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Subject: Poker Part V
Posted by: ChicagoTRS
- Leader [566152116] Wed, Feb 22, 2006, 15:47
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| 177 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 16:42
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i agree it is a string bet, I was playing at turning stone casino last night. I was involved in a big hand and I raised 20 dollars after the river, my opponent then called and raised 200 more. There was 180 in the pot and I folded my straight, fearing he hit a flush. After agruing with the dealer and the floor manager for 20 minutes I was told that was a legal play. To make matters worse he showed off his hand and it was simply a bluff. Needless to say I left there VERY angry.
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| 178 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 16:45
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Playing live limit poker around here, it would be string bet only if it was accompanied by two seperate motions, one to bet and one to raise, I think. If he said "call and raise" and put out the call and raise in one motion with all the chips in his hand, nobody would bat an eye, I don't think. Even with true string bets (two separate sets of chips crossing the line), if no other player calls him on it, the dealer won't (and can't in most houses.). They watch the chips.
It's a bit different in tourney play, where words trump actions. It would probably be called a string bet if you said call then said raise in that circumstance.
Moral: ask the dealer at whatever house you are playing in.
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| 179 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 16:46
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You wuz robbed.
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| 180 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 16:52
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Even with true string bets (two separate sets of chips crossing the line), if no other player calls him on it, the dealer won't (and can't in most houses.).
If verbal declarations are accepted as binding, then they're both "true string bets". In tournament play, words don't trump actions in any way, shape, or form. If a player makes a forward motion with all of his chips and a split second later says "call", then he'll be all-in regardless of his verbal declaration. If the action and the declaration are reversed, then it's a call.
If he said "call and raise" and put out the call and raise in one motion with all the chips in his hand, nobody would bat an eye, I don't think.
I wouldn't disagree. It's all a matter of how rigid the players, dealers, and bosses want to be. Frankly, I would prefer they be really rigid. If you give an inch to poker players, they'll take a mile and push it as far as they can.
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| 181 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 16:59
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In tourney play around here words do trump actions with regard to string bets. If you say "raise", and first put in a call bet, then follow it with more chips, it's perfectly legit.
Your example is a bit different, Sludge, and I agree. Any chips that cross the line are committed to the pot, but that has little to do with string bets.
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| 182 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 17:54
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In tourney play around here words do trump actions with regard to string bets. If you say "raise", and first put in a call bet, then follow it with more chips, it's perfectly legit.
Because that's not a stringer anywhere.
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| 183 | beastiemiked
ID: 12043123
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 19:21
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I wouldn't say he was robbed. The guy obviously meant to go all in but maybe was not familiar with string bets. If it was all in one breath then I wouldn't be aggressively headhunting the guy down for string betting. The reason string bets are illegal is so people don't use them to gain an edge, in this case the guy was obviously not using it to gain an edge.
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| 184 | Sludge
ID: 14411118
Wed, Apr 26, 2006, 22:25
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bmd -
Broken record alert. Please apply this to your posting as well:
I wouldn't disagree. It's all a matter of how rigid the players, dealers, and bosses want to be. Frankly, I would prefer they be really rigid. If you give an inch to poker players, they'll take a mile and push it as far as they can.
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| 185 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 50333110
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 08:28
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That is a string bet...probably an honest mistake but you simply cannot say "I call and raise"...should just be "raise".
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| 186 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 15:33
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here is my dilemma i have been having a lot lately of:
I'll go all in with the best hand a lot of times before all 5 cards are on the table and I'll lose a few of them on the river or turn etc...
So my question is:
1.) should i not go all in until all 5 cards are on the table in case for instance that K comes up on the river, then i can fold???
2.) or if i think i can get the guy to call me all in with me ahead should i try to go all in!?
I could of just called all the way to the end before i go all in, but it seems good to go all in before..
ADVICE!?
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| 187 | Dedey14
ID: 390142811
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 17:56
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It all depends on what the situation is(chips stacks, position, etc) But if you feel you have the best hand and make your opponen tcommit all their chips w/ the worst hand you've done your job. Of course you'll lose every once in a while(that's poker) but in the long run you will make money.
