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Subject: Maria Cantwell Wins!
Posted by: Seattle Zen
- [119562516] Fri, Dec 01, 19:08
First Paul Westphaul is fired, then Skeletor is sent home to retire, it has been a good week in Seattle! The recount is over and Maria won by 2,000 votes. She won only 5 counties, but won King County (Seattle) by over 150,000 votes.
I was all smiles and high-fives until my heart stopped when reading that the evil Gorton has been mentioned as a CABINET post appointee: Interior.
Note to potential Pres. GW Bush. Remember your promise to end the rancor and divisiveness in Washington? Well, you wouldn't appoint Dr. Mengela to run Yeshiva Hospital would you? Then don't name the biggest Indian-hater in all of the US to run the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Go ask Dad what happened when he named John Tower to a post, it will happen to you too. |
| 1 | Toral
ID: 179211416 Fri, Dec 01, 19:33
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And I even know Maria Cantwell! Well, not personally, but I got e-mails from her, personally, whenever Real Player was updated.
As a mean partisan side note: Maria is a politician, loses an election (I believe), gets a cushy job with a profitable dot.com (working in Marketing for a company that gives its product away?), makes $100 million or whatever, spends $10M of it to win a Senate seat. Is that the way peoples' representatives should come up?
Sorry, but I'm bitter. I prefer crusty grizzled old Gorton.
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| 2 | biliruben
ID: 231045110 Sat, Dec 02, 00:38
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"Dr. Mengela to run Yeshiva..."
Now THAT's pretty funny, DZ!
Toral - Naw, I prefer my political representatives to be coddled from birth and have no idea how they would survive in the real world, ala our presidential candidates.
Wouldn't you rather have someone spend there own money instead of selling their souls to lobbying organizations and special interests, as Skeletor has done for, what? The last 85 years? Or maybe it only SEEMS like he is that old.
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| 3 | James K Polk
ID: 16442920 Sat, Dec 02, 00:44
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I try to avoid saying much about which candidates I prefer, but I do have to say this: I love the nickname Skeletor for Gorton. Cracks me up every time.
Also, since this thread probably will only be visited by Washington staters, I've got a question for you guys on the West Side. How's the newspaper strike treating you? Just curious what your take on the whole situation is, and what effect it's had on news coverage over there.
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| 4 | biliruben
ID: 231045110 Sat, Dec 02, 00:54
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They were giving the papers away for free, Thursday. Not sure if that is going to happen for the duration, or what.
Honestly, I don't really read the local papers. I read the NYT online and The Stranger and The Weekly in print (that's about how much local news I am interested in, I'm afraid). I did briefly pick one up though, and it was so scrawny I thought it was just an insert at first. Just a bunch of AP articles.
Where do your sympathies lie, Mr. President, if you don't mind me asking? I would assume with the strikers, but you have surprised me before.
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| 5 | James K Polk
ID: 16442920 Sat, Dec 02, 01:05
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I'd be interested to know where I've surprised you before, bili, but I'm afraid I'm not going to deliver a shocker this time :)
I'm with the strikers on this one. I know how much they make, and it really should be higher in a market like Seattle. There are also some other issues of fairness in the contract dispute, such as paying reporters more if they work downtown.
I find it particularly tasty, too, that the strikers have chosen this time of year to take their stand. Hit them when it counts. I'm sure the Tacoma News Tribune is loving it, too, as they rake in the extra ad revenue that's not going into the Seattle papers.
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| 6 | James K Polk
ID: 16442920 Sat, Dec 02, 01:13
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Actually, what I meant in the second paragraph was: paying reporters less if they don't work downtown.
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| 7 | Madman
ID: 610552719 Sat, Dec 02, 02:45
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I'm not from Washington State, but she will be part of my Government, and I'm not sure I can accept her in that position under these circumstances.
I understand that there were thousands of votes that were not counted in that Senate race. Ignoring those votes means ignoring Democracy itself. Or so I've been told by a wise man.
And in Swoops Skeletor to Save our Country! Do not Concede Until You see their Ballots Bleed! Defend our Democracy! A Vote Stolen is a Vote Earned! Al is With You on the Side of All that is Good and Holy!
