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0 Subject: 2006 WSOP Talk **spoilers**

Posted by: ChicagoTRS
- [15372923] Thu, Jul 20, 2006, 23:46

I thought I would start a seperate thread for the WSOP.

Most interesting tournament so far has to be the 50K HORSE event. Chip Reese taking it down...I think this tourney will garner almost as much prestige as the main event in coming years.
1ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Fri, Jul 21, 2006, 00:00
Soe other noteable bracelet winners so far:
NL Holdem 1K Allen Cunningham
Omaha High-Low 8/OB 5K Winner Sam Farha
Seven Card Stud 5K David Williams
No-Limit Hold'em Short Handed 6/Table 2.5K Dutch Boyd
2006 Tournament of Champions Mike Sexton

Phil Hellmuth has been at 2 final tables with a chance at his 10th bracelet...he is in pretty good in the current 2.5K shorthanded tourney.

Team Full Tilt has like 5 or 6 bracelets already.

William Chen is the only two tourney winner thus far...seems nearly impossible to take down two tourneys in these huge fields.

Main event looks like 8K+ entrants and a 10 million first prize...

I think next year I am going and at least playing in a 1.5 or 2K event. am making so much money these days it seems like a small investment.

148 sessions so far this year with 121 wins and 27 losses...81.76% Generally my losing nights are slightly larger than my wins but at this % I do not mind.

2ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Fri, Jul 21, 2006, 00:02
Best coverage I have found is at www.cardplayer.com

The daily videos are especially good.

Also enjoying the daily "The Circuit" radio show that you can download. Some of the past shows are outstanding. Pros giving some great tips.
3The Beezer
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      ID: 191202817
      Fri, Jul 21, 2006, 07:00
Bill Chen's got a book coming out at the end of this month so those wins are really good timing for him. :) I've read some of his stuff in the rec.games.poker archives and the guy is a genius.

The Mathematics of Poker
5THK
      ID: 2510332316
      Sun, Jul 23, 2006, 21:47
I remember reading Phil got sucked out on hard core heads up in one tournament. Don't remember the exact details but I am looking forward to seeing his blow up after that! ;-)
6THK
      ID: 2510332316
      Sun, Jul 23, 2006, 21:49
21 year old doing some damage...

2 bracelets and a 3rd two weeks ago
7ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 00:21
Madsen with a big stack in the Seven Card Stud High-Low 8/OB: No Rebuy $1,000+$0...3rd in chips with 38 players left...amazing if this kid gets another bracelet...
8THK
      ID: 2510332316
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 00:42
I think that would be more amazing than winning the Main Event this year!

3 bracelets in his first ever WSOP. That would just be unreal. Of course Fischman had 2 in his first WSOP right? Or was he just young?
9ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 01:01
Fischman certainly wasn't a month past his 21st birthday...plus the fields are probably 50% larger...

The amazing thing to me is he has done this in all different games...Omaha H/L...NL Holdem...Shorthanded Holdem...and now 7 Stud 8 OB...he is now leading the tourney with the big stack and 33 players remain...

Hellmuth making a run at his 10th with 3 players left...he has the big stack with ~1.1 million...but other two players are at ~600K so still anyones tourney...
10ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 01:02
Winning the main event involves a LOT of luck...or at least avoiding bad luck...I guess that is probably true for any big tourney but especially the Main...
11ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 01:04
Final table will be available via PPV... link

Sucks that it is on a Thursday night...no hole card cams...if it was a weekend I would definitely drop the $24
12ChicagoTRS
      ID: 564292610
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 09:25
Hellmuth wins his 10th bracelet...takes the lead in the WSOP player of the year.

