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0 Subject: Republican Mayor/Gay/Spokane... wow!

Posted by: Seattle Zen
- [178161719] Thu, May 05, 2005, 22:27

JKP - The first story out of Spokane truly worthy of the boards and I have to post it?

For a quarter century, the man who is now Spokane's mayor has used positions of public trust – as a sheriff's deputy, Boy Scout leader and powerful politician – to develop sexual relationships with boys and young men.

On one recent occasion, West offered a man he believed to be an 18-year-old – whom he met online at Gay.com – gifts, favors and a City Hall internship, Internet dialogues retained by the newspaper reveal. The 18-year-old was actually a forensic computer expert working for the newspaper.

Last June, West went on a dinner date with another 18-year-old he met in the same gay chat room. The young man, initially unaware of his date's identity, paid for dinner, and then was allowed to drive West's blue Lexus convertible. The evening ended with consensual sex, the 18-year-old told the newspaper. He admitted offering an internship in his office, sports memorabilia he's collected, help with college admissions, and trips to sports events and Washington, D.C., to a man he believed was an 18-year-old he met online at Gay.com. But he emphatically said he didn't view those offers as "enticements to teenagers" or an abuse of his public office. Later, asked about his private life, he said: "I wouldn't characterize me as 'gay,' but he didn't distance himself from the term "bisexual."

Jesus is cool with bisexuals, right?

Seriously, there are some extremely sick stories being told about Jim West and his fellow child molestor, former sherrif David Hahn. Hahn and West were close friends, serving together as sheriff's deputies and Scout leaders of Troop 345. Disgrace is the least punishment he deserves.

Here's a short list of his hypocracy:
In 1986, he supported a bill allowing criminal background checks for jobs involving children. The measure was necessary because child abusers “often try to gain a position of trust and authority,” West said in a Spokesman-Review interview at the time. Trust him, he knows

West and 14 other Republicans' 1986 bill, which failed, would have barred gay men and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. It called for screening prospective employees for sexual orientation and firing employees whose homosexuality became known.

In 1986, West voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS during sex. He said such instruction “is something people go buy at dirty bookstores.”

During a 1990 hearing on AIDS education, West proposed that teen sex be criminalized. But hey, that's my PRIVATE life, leave me alone.

As a Senate leader, West consistently opposed efforts to expand civil rights protections for gays in jobs and housing.

Eastern Washington Republicans are a sad joke. Here's to hoping that there are enough liberals with backbones over there to stand up against the Republicans and field some decent candidates.
1Boldwin
      ID: 543312819
      Thu, May 05, 2005, 22:51
I guess he didn't dare voting for his lifestyle and give himself away. Bye Jim and good riddance.
2James K Polk
      ID: 284561017
      Tue, May 10, 2005, 19:00
Sorry SZ ... I haven't had much time to come up for air since this story started. Not that I can really say anything anyway.
3biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Thu, May 12, 2005, 14:11
While some of his supporters are no doubt horrified by West's wild gay ways, and while liberals relish the downfall of another self-loathing conservative queer, dwelling on his gayness is a distraction. His lies, explanations, and bad judgment offer us, at most, context for the truly serious charge that he molested kids in the 1970s and '80s while he was a Boy Scout leader and deputy sheriff—sometimes in his squad car. West denies the charges and is on leave to defend against them.

The headline "Boy Scout leader molests boys" is starting to read like a dog-bites-man pronouncement that surprises no one these days. But the alleged crimes here aren't about public outrage but about the real, sometimes lifelong damage done when adults sexually exploit kids. These crimes go way beyond the stupidity of using your government computer for sex chats or having a private life completely at odds with the public policies you propound. We're talking about rape by folks who are trusted to take care of the kids they're abusing.

And they say gay marriage will destroy our sacred institutions.