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| 188 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 10:03
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If you can get all of your opponents money in the pot when you have the odds to win the hand you should do it nearly every time...the only case where this might not be the right play is in a tournament situation where you will be eliminated if your opponent catches his draw.
Try not thinking about the results of one hand...think about the longterm results of a play...if you are constantly getting your money in as a 70% favorite...sure you are going to lose 3 out of 10 times but in the longrun you should be up a lot of money. Waiting for all the cards to be dealt before putting your opponent all-in is a mistake because if the person was on a draw they will likely fold on the river if they missed their draw and you are losing out on money you could have collected if you bet the turn.
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| 189 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 11:08
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last night it happened to me 2 times lost about 400
I have A 9 he has A Q
I put him all in on the turn after he kept reraising me
A 4 9 7
ALL IN for about 130 and he the river is
Q and i lose..
Then a minute later i was on tilt
I had 4 5 same guy has Q 10
nothing. i was big blind
the flop 4 10 5 rainbow
he raises me like 2 dollars and I was mad and i go all in
On the turn he gets another 10 on the river and I lose another 240...
not sure why this keeps happening. is online poker rigged?
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| 190 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 11:11
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luckily i had one big break last night
when i hit a flush and the guy hit a lower flush and i won a big pot...
but a minute later i lose it all when i have a nuts straigth on the guy calls my all in with flush draw and gets the flush...
now if i were to wait until all 5 cards are on the table each time i could fold...
oh well.
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| 191 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 11:15
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oh ya and i lost about 100 on another hand where i had AA
i am playing .50/1.00 tables
5 guys are in for about 2 dollars apiece and so i go all in with about 100.
2 people call
1.) AK
2.) 44
the 2.) gets trips.. lol throughout last night i only ended up losing 200 dollars but damn so many chances to come up big and I lost them all.
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| 192 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 11:22
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Now those are the some of the numbers but feeling seems to have a big effect on me.
Does anyone else feel like crap after they lose and they don't want to tell anyone about it. Everytime i lose money i feel depressed and I don't tell any of my friends that i lost money, especially the girl i am dating.
It's a strange feeling afterwards.. Does anyone else get like this. I bent my crappiest golf club in half.
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| 193 | ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 16:53
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That could turn into a huge hole in your game...going on tilt after losing on a bad beat or two can cost you a lot more money than just the money lost on that hand. You would be best to forget the hand(s) and continue to play your best poker. I understand it is easier said than done...I struggle with it myself at times...it really is just a matter of understanding that when you have the best hand and there are cards to come sometimes you will lose even when you are a big favorite...if you are a 80/20 favorite when you get your money in that still means 1 out of 5 times you are going to lose the hand...when it happens understand it and put it out of your mind and realize you did the right thing getting your money in the pot when you did...the other person just got lucky. Avoid thinking that you need to try and get lucky or it is your turn to get lucky. I would say most players struggle with this so your are not alone...
The reason you are depressed is probably because you realize you played like a jackass and lost money because of it...or you are playing with money you can't afford to lose. Simple solutions...don't tilt...do not play with rent money...establish a bankroll to play with. You need to realize the best poker players in the world still lose sometimes...but the best players don't give away any more than they have to when they are losing...they still continue to play great poker. Sometimes the cards just deal you a few "coolers" or bad beats and there is nothing you can do about it except lose your money. If you know you cannot control yourself after a bad beat force yourself to quit the game.
So you were down $200 on the night...how much did you lose because of tilt? If you didn't tilt you probably would have ended up a winner even after the bad beats. There are a few players I play a lot of hours with that early on in a game I will chase and pay to chase against on purpose because I know if I give them a bad beat their game completely changes and I have a good shot at a lot more money...don't be one of those players...thinking in baseball terms try to have a Closers mentality...forget about the last game where you blew the save got to go in there the next game with your best stuff.
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| 194 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Apr 28, 2006, 17:10
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You need to roll with the punches. Last night I had:
AA vs. QQ Raise preflop, he calls. Flop of J92 rainbow, I bet, he moves all-in, call. He hits a Q on the river, I'm down 100$.
AA vs. 44 (44 was a real loose-agressive type too, view flop over 50%) I raise, he re-raises preflop, I re-raise, he calls. Flop of 7/4/2. (ugh) After the preflop raising, no way I'm putting him on pocket 7's or 4's, so I lose another 100$ in a raising war on the flop.
