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Subject: Specter changes parties
Posted by: Frick
- [3410551012] Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:48
I'm surprised there isn't a thread about this.
CNN.com
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| 1 | Perm Dude
ID: 57351298
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:53
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MITH mentioned this in the GOP thread, but it probably deserves its own thread. Too busy right now to post anything, but I'll be back late this morning.
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| 2 | bibA
ID: 563142718
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 10:19
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One of the few real independent thinkers in the senate. No matter which party affiliation he chooses, it's too bad he is 79 years old.
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| 3 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 11:54
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I don't care which citizen of his state you were or how you vote, one thing was always certain. He doesn't actually represent you.
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| 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 5352911
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 12:05
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You were happy to have him as a Republican, however. We'll take him for the same reason. Plus, the Republicans can stop prancing about muttering "filibuster" all the time.
Maybe when they have no choice but to work with the majority party they will.
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| 5 | bibA
ID: 563142718
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 14:46
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So who does he represent? The Masons? Commies? The Taliban?
He must represent someone, he keeps getting elected.
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| 6 | Perm Dude
ID: 5352911
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 14:47
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Some responses from the De-Nile:
Jim DeMint: The GOP Lost PA Because of "Forced Unionization" (Rebuttal: Union membership in PA is flat or has dropped the last few years)
Losing is Winning!: Bill Kristol and Jim Inhofe, among others. (Rebuttal: None needed here, really. Let's make it a party of say, 25 dudes, then. Now that's winning!)
Michael Steele: Spector is ungrateful--his mamma would be embarrased. (Rebuttal: I guess the GOP thought Specter was their bitch forever.)
My own belief is that Specter looks out first for Specter, and he saw the writing on the wall. But the GOP made his switch awfully easy. Ths blocked quotes from Specter at this post about his press conference about sums it up. The far right GOP members worked very hard and were very up-front about getting rid of Specter. For them to be whining now about his switch just shows how amateur they all are.
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| 7 | Frick
ID: 3410551012
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 15:54
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I said front running only because of the fact that I agree with PD. Specter is only looking out for Specter.
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| 8 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:00
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bibA
Well for one clue, he owed his start in the Senate to Bill Buckley and he was always on the side of globalist 'nation building' whether his particular state and/or party was or wasn't. His loyalties aren't independent. They are perpendicular to the will of the people of either party and entirely, slavishly in line with the globalist power elite.
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| 9 | Perm Dude
ID: 5352911
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:04
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I guess he's lucky, then, that the voters of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania are in with both feet as slaves to the "globalist power elite."
Or maybe, as usual, through the use of selective reading and reverse-engineering (votes to motives), Baldwin misses the point by continuing to prove what he already believes...
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| 10 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:15
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He's a frankenstein of a candidate. His races, in particular his primary manuevers are textbook cases of the ills of the democratic system as practiced.
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| 11 | Perm Dude
ID: 5352911
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:20
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Really? You get this through newsmax & FOX News?
If only we had someone on the boards who actually lives in PA and sees how a senator operates a campaign in a battleground state...
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| 12 | Mith
ID: 2894309
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:27
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LOL
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| 13 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:30
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You've always loved Arlen then, Eh? Riiiight.
Not everyone can raise the money for a senate race as an independent and win. Prolly it was PD's cash. Not. Prolly it was cash from inside PA. Not.
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| 14 | Perm Dude
ID: 5352911
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:36
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You can't stay at all on topic, and when your point is refuted you turn personal. How would Jesus post?
I've never said I loved Arlen. Your point Eh? Riiiight. mocks your own mistake. As noted above, I think Arlen Specter thinks of himself first. And I think he was pushed from the GOP (and the GOP will lose their blustery filibuster threat as a result).
The GOP never respected Specter and he left the party. Now we get a lot of bitter "Don't let the door hit you" while Dems are literally laughing at Republicans who are smiling into irrelevance.
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| 15 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:39
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Your post #13 wasn't what what took it personal?
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| 16 | Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:41
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If I was a Republican who made a donation to him, I would want my money back.
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| 17 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 17:45
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Ask dems about that back when he was trying to be a dem voting for Iraq and Afghanistan.
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| 18 | Seattle Zen
ID: 323312910
Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 18:04
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If I was a Republican who made a donation to him, I would want my money back.
I read somewhere he was returning campaign contributions.
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| 19 | walk
ID: 403503014
Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 16:31
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I read somewhere that Specter is a socialist.
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| 20 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 16:50
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LOL
sorry that really made me smile, great post.
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| 21 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 17:12
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i read somewhere he's a muslim, and wasn't even born in this country...
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| 22 | DWetzel
ID: 278201415
Tue, May 05, 2009, 10:16
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Now I'm confused...
Can you at least decide if he is or isn't a traitor?
"In an effort to give a boost to any potential Democratic primary challenger, Specter's former colleagues in the Senate GOP launched a new campaign last week designed to highlight the consistency of his Republican record and his ties to President Bush and other party leaders."
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| 23 | Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, May 05, 2009, 16:32
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As long as covering up who killed a sitting President is not an important issue in Penn; he should do OK.
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| 24 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Tue, May 05, 2009, 18:53
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You totally lost me on that one, B7.
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| 25 | Building 7 in hiding
ID: 9329258
Tue, May 05, 2009, 20:30
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Specter is the one who came up with the magic bullet theory in the JFK shooting.
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| 26 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, May 06, 2009, 02:39
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A tool right to his bone marrow. And I'd have said that before he switched.
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| 27 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, May 06, 2009, 15:45
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If I was a Republican who made a donation to him, I would want my money back.
Hmmm I don't give an F about Specter, more so now that B7 enlightened about the K assassination but...
You vote for the letter R next to the name? Not the man? Not the soul? Not the integrity?
If his simply changing parties makes you want your campaign money back, then you are voting for marketing and mind control and not looking in the mans eyes.
Of course that's why I don't vote for any of them, I look in their eyes.
Saves having to ask for the campaign contribution back.
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| 28 | Mith
Dude
ID: 01629107
Fri, May 08, 2009, 08:38
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Some background on Jeff Sessions, poised to take Specter's spot as ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee
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