easy to figure out and since computer access may be an issue from time to time, this would limit any form of miscommunication to a bare minimum.
I am leaning heavily toward position #2 but would be open to other ideas including but not limited to position #1 if warranted by popular opinion.
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| 87 | kev
ID: 43111845
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 19:09
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sorry guys!
Claim official
Claim: Ultimo Dragon
Waived: VKM
New Roster for Fozzy Keibler
Jericho
Mysterio
Lita
Keibler
Hurricane
Long
Cade
Dragon
New waiver priority:
New Priority:
1. Farn
2. Mike D
3. Species
4. Bond
5. wiggs
6. Tree
7. MITH
8. Goatlocker
9.Great One
10. kev
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| 88 | Great One
ID: 41962410
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 22:02
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if you win the claim - it should be all yours... granted, I have no life so I always get to formally post everything for my team, but understandably everyone can't check in and update... hell I can even post an official claims for people if they don't appear for a few days afterwards...
so in summation... you win the claim - they are yours IMO.
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| 89 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 22:25
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Claim official.
Bent over a Barrel
Chris Benoit
Edge
JBL
Nidia
Eric Bischoff
Carmella
Steve Austin
Mordecai
New waiver priority:
1. Farn
2. Mike D
3. Bond
4. wiggs
5. Tree
6. MITH
7. Goatlocker
8.Great One
9. kev
10. Species
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| 90 | Great One@Work
ID: 199262112
Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 16:37
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waive Jazz
add Aaron Aguilera
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| 91 | Great One
ID: 179472819
Thu, Oct 28, 2004, 21:55
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waive Jazz
add Aaron Aguilera
Another new
Natural Born Thrillers
Christian
DVon Dudley
Matt Hardy
Molly Holly
Rodney Mack
Mark Magnus
Stamboli
Aaron Aguilera/Jesus
New waiver priority:
1. Farn
2. Mike D
3. Bond
4. wiggs
5. Tree
6. MITH
7. Goatlocker
8. kev
9. Species
10. Great One
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| 92 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 11:38
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Waive: Johnny Jeter
Claim: Doug Basham
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| 93 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 11:39
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Waive: Billy Gunn
Claim: Jazz
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| 94 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 21:31
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claim Muhammad Hassan
waive the rock
I dont think he is on any teams, if so i will delete this post.
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| 95 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 23:10
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Man........what a baaaaaaaaaaaad time to blow my waiver priority.
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| 96 | Mattinglyinthemall
ID: 4494554
Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 07:05
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Wiggs, I believe Muhammad Hassan is Mark Magnus, whom Great One picked up in post 52.
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| 98 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 12:08
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Claims official:
Waive: Johnny Jeter
Claim: Doug Basham
Waive: Billy Gunn
Claim: Jazz
This Is Extreme
John Cena
Booker T
Eddie Guerrero
Billy Kidman
Carly Colon
Doug Basham
Hardcore Holly
Jazz
New waiver priority:
1. Farn
2. Bond
3. wiggs
4. Tree
5. MITH
6. Goatlocker
7. kev
8. Species
9. Great One
10. Mike D
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| 99 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 16:01
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ok, sorry about that claim GO,
It is hard for me when I have no idea who people are when they change their names.
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| 100 | Great One@Work
ID: 59946299
Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 16:29
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especially when you go from Mark Magnus to an middle eastern name.Shawn Daviari is the other guy owned by MITH FYI., So three guys with multiple names listed here recently debuting.(assuming we already know Simon Dean and Carlito).
ALL claimed already.
Mark Magnus = Muhammed Hussan
Shawn Daviari = Khosrow Daivari
Aaron Aguilera = Jesus
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| 102 | Great One@Work
ID: 59946299
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 11:49
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drop Stamboli
add Chris Masters
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| 103 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 12:12
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Waive: Jazz
Claim: Miss Jackie
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| 104 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 12:47
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Drop: Nidia
Claim: Danny Basham
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| 105 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 2824911
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 12:48
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This thread has the potential to get hairy this week so lets all try to be dilligent in keeping it accurate and up to date.
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| 106 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 12:50
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Secondary claim if my primary claim for Basham gets trumped:
Drop: Nidia
Claim: Miss Jackie
If I get Basham than from my POV this claim disappears....but I want the secondary claim on record so I don't forget and to be fair to Mike D as well....kind of like multiple claims on football waivers.
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| 107 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 12:53
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what's the rule on 106? do we allow moves like this?
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| 108 | Great One@Work
ID: 59946299
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 13:19
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I for one - am gonna delete anything I have in here thats junk to clean it out. I think you can put multiple contingency claims as long as its spelled out simply enough.
drop Rodney Mack
add Josh Matthews
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| 109 | Tree
ID: 76471215
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 13:34
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Drop: Jimmy Snuka, Jr.
Claim: Big Booty Alexis Laree
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| 110 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 2824911
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 13:50
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I think we decided contingency claims are fine.