The Spokesman-Review should be commended for getting these allegations out in the open with two victims willing to go on the record. There was a time when such stories went unreported, or were actively suppressed. Longtime Seattleites will remember that rumors swirled for years around King County Superior Court Judge Gary Little, a charismatic and well-connected man who sexually abused teenage boys. Media investigations never quite seemed to get the goods on him, and his behavior was a kind of creepy open secret for years before he was finally nailed by reporter Duff Wilson, then at the P-I. On the eve of exposure in 1988, Little took his own life, but the question that lingered long after his death was: Why did it take so long to stop this guy?

The Spokesman-Review took its time: The stories about West capped a three-year probe. During that time, we all went to school on the massive Catholic Church abuse scandals, which have helped to educate the public on how widespread abuse is and how the patterns of abuse, cover-up, and denial work. The benefit of the doubt is now shifting from the powerful perpetrators to the victims and accusers. The West story might never have been reported had not so many victims in other cases stepped forward and found vindication, and had not the stigma of being a victim decreased a little.

West is having his day in the court of public opinion. Whether that leads to any other days in court is unknown. If so, it's lucky for him he hasn't always gotten his way. Back in 1990, when West was pushing the bill to ban teen sex, GOP right-wingers in Olympia were pushing a bill that would allow the state to castrate sex offenders. A proposal to make castration mandatory died in committee, but a second bill, co-sponsored by state Sen. Ellen Craswell, would have incentivized castration by offering offenders shorter sentences in exchange for their family jewels. The Senate passed the bill. West was one of those voting "yea."

So West should thank his lucky stars that wiser heads eventually prevailed and that the barbaric bill never became law.
Mossback

Man. And they say liberals are self-loathing!
4biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Thu, May 12, 2005, 14:17
Also, Kudos to Mr. President's Soveriegn nation of Spokanistan, and particularly the strong work of the Spokesman-Review.
5Seattle Zen
      ID: 178161719
      Fri, May 20, 2005, 03:11
West returns to work

“It might take the National Guard to remove him from office,”

Feist said the mayor is expected to attend this morning’s Greater Spokane Leadership Prayer Breakfast, previously called the Mayor’s Prayer Breakfast, which is expected to attract 800 people to the Spokane Convention Center.

Hilarious.
6Seattle Zen
      ID: 178161719
      Thu, Jun 09, 2005, 13:56
It's not funny anymore. He has no shame.

Recall petition hearing for Spokane mayor to resume Monday
7Seattle Zen
      ID: 178161719
      Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 01:43
"I'm am not a criminal. Just like Michael Jackson, I did not molest those boys years ago. Really."

in over 90 articles and increasingly shrill editorials, The Spokesman-Review has twisted testimony and ignored facts that do not fit its view of this matter.

Shrill?! twisted testimony?! Wow, JKP, sounds like you guys have created a MSM outlet right up Baldwin's alley! You have the Spokesman-Review bookmarked Baldy?
8Boldwin
      ID: 543312819
      Thu, Jun 30, 2005, 07:53
Now that you mention it, I'd like to hear Polk's report on his paper's coverage of the Sudan, Congo, Zimbabwe/Rhodesia this year.
9Seattle Zen
      ID: 178161719
      Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 12:32
Spokane Mayor Jim West's city-owned computer contains 1,800 files, at least half of them photos, that he doesn't want the public to see, according to new court filings.

"From what I've been told by a city attorney, the mayor's computer contains pornographic pictures and probably very sexually descriptive correspondence with people he met on chat lines with his City Hall computer," City Councilwoman Cherie Rodgers told The Spokesman-Review for a Saturday report. The files apparently include photos of young men the mayor met on gay Web sites using his city-owned computer, according to documents produced by City Hall. His files of "personal social contacts" also apparently include message exchanges with young men. According to the city's written policies, data on city-owned computers "should be considered information available to the public." In many cases, improper use of government or business computers can lead to termination, the policies say.

Anyone want to take bets on the Dec. 6 recall election?
10Seattle Zen
      ID: 3100137
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 13:00
Still arguing over the release of photos from Mayor West's government owned laptop.

