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Subject: Dying Manson follower considered for release
Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Dude [27652109] Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 17:42
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Just curious what this group thinks about releasing Susan Atkins considering she has 3 months to live?
More specifically, do you think the medical bills she will run up at the end that the state will have to pay impact the decision?
I doubt she is a threat to society in her condition, so would leaving her in jail be more about justice or vindictive/punishment?
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| 1 | Perm Dude
ID: 53622158
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 17:55
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Interesting that Bugliosi is in favor of the release. I'm inclined to just make her stay in, but make her as comfortable as possible and relax visitation rules for her family.
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| 2 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 17:57
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I think she's a dick.
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| 3 | Perm Dude
ID: 53622158
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 18:01
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Has she worked in the Bush Administration?
:)
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| 4 | Tree
ID: 33611515
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 18:13
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wow Boxman. i'm pretty surprised you'd put Tony Snow in the same category as her.
he was just a partisan dick. she, on the other hand, was a mass murdering psychopath. dick is much too kind a word for her.
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| 5 | Seattle Zen
ID: 49112418
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 18:29
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Corrections Department spokeswoman Terry Thornton said Atkins' medical treatment and paying for prison guards to watch over her has cost state taxpayers more than $1.4 million since March.
What a waste. I sure can think of better ideas for that $1.4 million. Those of you who don't want to release her, you want to spend another $2 million or so until she dies? Start passing the hat.
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| 6 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 18:35
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i'm pretty surprised you'd put Tony Snow in the same category as her.
I said Tony Snow was a dick?
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| 7 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 18:38
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Realistically, her life will be the same at home as in prison....bed bound. The question then...who pays for that bed-bound state of being? Further...is the very ideal of "justice" served better or worse whether she is bed-bound at home or in a correctional medical facility?
The preferred answer to the first..has to be..not the taxpayers. The honest answer to the second, is no difference.
Given those two repsonses...I'd say to send her home. And let her family bear the financial burden.
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| 8 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:16
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Those of you who don't want to release her, you want to spend another $2 million or so until she dies? Start passing the hat.
Too bad that can't be the liberal motto for all the programs you people want.
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| 9 | Tree
ID: 33611515
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:34
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hahahahahahahahaahah...
so you're in favor of raising taxes to support "liberal" programs?
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| 10 | Boxman
ID: 571114225
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:44
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so you're in favor of raising taxes to support "liberal" programs?
No you goon. Zen alluded to those of us who wanted her incarcerated that we should pay for it. My comment was done in that context too bad it went over your head.
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| 11 | Texas Flood
ID: 32638158
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:48
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So who pays the medical expenses when she's released from
prison? I doubt that she has health insurance so the state or fed
pays either way? Let her rot!
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| 12 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:52
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so this to devolves into a "liberal = bad, conservative = good" mudslinging contest, w/o thought as to the cost and/or rationale of a decision/choice.
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| 13 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:52
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so this to devolves into a "liberal = bad, conservative = good" mudslinging contest, w/o thought as to the cost and/or rationale of a decision/choice.
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| 14 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:52
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so this to devolves into a "liberal = bad, conservative = good" mudslinging contest, w/o thought as to the cost and/or rationale of a decision/choice.
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| 15 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 19:57
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I'd let her out. I'd also stop spending millions to prosecute octogenarian racists for crimes they committed in the 50's and bedbound Nazis for crimes they committed in WWII.
Serial rapists aren't being adequately prosecuted while indegent defendants aren't receiving true representation all for want of scarce resources and we're wasting money on stuff like this.
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| 16 | Tree
ID: 33611515
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 20:05
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so you're in favor of raising taxes to support "liberal" programs?
No you goon. Zen alluded to those of us who wanted her incarcerated that we should pay for it. My comment was done in that context too bad it went over your head.
you're the one who wants to pass the hat to pay for medical expenses. sounds like raising taxes to me.
good for you.
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| 17 | Razor
ID: 256431422
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 20:24
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I'd also stop spending millions to prosecute octogenarian racists for crimes they committed in the 50's and bedbound Nazis for crimes they committed in WWII.
Easy to say when you're not black or Jewish. I realize resources are limited, but are hate crimes and war crimes really taking up that many resources? I doubt it. I am sure there are other places where way more resources are being wasted that could be cut rather than let murderers go unprosecuted.
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| 18 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 20:53
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denied
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