But I kept my head, and won 150$ of it back by just playing solid. No one big hand (think my biggest was 50$ on a flopped flush), just taking pots nobody wanted, taking a small 20$ with top pair, etc. You just can't tilt. Pokertracker has me at +1,798$ with AA still, despite those two losses.
Longterm, getting your money in while ahead will pay off. Which is probably why I dislike tournies. Not every hand is equal, so a set early on isn't nearly as valuable as a set late in a tourney. A bad beat in the 1st half-hour is just a 'meh' to me. A bad beat with 20 people left is just devastating. I'm not quite ready to live with that yet.
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| 195 | Deadeye
ID: 481032311
Mon, May 01, 2006, 08:56
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what is poker tracker?
I won about 300 dollars the last 2 days.
took this one guy out of 70 after i chased a flush... he usually is pretty rock solid but i gave him a huge beat....he left the table and every table i tried to play with him and get in position he would leave.
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| 196 | Sludge
ID: 11042612
Mon, May 01, 2006, 11:34
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Did you have odds, or was it really just a chase?
If it was an actual chase, seems odd that he wouldn't be chomping at the bit to play more with you. I love when people chase out their flushes and straights heads-up for pot-sized bets. Bring 'em on, I say!
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| 197 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Sun, May 07, 2006, 14:51
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Such a fun hand earlier today against another Gurupie. (I'm skankboy1)
*******
Stage #355475113: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2006-05-07 14:42:32 (ET)
Table: MIDVALE DR. (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - PACK32 ($63.75 in chips)
Seat 9 - 99MAVERIK99 ($313.36 in chips)
Seat 1 - SKANKBOY1 ($197.50 in chips)
Seat 2 - VLACO ($96.90 in chips)
Seat 3 - RAST ($96.20 in chips)
Seat 4 - FR0B0YZ0R ($50.80 in chips)
99MAVERIK99 - Posts small blind $0.50
SKANKBOY1 - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SKANKBOY1 [4s As]
VLACO - Folds
RAST - Folds
FR0B0YZ0R - Folds
PACK32 - Folds
99MAVERIK99 - Raises $4.50 to $5
SKANKBOY1 - Calls $4
*** FLOP *** [6d Ad 4c]
99MAVERIK99 - Bets $8
SKANKBOY1 - Raises $16 to $16
99MAVERIK99 - Calls $8
*** TURN *** [6d Ad 4c] [Ac]
99MAVERIK99 - Checks
SKANKBOY1 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [6d Ad 4c Ac] [10c]
99MAVERIK99 - Bets $55
SKANKBOY1 - Raises $110 to $110
99MAVERIK99 - Calls $55
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SKANKBOY1 - Shows [4s As] (Full house, aces full of fours)
99MAVERIK99 - Mucks
SKANKBOY1 Collects $259 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($262) | Rake ($3)
Board [6d Ad 4c Ac 10c]
Seat 1: SKANKBOY1 (big blind) won Total ($259) HI:($259) with Full house, aces full of fours [4s As - P:As,B:Ad,B:Ac,P:4s,B:4c]
Seat 2: VLACO Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: RAST Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: FR0B0YZ0R Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: PACK32 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: 99MAVERIK99 (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [5c 7c]
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| 198 | swami
ID: 60391022
Mon, May 08, 2006, 19:47
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The worst hand of poker I've ever seen.