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| 111 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Nov 04, 2004, 14:40
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Is her booty that big? She looked fairly lean in the OVW pic I just checked out ;-)
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| 129 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 12:13
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Gentlemen (and in this thread, I'll construe that term loosely):
A programming glitch of unidentified cause resulted in most of this thread getting vaporized last night. I was only able to recover the thread as of Novbember 4th. Hopefully, the lost material is not critical, although if it is, I can see what it will take to reclaim it from my hosting service's backup archives as of a more recent date. (Supposedly, I have that ability, but I have never needed to use it, so I don't yet know the process.)
This morning, I was fortunately able to reproduce the problem on this thread, and have made a programming change which seems to have worked. Unfortunately, I'm still not sure what went wrong. Additionally, I implemented a more thorough backup process. If anyone notices another problem (and it will be very obvious) when a reply is made to any thread, please report it ASAP. At a minimum, I should be able to quickly recover just about everything that is lost. Hopefully, I'll also be able to diagnose the source of the problem.
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| 130 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 12:18
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As an "ounce of prevention" measure, I'd suggest that you open a new thread to continue with this discussion.
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| 131 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 13:30
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Lol----definitely not the land of extraordinary gentlemen.
Unfortunately, we need the lost entries to determine our waiver priority------unless we can recreate it. For instance, we all know Great One is 12. I think I was around 8. Not sure.
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| 132 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 13:32
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I'm #1 :)
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| 133 | Tree
ID: 510231619
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 13:54
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and i still proclaim:
Waive: my entire team
Claim: The Indiana Pacers
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| 134 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 14:07
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and I still claim:
Waive: my entire team
Claim: The Detroit Piston fans
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| 135 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 14:54
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i was 2
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| 136 | Great One
ID: 010112015
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 16:15
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my last two claims were
Mack>Shannon Moore
Masters>Viscera
Natural Born Thrillers
Christian
DVon
Matt Hardy
Hussan
Jesus
Molly
Shannon Moore
Viscera
I am last in line - 10th.
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| 137 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 17:49
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I believe I worked my way back up to 5th or 6th
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| 138 | GoatLocker
ID: 427272213
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 19:33
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I was 4 if I remember right.
Cliff
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| 139 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 4494554
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 19:39
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I think I was behind Wiggs. No time to work on this now, my Dad's in town. I should get the S&S out tomorrow sometime. Once we get the order straightened out we should start a new thread.
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| 140 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 461048200
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 21:00
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I think I'm 9th! WooHoo! ;)
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| 141 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 21:45
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We could always invoke Bond's Rule for one week only. Or not. ;)
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| 142 | slosh23
ID: 317242216
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 22:14
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Ooh! Ooh! now is my chance...
I claim the fans at Auburn Hills. Actually give me 7 of the fans, and Lillian Garcia. (grrrrrr!!!)
Kinda funny that Guru makes the joke about gentlemen here. I think this is one of the most interesting and best run leagues on the site. Its cool that mid season you guys can decide to tweak the league, discuss it and then vote on it. I don't see that kind of cooperation anywhere else.
(Plus I don't think angrylilpup comes thru here, so that definitely makes this one of the more civilized forums)
Back to the shadows for me now....
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| 143 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 22:23
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You just made our "on call" list in case we need another member in the future. You're in trouble now.....though Lillian would be a beautiful start to your team. ;)
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| 144 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 461048200
Sat, Nov 20, 2004, 23:56
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Thanks Slosh....appreciate the kind words.
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| 145 | Tree
ID: 510231619
Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 00:09
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Slosh - thanks. i think i speak for everyone in the league - especially those of us who have been around since day one - as we've worked hard to make the league as competitive, fun, and fair as possible.
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| 146 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 08:13
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Unfortunately, I cannot get a more recent backup of this thread, so what you see if what you get. Sorry about that.
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| 147 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 461048200
Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 08:29
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Thanks anyway Guru. Us "gentlemen" will make it through just fine. ;)
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| 148 | Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 09:09
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We'll even invite you to our next tea and book reading event.
Scheduled for 2014.
;)
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| 149 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 4494554
Sun, Nov 21, 2004, 11:07
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OK here's the order on Tues Nov 2 from post 98:
1. Farn
2. Bond
3. wiggs
4. Tree
5. MITH
6. Goatlocker
7. kev
8. Species
9. Great One
10. Mike D
Two days later, the following claims were made in this order:
102 Great One@Work
drop Stamboli
add Chris Masters
(went through)
103 Mike D
Waive: Jazz
Claim: Miss Jackie
(went through)
104 Species
Drop: Nidia
Claim: Danny Basham
(went through)
106 Species (secondary claim in case Basham claim doesn't pass):
Drop: Nidia
Claim: Miss Jackie
(didn't go through)
108 Great One@Work
drop Rodney Mack
add Josh Matthews
(didn't go through)
109 Tree
Drop: Jimmy Snuka, Jr.
Claim: Big Booty Alexis Laree
I'm pretty sure Great One's claim for Josh Matthews was trumped by the following:
Bond:
claim Josh Matthews
waive Gail Kim
And I think it was after that transaction that Great One made the following claims:
waive Mack
claim Shannon Moore
waive Masters
claim Viscera
So here's the order I have:
1. Farn
2. wiggs
3. MITH
4. Goatlocker
5. kev
6. Mike D
7. Species
8. Tree
9. Bond
10. Great One
I'll start a new thread. Everyone please post your current roster in the new thread.
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