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Subject: Accused 9/11 mastermind wants death
Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Dude [27652109] Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 14:02
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I'm curious what this crowd thinks of this?
I'm sure a lot of people who are normally pro-death penalty will say, live him life in Supermax so he doesn't get what he wants. But, won't that just serve to inflame our enemies further?
Of course, killing him will inflame them as well.
My opinion is that he should be treated according to law without regard to the "9/11" sensitivity of his crime. if he is convicted and given the death penalty, so be it. But, isn't this a no-win situation for the US (assuming he is found guilty).
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| 1 | Perm Dude
ID: 35542411
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 14:14
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Interesting. There was a wave of federal legislation in the wake of 9/11 specifically making crimes like these death penalty eligible. But I've always felt that giving these criminals what they want (martyrdom) isn't in our best interest either.
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| 2 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 15:06
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Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Obviously if the crime qualifies for the DP to be on the table, then it should be on the table. But then, we in affect "aide" him in becoming a martyr, which make him more dangerous to us later than he was in the past. If we dont, it begs the question then how we can apply the DP in any other case, when we waived it here for our own "convenience". Classic example of putting yourself between a rock and a hard place.
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| 3 | Boxman
ID: 337352111
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 17:00
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I think life without parole (in one of those SuperMax facilities like in CO) is a lot worse than the death penalty. I would much rather him suffer that than get a quick way out.
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| 4 | Building 7
ID: 174591519
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 21:31
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Accused 9/11 mastermind wants death
Did he say that before or after being waterboarded.
"Mohammed's defense team has said he may have suffered cognitive impairment from harsh interrogations in CIA custody. The Bush administration acknowledged in February that Mohammed was waterboarded — a technique that involves strapping a person down and pouring water over his or her cloth-covered face to create the sensation of drowning."
A big chunk of the 911 Commission Report is based on this water-boarded "testimony". But, nobody cares.
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| 5 | astade
ID: 1533770
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 21:34
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*care* is subjective.
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| 6 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 22:48
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Did he say that before or after being waterboarded.
Rhetorical question? Yes, he said this after being waterboarded. Since, I don't think we can reverse time, the situation still as as it is. B7, rather than point out the failing(s) of the administration, care to offer an opinion on the tread topic?
I see 4 possible scenarios, although #4 isn't plausible, perhaps there are those that would condone it?
1) Try him, fry him if guilty.
2) Try him, lock him up for life if guilty (although this would be making an exception).
3) Try him, release him if not guilty (do we really think that a likely outcome?).
4) Let him go with an apology because we tortured (subject to opinion) him and violated his human rights. I'm sure thsi will be good for several hundred other innocent lives around the world, but, hey, we can't be splashing water around like that!
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| 7 | biliruben
ID: 4911361723
Thu, Jun 05, 2008, 23:16
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Make him clean up murder crime scenes for the rest of his life.
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| 8 | Khahan
ID: 46121614
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 10:58
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Max security? Why? Don't tell anybody where he is. Pick some filthy rotten hole-in-the-ground jail. Throw him in it. Register him as John Doe. Don't tell anybody where he is or who he is. Take his identity, let him rot for life and don't give him a second thought.
That is what he deserves. To be forgotten about i his own life time
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| 9 | Boldwin
ID: 58452178
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 19:02
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There's always the 'No Virgins For You' punnishment. A very healthy pork diet and an extended lifespan.
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| 10 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 19:21
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A very healthy pork diet....
How long before the liberals picket outside the CO supermax facility once that gets leaked out? Some ACLU type group will pitch a b!tch fit over that.
Hmmmm, tortures a terrorist AND POs liberals? Sounds like a good solution to me.
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| 11 | Perm Dude
ID: 420241913
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 19:48
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Well, once you start deliberately trashing a prisoner's religion, then it gets beyond punishment of the person, IMO. Should Christians who murder be forced to, say, use a Bible as toilet paper?
Keep the punishment personal to the criminal himself but no more.
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| 12 | Mattinglyinthehall
Dude
ID: 01629107
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 19:59
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I give Baldwin the benefit of assuming he's kidding. With Box, based on his own expressed views on religion, can't be sure.
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| 13 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 20:23
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With Box, based on his own expressed views on religion, can't be sure.
Which views would those be?
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| 14 | Perm Dude
ID: 420241913
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 20:37
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That Islam isn't worth Shi'ite.
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| 15 | Mattinglyinthehall
Dude
ID: 01629107
Fri, Jun 06, 2008, 20:48
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#13:
Your explicit rejection of the New Covenant of Christianity in defense of your claim that "Christianity endorses revenge."
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