PokerStars Game #4874222048: Tournament #24233249, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/05/08 - 19:39:39 (ET)
Table '24233249 10' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: CoachMoss (710 in chips)
Seat 2: duncsharp (770 in chips)
Seat 3: tihswa (1665 in chips)
Seat 4: DaSwam (1105 in chips)
Seat 5: MadMat^222 (2565 in chips)
Seat 6: DA H.N.I.C. (1200 in chips)
Seat 7: Dagoepampan (980 in chips)
Seat 8: cotton318 (3190 in chips)
Seat 9: saint75 (1950 in chips)
Dagoepampan: posts small blind 25
cotton318: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DaSwam [7h 6h]
saint75: folds
CoachMoss: calls 50
duncsharp: folds
tihswa: raises 50 to 100
DaSwam: folds
MadMat^222: calls 100
DA H.N.I.C.: calls 100
Dagoepampan: folds
cotton318: calls 50
CoachMoss: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [7c 8d 3s]
cotton318: checks
CoachMoss: bets 200
tihswa: calls 200
MadMat^222: folds
DA H.N.I.C.: folds
cotton318: folds
*** TURN *** [7c 8d 3s] [Qh]
CoachMoss: bets 410 and is all-in
tihswa: calls 410
*** RIVER *** [7c 8d 3s Qh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CoachMoss: shows [Js 9c] (a pair of Threes)
tihswa: shows [5h Ts] (a pair of Threes - lower kicker)
CoachMoss collected 1745 from pot
DaSwam said, "???"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1745 | Rake 0
Board [7c 8d 3s Qh 3h]
Seat 1: CoachMoss showed [Js 9c] and won (1745) with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: duncsharp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tihswa showed [5h Ts] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: DaSwam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MadMat^222 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: DA H.N.I.C. (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Dagoepampan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: cotton318 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: saint75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Anyone seen worse?
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| 199 | DWetzel
ID: 563201922
Mon, May 15, 2006, 21:54
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*sigh*
I hate poker. I'm swearing off the heads up matches for a while after this one. Guy likes to stab at a lot of pots when he senses weakness, hence the flop check:
PokerStars Game #4948010280: Tournament #24814502, $5.00+$0.25 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level II (10/20) - 2006/05/15 - 21:42:48 (ET)
Table '24814502 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DWetzel (1390 in chips)
Seat 2: carolinakyle (1610 in chips)
carolinakyle: posts small blind 10
DWetzel: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DWetzel [6s 2d As Kc]
carolinakyle: raises 40 to 60
DWetzel: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Ad Kh Kd]
DWetzel: checks
carolinakyle: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad Kh Kd] [4c]
DWetzel: bets 40
carolinakyle: raises 200 to 240
DWetzel: raises 260 to 500
carolinakyle: raises 1050 to 1550 and is all-in
DWetzel: calls 830 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ad Kh Kd 4c] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DWetzel: shows [6s 2d As Kc] (HI: a full house, Kings full of Aces)
carolinakyle: shows [4s 4d 2c Ah] (HI: four of a kind, Fours)
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| 200 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Tue, May 16, 2006, 00:03
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Fun little hand...almost folded preflop...
Game: 794162849: Table: Crazy For You
Normal Table No Limit 5.00/10.00
Rake: 3.00
Seat: 1 bengali1
Seat: 2 _The_Rake_ (Dealer)
Seat: 3 JACOBBENJ
Seat: 4 Wilbur45
Seat: 5 tuffnutts
Seat: 6 MactanTRS
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OpeningBetRound
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JACOBBENJ : Posts small blind 5.00
Wilbur45 : Posts big blind 10.00
tuffnutts : Calls for 10.00
MactanTRS : Raises for 40.00
bengali1 : Calls for 40.00
_The_Rake_ : Went all-in 331.75
JACOBBENJ : Folds
Wilbur45 : Calls for 321.75
tuffnutts : Folds
MactanTRS : Calls for 291.75
bengali1 : Folds
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Flop: QD, 6S, 7S
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Wilbur45 : Bets 75.00
MactanTRS : Raises for 150.00
Wilbur45 : Calls for 75.00
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Turn: QD, 6S, 7S, JH
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Wilbur45 : Checks
MactanTRS : Went all-in 386.91
Wilbur45 : Calls for 386.91
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River: QD, 6S, 7S, JH, 7D
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Showdown
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_The_Rake_ [ 7S, 7D, AD, KH, QD - One Pair ]
Wilbur45 [ 10S, 10D, 7S, 7D, QD - Two Pair ]
MactanTRS [ QD, QH, QC, 7S, 7D - Fullhouse ]
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Result
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JACOBBENJ Mucked Cards
Wilbur45 Showed Cards
tuffnutts Mucked Cards
MactanTRS Showed Cards (Winning) 2121.07
bengali1 Mucked Cards
_The_Rake_ Showed Cards
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Community Cards
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[ QD, 6S, 7S, JH, 7D ]
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Players Cards
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JACOBBENJ [ -, - ]
Wilbur45 [ 10S, 10D ]
tuffnutts [ -, - ]
MactanTRS [ QH, QC ]
bengali1 [ -, - ]
_The_Rake_ [ AD, KH ]
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| 201 | RebelFan42
ID: 183552718
Thu, May 18, 2006, 17:42
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Don't know if anyone here uses any rake back calculators but I just wanted to give a heads up to all in case you do
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1963649,00.asp
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| 202 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Sat, May 27, 2006, 14:34
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Washingtonians beware, play on-line for money and you are a FELON!