But likely not for long as Madsen makes the final table of the Stud event...
13wolfer
      ID: 575582311
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 10:02
Is anyone listening to it on radio?
14The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 20:58
Hellmuth's having one hell of a WSOP.
15beastiemiked
      ID: 36428317
      Wed, Jul 26, 2006, 23:56
Madson at his 4th final table and is still alive with 4 left.
16ChicagoTRS
      ID: 564292610
      Thu, Jul 27, 2006, 13:31
Madson takes 3rd in the 7Stud 8/OB...two firsts and two thirds...I guess that is ok for a first WSOP... ;-) They hinted he may be on The Circuit tomorrow. The Circuit can be downloaded daily at cardplayer.com...45 minute Sirius radio show with poker pros Joe Seebok, Gavin Smith, and Scott Huff...

In other news...the main event kicks off tomorrow...concludes Thurs 8/10. There is a rumor they may add a 5th day one and push everything back a day...that would put the final table on a Friday...will definitely pay for the PPV if it is on a Friday night.

17ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:20
Main event underway...Harrahs raises the max limit to 10K players...100 million pool...hearing at least the top 27 players to finish will earn a million+.
18The Beezer
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      ID: 191202817
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:22
That's just amazing. More players than Party or Stars has for a $1 tourney at 10K a pop. Wow.
19THK
      ID: 2510332316
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 01:01
Wow. I didn't mind the spoilers on the early tournaments but I didn't want to know anything about the big one. ESPN has a headline saying: "WSOP Outs: Hellmuth in 6 hours"...

damn
20swami
      ID: 75542011
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 09:17
GL BMD!! I think he starts his quest today (Day 1D).
21Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 12:13
Yeap....today's the day. Can't wait to see if he's on the Cardplayer.com chip list for the day!!
22biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 14:57
Good luck Beastie! Make us proud.
23biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 14:58
Oh yeah - if your AJ gets re-raised, fold.
24Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 18:08
Looks like the chip counts on Cardplayer are mainly for 'name' players. Complete chip counts will likely have to wait until the end of the day.
25Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 13:05
Hmmmmmmm. Hate to say it, but I don't think bmd survived Day 1D. Come on dude, you're KILLING us with suspense!
26Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 17:37
Down to 36 players. Must be nice to have the huge stack and you can all-in anyone from 10th place on down for only 1/5 your stack!

PLACEPLAYERAMOUNTTRENDHISTORY

1Jamie Gold13,200,000 $-300,000

2William Thorsson5,900,000 $-450,000

3Rhett Butler5,600,000 $1,200,000

4Erik Friberg3,700,000 $600,000

5Eric Lynch3,560,000 $10,000

6Allen Cunningham3,300,000 $1,050,000

7Jeffrey Lisandro3,250,000 $80,000

8Kevin Aaronson3,100,000 $720,000

9John Magill2,900,000 $140,000

10Siddharth Jain2,700,000 $-400,000

10Dan Nassif2,700,000 $375,000

12David Einhorn2,650,000 $450,000

13Lee Kort2,600,000 $200,000

14Michael Binger2,580,000 $-170,000

15Rob Berryman2,350,000 $500,000

16Richard Lee1,950,000 $-175,000

17Prahlad Friedman1,750,000 $200,000

17Kevin O'Donnell1,750,000 $470,000

19Rob Roseman1,700,000 $150,000

20Fred Goldberg1,560,000 $-300,000

20Richard Wyrick1,560,000 $-20,000

22Paul Wasicka1,550,000 $-300,000

23Dustin Holmes1,350,000 $200,000

24Sirous Jamshidi1,300,000 $200,000

24Andrew Schreibman1,300,000 $-400,000

24Eric Molina1,300,000 $40,000

27Mark Garner1,200,000 $-100,000

28Ricki Nielsen1,130,000 $-720,000

29Mitch Schock1,010,000 $-720,000

30Luke Chung970,000 $-25,000

31Leif Force800,000 $-80,000

32Doug Kim640,000 $-235,000

32Lowell Kim640,000 $-60,000

34Cuong Do600,000 $285,000

35Humberto Brenes460,000 $30,000

36Dan Schmiech400,000 $-1,550,000
27ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 22:54
27 left...3 legitimate pros...Allen Cunningham...Jeffrey Lisandro...Prahlad Friedman.