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And then, on top of all this, you tell me that paperboys in Washington State are having their baseball card money threatened by a newspaperman strike! What's going on up there? First you disenfranchise thousands, and now you try to take away baseball cards from little boys? Next thing I know, you will have voted to join Canada . . .
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(sarcasm, in case anyone needs clarification)
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| 8 | spachalagu
ID: 51912417 Sat, Dec 02, 04:10
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Gorton in the cabinet? Gawd, why can't he just retire to Castle Greyskull to hang with Beastman and the rest of his minions.
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| 9 | hoops boy
ID: 51440922 Sat, Dec 02, 14:03
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Ok, i have no clue whats going on up thier, but I am curious why it is so bad to pay workers less if they dont work downtown. I mean, it sounds bad from some type of policy standpoint, however Haveing changed jobs a couple of times over the last few years, the location of the job was always a direct factor in the amount of pay I was willing to recieve (working downtown constitutes a certain level of extra expesnses for food and parking) so why should buisness be allowed to do thing the other way around with employees?
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| 10 | Toral
ID: 179211416 Sat, Dec 02, 14:37
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James K. Polk: why are you so reticent about stating what candidates you prefer?
If Linda Greenhouse, top legal reporter for the New York Times, can march in a pro-choice demonstration (as she did), why can't you let it all hang out?
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| 11 | Donky
ID: 55442220 Sat, Dec 02, 15:49
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Oh God no Madman. Washington State as a part of Canada! The home of the single mother!! We will take Microsoft and Boeing but leave the white hippie trash on the Olympic Pennisula where it belongs...as a part of the Union...
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| 12 | biliruben
ID: 3587722 Sat, Dec 02, 16:15
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Mr. President - Now that you call me on it, I guess I can't think of any particular instances of you surprising me. I guess it just sounded good at the time. Either that or I just had a very incorrect impression of your beliefs, at some point. Maybe I thought you really were Polk incarnate. ;)
Wait! Didn't you pick up that chump Pedro Martinez, I think his name is, for many of his starts?!? There ya go! Surprise!
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| 13 | Seattle Zen
ID: 3110382419 Sat, Dec 02, 19:41
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Prez.
I whole heartedly support the strikers. I'm glad in the other post that you linked to the union-record, scabs piss me off to no end.
However, I am afraid for labor in this fight. I am shocked at the number of people downtown carrying around copies of the Times or PI. Don't these people realize what they are doing. These first few weeks of the strike will make or break the union. If management feels that enough people will read these rags, then they will not negotiate and let the union wither on the picket line.
I know it's cliche to dismiss the importance of newspapers in today's internet world (you haven't heard any of this in Spokane, I'm sure, Pres. Polk ;)), but I really feel that in Seattle that people really haven't noticed. Back in the 80's if the papers went on strike, people would have really freaked out, the newspapers were the number one method of getting information around. Now almost everyone who subscribes to the paper has internet access.
Personally, I really dislike both papers. I subscribed to the PI for a while, but it is far too suburban conservative for me. I read the Weekly and the Stranger like Biliruben. To show my solidarity with the strikers, I haven't looked at either paper's websites. The vending boxes offer the scab rag for free and I would take all of the copies and recycle them, but I fear that management would perversely perceive this as proof of the popularity of the "replacement" paper.
I guess, in the end, I wish that Labor would do more to pressure the papers. The Teamsters that run the distribution trucks should honor the strike and every union in town should make it be known that they will do everything to lend support.
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| 14 | biliruben
ID: 3587722 Sat, Dec 02, 20:37
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Allright, Charlie! I feel a little bad for not being able to work myself up to that level of anger and support for unions these days. Glad someone still feels strongly that they can still perform a valuable function in our society.
The TA strike at UW, on the other hand. Now that's something I can relate to.
Did you and Blue Hen ever get together for those beers?
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| 15 | Seattle Zen
ID: 3110382419 Sat, Dec 02, 21:47
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Sure did. I would like to hear more about the TA unionizing over a beer sometime.
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| 16 | biliruben
ID: 3587722 Sat, Dec 02, 22:43
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Yeah! Good idea. Maybe watch the Monday night game over at the Pacific Inn?
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