Well, this is aburd beyond measure. Welcome to the world of the marijuana smoker.
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| 203 | THK
ID: 244532623
Sat, May 27, 2006, 16:50
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Pocket Ks are my favorite hand live.............definitely not anymore online.
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| 204 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Tue, May 30, 2006, 11:14
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Brag Post:
I'm in, baby! Yesterday I played in the Stars 33 rebuy 1 seat WSOP guarantee tourney. I weaved through the field of 240+ and took down the whole thing. I'll be one of the 8000 or so degenerates looking to take down the 2006 WSOP Main Event.
Stars is hooking up all their qualifiers with free accomodations from 7/27-8/4. If any of you are out there during that time we'll have to get together for a drink, assuming I don't luckbox my way past day 3+.
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| 205 | weykool
ID: 44211612
Tue, May 30, 2006, 11:30
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Congrats Beast.
Well done.
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| 206 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, May 30, 2006, 12:01
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Sweet!
Good luck, Beastie.
There are a couple of local houses around here that offer a seat. My recent run (2 1st and a 3rd in my last 4 tourneys) is starting to get me pondering taking a shot at 2007. That said, I need a lot more practice and need to do a lot more reading to even have a slim shot.
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| 207 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, May 30, 2006, 12:15
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Nice beastie! We'll be rooting for ya. Any memorable hands in the qualifier? You win lots of coin flips? Or just real solid play?
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| 208 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Tue, May 30, 2006, 12:23
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Great bmd! You will have to keep us updated throughout and after the tournament. My eye is on 2008! ;-)
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| 209 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 30, 2006, 12:28
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Congrats bmd!!
I can't wait for Norman Chad to punk you out on the ESPN telecast ;-)
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| 210 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Tue, May 30, 2006, 15:49
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Nice beastie! We'll be rooting for ya. Any memorable hands in the qualifier? You win lots of coin flips? Or just real solid play?
About 120 players left, I have an average stack. Pick up JhJs in MP, raise 3x BB. BB calls. Flop comes AsQs7d. He checks, I cbet(about 2/3 of the pot) hoping to fold any hand worse than a pair of aces, he calls.
Turn Ts, giving me the royal flush draw. He checks which to me is a big sign of weakness as the only way he's checking here as a trap is if he has the Ks. I bet again leaving enough behind where I have to call a push but can fold if he just calls and the river bricks. He calls.
River Ks, my gin card. He checks and I bet about 2/3 of my remaining chips hoping he has a lower spade. He calls. I flip over my royal flush and he goes ballistic. Come to find out he called me with KhKd. Pretty well confirmed my suspicion that the tourney was soft.
After that, nothing too memorable happened(picked up 2 decent sized pots with AK and had AA hold up against another big stack's all in) until the final table bubble. With 11 left(places 2-10 paid $650), I'm UTG and am #2 in chips, pick up AhQh. I raise 3x BB, folded around to SB who is #1 in chips, he calls. BB has about half as many chips as me and reraises. The SB and I had been pretty active stealing blinds so I knew BB wasn't only making a reraise here with monsters, so I shoved and SB folded but BB instacalled. He flips over KsKh so I'm in pretty bad shape. Flop comes Jd Kd 4c. The ten comes on the turn giving me the straight and the river blanks. I take down a monster pot and have a nice chip lead going into the final table.
Final table wasn't too exciting. Had a pretty bad beat with 6 left when I had AK and got all my chips in on a AK7 flop only to see my opponent runner runner a flush with AT. Other than that my hands held up against the shorties and I did a fair number on out playing the other big stacks.