Prahlad is kind of short stacked...mostly known as an internet pro...but has a few big B&M tournament cashes...have watched him play online a lot (spirit rock, zwieg).

Cunningham is probably the most accomplished player and recognizeable. 4 WSOP bracelets...quiet but a very dangerous player.

Lissandro is a European pro...accomplished player...won a ciscuit event last year...a few cashes this year.

Kevin O'Donnell must be a decent player as he has 2 final tables in this years series and 3 other cashes.

David Einhorn has said he will donate all of his winnings to a charity.

A lot of the other have at least some tournament cashes.

Looking at a minimum of 500K payout at this point.

Final table Thursday...think I am going to spring for the PPV...
28DMAN
      ID: 92582611
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 23:29
Are they taking Wednesday off, since they're playing down to the final table tomorrow?

I read that Gold's mentor is Johnny Chan.
29ChicagoTRS
      ID: 15372923
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 00:10
Yes...If they get to the final 9 tomorrow they will take the day off on Weds...the final table will be Thursday...
30swami
      ID: 75542011
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 07:21
Great stuff to follow through the Cardplayer updates. I think Eric 'Rizen' Lynch is playing very well. Of the bog pots he's been involved in, I've only seen one pot where he was behind when the money went in. From the write up he appears to have made the mistake of slow playing AA and lost to 54o when a 4 hit the turn as the $$ went in. This knocked him down to $800K late yesterday. Last I checked he was back up around $2mil. I can't see the current standings from work.

Unless of course someone can post them here?
31The Beezer
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      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 07:35
PLACE PLAYER AMOUNT
1 Jamie Gold 13,000,000
2 Erik Friberg 7,735,000
3 David Einhorn 6,905,000
4 Rhett Butler 6,400,000
5 Dan Nassif 5,430,000
6 Richard Lee 5,275,000
6 Michael Binger 5,275,000
8 William Thorsson 3,765,000
9 Jeffrey Lisandro 3,750,000
10 Kevin Aaronson 3,670,000
11 Doug Kim 3,595,000
12 John Magill 3,275,000
13 Allen Cunningham 2,650,000
14 Leif Force 2,265,000
15 Kevin O'Donnell 2,130,000
16 Prahlad Friedman 1,850,000
17 Eric Lynch 1,785,000
18 Lee Kort 1,700,000
19 Rob Roseman 1,685,000
20 Fred Goldberg 1,611,000
21 Dustin Holmes 1,210,000
22 Sirous Jamshidi 1,190,000
23 Luke Chung 1,100,000
24 Paul Wasicka 700,000
25 Siddharth Jain 675,000
26 Mark Garner 635,000
27 Richard Wyrick 570,000
32swami
      ID: 75542011
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 11:18
Thanks. Looks like Gold dropped a bit too. He was over $15mil last time I saw him as well. Where are the blinds/antes going to start at?
33Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:06
Gold's still okay....but look out - Cunningham now in 3rd.

PLACEPLAYERAMOUNTTRENDHISTORY
1 Jamie Gold 18,300,000
2 Rhett Butler 6,060,000
3 Allen Cunningham 6,000,000
4 Dan Nassif 5,525,000
5 David Einhorn 5,420,000
6 John Magill 4,600,000
7 Michael Binger 4,300,000
8 Erik Friberg 4,200,000
8 Leif Force 4,200,000
10 Kevin O'Donnell 4,100,000
11 Richard Lee 4,000,000
12 Jeffrey Lisandro 3,600,000
13 William Thorsson 3,300,000
14 Dustin Holmes 3,200,000
15 Doug Kim 2,700,000
16 Prahlad Friedman 2,200,000
17 Fred Goldberg 1,950,000
18 Kevin Aaronson 1,900,000
19 Luke Chung 1,000,000
20 Sirous Jamshidi 900,000
21 Paul Wasicka 880,000
34swami
      ID: 75542011
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:25
Nice to see a real player thriving. With some chips he could be dangerous. I wonder how Rizen was eliminated...
35ChicagoTRS
      ID: 96212713
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:43
Eric Lynch Eliminated 24th ($494,797)
Eric Lynch and Jamie Gold get all in preflop. Lynch flips over A6 while Gold shows the 1010. The board comes the 998QQ eliminating Eric Lynch in 24th place.
36ChicagoTRS
      ID: 96212713
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:45
Look out...Allen Cunningham just doubled up again and is sitting with 11.75M chips...no details on the double up yet...but looks like he took them from Friberg...