As a judge prepares to decide whether the contents of Mayor James West's city-owned computer are part of the public record, the mayor is arguing that numerous gay-oriented photos on the laptop were placed there automatically. West faces a Dec. 6 recall election over a sex scandal involving gay men, and is trying to keep the contents of his laptop computer secret on the ground that they are too offensive for the public to see.

Ah, the "what I did is so offensive that I don't want the public to see" argument. Works every time.
11sarge33rd
      ID: 148422311
      Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 14:09
lol damn. Dont believe I've ever seen or heard of a politician before, who claimed he was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick and twisted, he didnt want the voters to see how much.

Oh wait.....wouldnt that be most of them???????
12Seattle Zen
      ID: 3100137
      Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 21:06
Seven months after Mayor Jim West was accused of abusing his office and a week before a special recall election, the recall campaign has become a low-key affair.

In a fund-raising letter to supporters in September, West said he would need $150,000 to adequately fight his ouster. With a week to go before the election, West's Committee for Spokane's Progress has raised about $19,000.

I'd love to read some exit poll responses from No voters in this recall. Are there many, "I don't care that he used his office to lure young men into having sex with him, he keeps the parks clean," voters out there in Spokane?
13Seattle Zen
      ID: 91152620
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:41
Bye bye

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
14Seattle Zen
      ID: 3415339
      Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 12:43
Word on the street is that Frontline will be doing a piece on ol' Jim West.
Brokeback West. A documentary film crew from PBS' Frontline was at the Capitol this week shooting interviews and scenery for an hour-long program on the rise and fall of Jim West. The former Senate majority leader, once Olympia's most powerful Republican, was recalled as Spokane mayor after being outed as a gay man and accused of misusing his office to lure potential sex partners. The program airs this fall.
15Perm Dude
      ID: 2810301613
      Thu, Nov 16, 2006, 16:10
Frontline has, indeed, done a piece on him.

West died over the summer, but maintained until the end that he never molested boys. And in the text accompanying the Frontline piece, this quote stands out:

In the end, The Spokesman-Review's investigation was unable to turn up substantial support for the charge that West had molested boys in the 1970s or courted underage men online.

Frankly, it sounds like the S-R got ahead of itself on that point and ran the man into the ground with it. Did West deserve to get voted out? Maybe, although what he actually did (political favors, etc) would probably not have gotten much of a second look from some East Coast states. It was the molestation charges which gave the recall the stength it did. And those charges don't appear to have been true.
16Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 02:25
Excellent post, PD. Obviously I followed this story closely and when I heard the statement you highlighted above, I was really shocked and upset. I've read many of the Spokesman-Review stories and I came away believing that there was solid testimony from people claiming West molested them. When I learned that was not the case, I was mad. I got even madder when the Editor-in-Chief claimed that West's on-line trolling for young men was considered evidence that bolstered the molesting claims. What? Preposterous. Showing interest in having sex with men does not mean that West was more likely to have molested boys no more than some other man's interest in having sex with a nubile 18 year old woman means he likely molested little girls in years past.

West had some serious lapses in judgment. He never should have downloaded illicit photos onto a government computer. Offering city internships to young men he is sexually interested in was an offense that required him to be removed, in my mind. He did not deserve to have his sexuality splashed all over the headlines and NO ONE should ever have to deny unfounded child molestation charges. I really felt for the guy, completely surprising myself.

I think James K. Polk should emerge from retirement to address this story from the inside vantage point.
17Perm Dude
      ID: 521038179
      Fri, Nov 17, 2006, 10:41
I actually left a message for him yesterday about it, Zen. I'd be interested in their own views on the subject. Your point is excellent: That interest in men is not the same as interest in boys. Implying otherwise is "Baldwinizing" the whole thing.
18biliruben
      ID: 4911361723
      Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 16:35
Republican Washington legislator alleged to have solicited sex with man.

What is it with Washington Republicans?

Is it a pre-requisite to getting elected to be a closeted gay man who votes consistently against gay rights?
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