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Posted by: Farn - Sustainer [451044109] Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 23:12
Name Tonight's Total        
           
Al Snow 0        
A-Train 0        
Batista 27 5 2 10 10
Chris Benoit 35 30 5    
Chris Jericho 30 5 25    
Chris Nowinski 0        
Christian 17 5 12    
Chuck Palumbo 0        
Edge 0        
Eric Bischoff 9 2 5 2  
Eugene Dinsmore 0        
Gail Kim 17 5 12    
Garrison Cade 0        
Ivory 0        
Jacqueline 0        
Jazz 0        
Jerry Lawler 2 2      
Jim Ross 2 2      
John Heidenreich 0        
Johnathan Coachman 5 5      
Johnny Nitro 0        
Josh Matthews 0        
Kane 19 2 2 10 5
Lance Storm 0        
Lillian Garcia 0        
Lita 12 2 5 5  
Mark Henry 0        
Matt Hardy 0        
Maven 0        
Mick Foley 0        
Molly Holly 17 5 12    
Nidia 30 5 25    
Randy Orton 33 5 18 10  
Rhyno 0        
Ric Flair 27 5 2 10 10
Rob Conway 15 15      
Rodney Mack 0        
Rosey 0        
Scott Steiner 0        
Shawn Michaels 30 5 25    
Shelton Benjamin 5 5      
Stacey Keibler 30 5 25    
Steven Richards 0        
Sylvan Grenier 5 5      
Tajiri 0        
Test 0        
The Hurricane 0        
The Rock 0        
Tommy Dreamer 0        
Triple H 27 5 2 10 10
Trish Stratus 17 5 12    
Tyson Tomko 17 5 12    
Val Venis 0        
Victoria 30 5 25    
Vince McMahon 5 5      
William Regal 5 5      
Gene Snitsky 10 10      
  0        
  0        
           
Tonight's Total Points 478        
1Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 23:13 		- Gave Stacey and Molly 5 points for their danceoff as a promo. Not really a match. If you disagree please say so. The other 4 all got 5 points for coming down and mixing it up.

- Gave Bischoff 5 points for his titantron match announcement since he addressed the ring area.

- Gave 5 points each to Tomko, Christian, HBK, and Y2J for their arguing before their impromptu match.

- Didn't give points to the Raw Divas. I am thinking next week we need to do that. Do we have to go back and give her (whoever wins) points for the weeks since the season started?

- Decided to give Kane and Lita 5 points for the post match promo. Only seems right considering it took an extra full segment.

- Gave Orton points for a singles match and HHH, Batista, and Flair points for a tag match. Just seemed fair.

- The bell rang for a DQ in the Main Event. It was never announced but clearly that was what referee Jack Doane was calling for. If somebody disagrees please say so.
2wiggs
      ID: 507593021
      Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 23:14 		i would say everything seems good. Only question I have, which really has nothing to do with this show, but does orton get turn points yet?
3Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 06:58 		I think last night was the first time we had to really consider it. It was the first time that established faces willingly teamed up with him, not that hat should be the standard for everyone. The only other time he helped a face was during the Eugene/HHH match, but that was clearly more for the purpose of antagonizing HHH. Even tho the whole internet has been discussing his turn for a while, it hasn't really happened yet, imo. I'd say that if he makes nice or teams up with some faces next week, we give it to him then. The other guy we should be watching for a turn is Edge, tho with his new injury that could all change.
4Tree
      ID: 37818819
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 07:10 		HEY! HEY! HEY!

Simon Dean has the best promo the WWE has done in a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time, and he doesn't get any points for it????
5Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 13:02 		I guess I'll look at the bright side......Nidia is getting points out of nowhere while Edge sits out......unfortunately she ain't gonna keep it up for 6-8 weeks.
6Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 13:45 		um. so does Dean get points?
7Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 13:51 		Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was decided early in Season 1 that we would not give points for taped promos.
8wiggs
      ID: 507593021
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 13:59 		MITH i believe you are correct.
9Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:21 		wow. the greatest taped promo EVER in the WWE, and no points.

um, you do realize that just about every promo not done in the ring is taped, right?
10Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:29 		I'm surprised that something like this would come up now. We give 2 points for the backstage stuff, which I think we know might sometimes be pretaped, and 5 points for the in-ring stuff. If you look, Brock Lesnar never got any points for his 'next big thing promos. Batista and Heidenreich never got points for theirs. Kenzo Suzuki and Carlito Colon never got any points for their pre-debut taped promos. HBK, Big Show and Shelton Benjamin nevr got points for their 'coming back soon' promos and Los Guerreros never got points for their 'Lie Cheat Steal' promos. I think we've been very consistant about this.
11Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:36 		its definately been consistent with any show i have taped. i know we had this discussion when suzuki's aired and it was clarified then.

if that something people want to see changed in the scoring we could put it to a vote. i would prefer it stay like it is but if others feel differently then lets put it to a vote.
12Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:53 		I haven't even asked about Colon, because I thought that was the case (though admittedly not 100% sure).
13Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:53 		I think Tree is just excited.
14Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 14:56 		oh yea. i'm not complaining. i understand those to be the rules. phooey!

i just have a feeling i have this season's eugene, albeit, the heel version.

phooey! :o)
15Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 2824911
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 15:16 		From the way they'd been describing him on the internet house show reports and from the old Bucci pictures I've seen, I was expecting a skinny guy with with an afro, ala Richard Simmons. I was actually a bit disappointed.
16Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 15:25 		He's definitely bulked up.
17Great One@Home
      ID: 18743207
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 15:38 		anyone call the number at the end of the ad?
18Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 17:33 		actually Bucci has been that big for a couple years now. he was bulking up at the tail end of ECW, and once he got the run in OVW, he really got serious.

as for Simon Dean's message - from my buddy Mike Johnson at pwinsider, this is what you heard if you called:

""Thanks for calling the Simon System. You're making the first step in changing your fat, lazy lifestyle. The Simon System is a revolutionary, proprietary, homeopathic breakthrough, designed by me, Simon Dean. I've studied and researched the most efficient way to melt away the mountains of fat stored on your pathetic body. By ordering my product, your body will change on a molecular level. Now, as expected, my operators are very busy helping fat people just like you. While you're waiting, let me tell you more about me. Well, I was born to help the people I refer to as the fat masses, like you. Later in life, I went on...."

At that point, the voicemail beeps and you can leave a message. "
19kev
      ID: 3155515
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 22:03 		You know, with all this "Hurricane" action going on that is taking up all the big news, you figure that "The Hurricane" would show up.
20Tree
      ID: 37818819
      Tue, Sep 14, 2004, 22:29 		by Hurricane, you mean "Hurricane" John Walters, Ring of Honor Pure Champion.

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