When it finally got heads up I had a huge chip advantage and my opponent was playing way too weak with only around 12 BB's. I whittled his stack down to about 5 BB's and open pushed from the SB with 4d7d(the guy was playing way too tight and was probably only calling with top 20%), he called with KdJh. Flop comes 356 rainbow and boom I'm headed to Vegas.
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| 211 | Seattle Zen
ID: 46315247
Tue, May 30, 2006, 17:34
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Congrats, BMD
That said, I'm surprised that there wasn't more said about the fact that playing poker on-line in the state of Washington is about to become a felony. Is it a felony in the states you live in? Do you not care?
Where is the outrage?
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| 212 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, May 30, 2006, 17:45
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Sweet story bmd.
I can see the CardPlayer.com updates now:
beastiemiked just crushed tournament favorite Phil Ivey when his KK held up against Ivey's QQ to take a monster pot and 2/3 of Ivey's chips.
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| 213 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, May 30, 2006, 17:47
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I saw a bit on Saturday, when I brought the PI with the headline to a tourney up at Goldies, Zen. The old guys shrugged it off, but the young guys were in disbelief. Most hoped that off-shore bank accounts will mask their location, and they may be right.
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| 214 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, May 30, 2006, 18:20
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It doesn't personally affect me being a non-US citizen, so I guess I just thought it ridiculous and shrugged it off. But it sets a horrible precedent. Its just about the stupidest law to uphold that I've ever seen, and the reported penalties are just outrageous. Equal to child pornography and animal torture?
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| 215 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, May 30, 2006, 18:50
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Some State Senator probably had to bail-out little Johnny, who ran up 10K at Party Poker on his gold card that was only "to be used for emergencies".
Instead of using it as a life-lesson and making him pay back at least a portion of it, they decide to do what we always seem to do in the US -
PROHIBITION! The solution to all our woes!
I don't really give a twit's nose hair, because I fortunately found playing online boring, but I can see where some folks would be up in arms.
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| 216 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, May 30, 2006, 19:14
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Ah....
I see now that Sen. Prentice, who was the Bill's sponsor, represents Tukwila, Burien and Renton.
This district just happens to be the home of about a dozen brick and mortar casinos, of which the cities skim approx. 10%.
It all becomes clear.
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| 217 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Wed, May 31, 2006, 00:06
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Very true some of the largest opposition to online casinos have been the B&M casinos...most of the money spent lobbying against online has come from B&M.
Biggest problem is enforcement...$$$
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| 218 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 15372923
Wed, May 31, 2006, 00:07
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B&M is pretty short sighted...where do they think 90% of their new players are coming from...online junkies wandering into the real world...
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| 219 | swami
ID: 75542011
Wed, May 31, 2006, 15:25
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Congrats BMD! I think a rotoguru.com shirt is appropriate to wear during the tourney. Especially WHEN you make the final table.
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| 220 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, May 31, 2006, 16:08
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I'm pretty sure he has to wear Pstars gear, though I'm not sure if that includes t-shirt or is just the hat.
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| 221 | beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Wed, May 31, 2006, 16:29
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Well I don't have to wear their stuff. If I choose to, I get 9 nights free at either the Monte Carlo or Treasure Island or $1000. Also, if I were to make the final table and chose the "sponsership deal" I would get $100,000 for 4-9, $250,000 2-3, and 1,000,000 for first.
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| 222 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, May 31, 2006, 16:58
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Guru can match that, I'm sure.
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| 223 | THK
ID: 2510332316
Wed, May 31, 2006, 22:52
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9 nights free for wearing a t-shirt. NIIIICE. haha. good luck man...you better keep us updated on your preformance!
anybody heard how many are going to be in the WSOP this year?
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| 224 | beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 01:06
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As of now they have it broken up into 4 different day one flights, each one they show having 2000. So around 8000 I'm assuming. I just checked Stars and they already have 800+ qualified through them.
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| 225 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 09:09
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btw bmd congrats...going anywhere in this tournament is like winning the lotto but it can be done...I play all the time with a guy that came in 14th place last year...and work with another guy that has made the money 3 out of the last 4 years. Just play solid poker.
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| 226 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 564292610
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 09:15
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New thread started... Poker Part VI
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