37ChicagoTRS
      ID: 96212713
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 17:51
AA vs KK...probably nothing you can do but go broke at this point in the tournament...

Kevin O'Donnell Eliminated 21st ($494,797)
Kevin O'Donnell raises to $180,000 under the gun and Allen Cunningham re-raises $450,000 more from the big blind. O'Donnell re-raises $1,000,000 more (now $1,630,000 total) and Cunningham pushes all-in, having O'Donnell covered. O'Donnell calls and shows KK, while Cunningham has the lead when he shows AA. The board comes QJ86Q and Cunningham rakes in the pot to eliminate O'Donnell. O'Donnell is eliminated in 21st place, earning him $494,797, while Cunningham's stack is up to $11,750,000.
38Species
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      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 18:54
Down to 18 - two tables. New seat assignments - Gold must be saying "DOH!", as Cunningham is on his left!

Tue Aug 08 15:42:00 PDT 2006
New Seat Assignments
Feature Table:

1. William Thorson

2. Michael Binger

3. David Einhorn

4. Leif Force

5. Rhett Butler

6. Jeff Lisandro

7. Jamie Gold

8. Allen Cunningham

9. Luke Chung



Table 2:

1. Richard Lee

2. Paul Wasicka

3. Dan Nassif

4. John Magill

5. Doug Kim

6. Kevin Aaronson

7. Erik Friberg

8. Fred Goldburg

9. Sirous Jamshidi
39ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 12:03
Final Table:
1 Jamie Gold 25,650,000

2 Allen Cunningham 17,770,000

3 Richard Lee 11,820,000

4 Erik Friberg 9,605,000

5 Paul Wasicka 7,970,000

6 Doug Kim 6,770,000

7 Rhett Butler 4,815,000

8 Michael Binger 3,140,000

9 Dan Nassif 2,600,000

Get'em Allen...
40Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 09, 2006, 12:47
How many "Frankly my dear I don't give a damn" comments are we going to have on the ESPN broadcasts? Rhett Butler? Come ON! Weak!

I hope he busts out first! lol
41ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:15
anyone watching the PPV?

action has been pretty slow so far...a lot of limping...kind of weak play...Gold has increased his lead...only Nassif eliminated so far...Gold took a nice pot from AC when they both held trip 9s...
42biliruben
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      ID: 589301110
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:20
Are they showing the hands?
43ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:21
no hole cards...

makes sense they would not show them...would be too easy to get info to players on breaks and such...
44biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:24
bah.

Just make them sign an agreement not to, under penalty of leaving with nothing.
45ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:44
supposedly against Navada gaming commission rules to show cards during the tournament...

Possibly in the future they would isolate the players and live audience...not allow anyone to leave during the final table and then they could show hole cards...

I am still finding it pretty interesting to see all the action...very different than a tape condensed version seeing all of the blind stealing. Very few hands are going to showdown.

Really interesting watching AC...he seems to play very tight but when he is in the pot he is very aggressive. Definitely dangerous player...everyone else doing a lot of calling.
46biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 19:52
He's probably the only one that's not just happy to be there.

And he knows it. Huge advantage.
47ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:24
Eric Friberg out in 8th place...JJ runs into Golds QQ...

Gold up to ~37 million...
48ChicagoTRS
      ID: 4270911
      Thu, Aug 10, 2006, 20:41
Allen Cunningham loses 3 million to Binger. Binger gets lucky after going all-in and catches a K for an inside straight catch. AC had TPTK...

Binger then precedes to do donk off the won chips on the next hand when he calls Wasickas all-in with A9...Wasicka shows AJ and his hand holds up.
49ChicagoTRS
      ID: 96212713
      Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:51
Well watched the whole flippin thing (5:30am)...gonna be a long day at work today...

My thoughts...the donk play of the night had to go to Lee who rereraises all-in with JJ after Golds limp/reraise...Lee was second in chips at the time...Gold calls quickly with QQ and takes an insurmountable chip lead 50 million+. When Lee went all-in I thought at worst he had KK. I was surprised to see Gold call so quickly with QQ if Lee has a bigger pair he is the new chip leader. It was an astonishingly bad play...Golds actions in the hand screamed big cards...Lee stated he read him as AK...ok that would have been the only hand he had a shot against and even if he had AK do you put your 2nd place chips at risk on a coin flip with 2 very shortstacks barely holding on and yourself in no immediate danger...cost himself at minimum a million dollars with that play.

While overall Gold played well he got very fortunate cards the entire night...he showed the willingness to make big calls with marginal hands and he just never ran into anything and if he did call when behind he made his draw. If someone could have got a little closer in chips they had a chance vs him...to me he seemed infinitely readable and basically would talk while others were in decision mode giving a lot of information to put him on a specific hand. Once he got over 50 million and the other players sitting with ~10 million or less it was just too big to overcome.

Did not stay up for Golds after interview but a lot of people were very happy with what he had to say so it sounds like he will be a good ambassador for poker. Congrats...

50DMAN
      ID: 92582611
      Wed, Aug 16, 2006, 00:44
ESPN WSOP TV schedule, link
51swami
      ID: 75542011
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 10:09
Does Jamie Gold ever lose a hand? I was beginning to believe this until he hit his flush at the same time as Cunningham did. Just watching him win all those hands would be enought to put me on tilt if I was at his table.
52Species
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      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 20, 2006, 11:21
It sure seems that way - in the telecast and as you watched the updated on Cardplayer.com during the event itself. Just like when he flopped the straight and turned the straight flush - the guy with top pair checked it down because he was paranoid about Gold having him beat.

In watching Gold, while he does make decent plays, I too think (re: TRS' post 49) he gives away way too much information with his talk. Friedman blew it in not trusting his gut, although I suppose Gold gets an award for his 'reverse psychology' acting on that hand.
53Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 02:30
he gives away way too much information with his talk.

I think it is genius, myself. He's got everyone spellbound, he's playing maestro magnificently and he is doing it with both his play and his unorthodox banter. I'm sure he knows that if he was in a room of old pros, his act would bankrupt him fairly quickly. For this one tourney, however, he's not just playing big stack bully, he's playing God.

Man, he reminds me of Robert Downey Jr.
54rockafellerskank
      ID: 49136120
      Fri, Sep 22, 2006, 20:34
After 3 likeable winners in a row, I don't think Gold will garner the popularity or endorsements of the past winners. He's just not the guy you want as the face of poker. Add to that the fact that the perception is he is welching on a deal to split his winnings (which is how he got his entry fee from bodog and he's going to have atarget on him over the next year.

I also think he is very borderline out-of-line on his talk when there is multi-way pots. I might expect the tourney to tighten up some of that next year.

Regardless, I think he played his GREAT fortune well to maximize the hits he made to the field.
55KM
      ID: 268252422
      Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 21:27
Most unlikeable winner since Helmuth. And at least Helmuth is entertaining. I thought his bluffs were generally instantly readable, and he kept his chip lead through a series of fortunes (QQ v JJ) and some stupidity, like his KJs call of Cunningham's 10/10 all in. At BEST he knows he's about 40% to win. I understand that big stack's duty is to through around chips and knock out the competition, but being a 20% to 45% underdog v a guy like Cunningham is basically asking to get beat in the end. I have a lot of respect for Johnny, and I'm not sure how he tolerates the guy.
56weykool
      ID: 41750315
      Wed, Sep 27, 2006, 22:34
Am I the only one who thinks Gold is a borderline Donkey?
He made so many bad plays and called so many hands when he was way behind.
There were probably 1000-2000 player who were eliminated on day 1 who played the same style as he played.
There was another player who wore the visor upsidedown (I forget his name)who accumalted a bunch of chips and then Donkeyed them off making the same kinds of plays as Gold.
The storyline could have just as easily been the same for Gold.
Gold's lucky run of cards....hitting miracle flops and suckouts was the difference.

I will give Gold major props for his table banter inducing calls when he had the hand and folds when he was bluffing.
57Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 00:29
Dmitri Nobles.

And I agree with many of the observations. Great run of cards. Pulled off some good bluffs and yes it sure seemed like he got folds when he wanted folds and calls when he wanted calls, but overall I wasn't impressed.

Was it me, or did it not seem like he was behind THAT often?
58Sludge
      ID: 45541422
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 00:33
I understand that big stack's duty is to through around chips and knock out the competition...

Since when? I think most pros will tell you that the quickest way to not be big stack is to do just that. You apply pressure, and play smart. You let the short stacks beat up on each other, and let the blinds stimulate action. I'm not saying that you tighten up to the point that you turn coal into diamonds, but you don't "throw chips around" either trying to get lucky and knock players out.
59ChicagoTRS
      Leader
      ID: 566152116
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 15:01
Very few have had a run of cards like Gold...he never ran into tough spots at least for the last two days...always ahead...always hitting flops.
60KM
      ID: 268252422
      Thu, Sep 28, 2006, 17:54
Sludge, let me clarify. I didn't mean recklessly throw around chips. Most, including pros, use the stack as an intimidation tool, where short stacks are relucantant to play/call heads up with something close to the nuts. Some are overly agressive (Nobles), and it just becomes everyone's source of a double up. From watching a lot of tournaments online, the most successful big stacks, IMO, are still tight, but very aggressive. Sitting back just lets the 3 small stacks knock each other around until there is 1 stack left which rivals you. By 'knocking people out' and 'throwing chips around' (with a variety of strong; not just AA, KK, AK, and QQ, or fold), they don't end up in a coin toss situation heads up.
61biliruben
      ID: 535193010
      Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 12:49
I don't think I could have folded that straight-flush draw.

He had a shot to make a go of it for 1st, and pussed out for a chance at improving a mere mil.
62beastiemiked
      ID: 36428317
      Sat, Sep 30, 2006, 15:53
He had a shot to make a go of it for 1st, and pussed out for a chance at improving a mere mil.

Easier said than done. Afterwards, he said he put Gold on a higher flush draw which was totally plausible. I don't know what I would've done. I'd like to think I could put in in there with the straight flush draw realizing that 1st is worth a lot more than the 12 million dollars.
63swami
      ID: 397233121
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 01:24
Anyone see the 2 episode HORSE final table? My jaw dropped watching Doyle fold QQ on a weak flop when he was min-raised by Chip Reese. Reese had flat called Doyle's PFR. Granted they have probably played 10K+ hands together over the years, but that was still pretty impressive.

This one will live on the TIVO for a while. This way I can remind myself how much I suck at this game....
64ChicagoTRS
      Leader
      ID: 566152116
      Wed, Nov 08, 2006, 14:52
with doyle vs chip...I would not 100% trust them...they have played literally 10s of 1000s of hours together and have run together forever...could have been soft playing each other...
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