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Subject: Filibuster reform
Posted by: Perm Dude
- [5510572522] Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 14:38
The issue of filibuster reform (that is, a change in the Senate's rules regarding the ability of invoke cloture on a bill) has been bubbling for some time. Mostly this is pushed by younger senators (typically, of either party) who find the rules cumbersome, needless, and giving far too much power to the minority party.
Obama recently pointed out that there were more cloture votes last year than in the 1950's and 1960's combined. Since many of the GOP House members from the 80s and 90s started moving to the Senate and continuing the back row bomb throwing strategies they perfected in the lower house, this is an issue with a long track record.
That said, Senate Dems are unanimous in backing filibuster reform. This is an interesting new development that might finally push through reforms that will ensure the long-term health of that body.
First step, IMO, would be to take up Sen Merkley's suggestion about filibuster requirements. There is, at present, no work involved in calling for a filibuster. Making the minority party actually work for the filibuster seems to be the minimum we can do.
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| 1 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 14:40
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The Daily Dish just posted this as I was typing out my post. Worth a look for some background.
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| 2 | DWetzel
ID: 278201415 Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 17:34
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I have never understood the custom which has arisen of merely allowing a phantom filibuster. If a senator or senators want to pull a Mr. Smith, more power to them I say -- there are valid reasons that such a system was first created -- but make them actually put in the effort. That way, the stupid filibusters will go away for the most part (because really, who wants to go through that stuff for a stupid reason), and the procedure will remain in place for the really important times.
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| 3 | Seattle Zen Leader
ID: 055343019 Fri, Dec 24, 2010, 16:50
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Here, here. The Senate is completely dysfunctional. Change the rules now.
“I am definitely planning to pursue the Constitutional option on the first legislative day,” said Senator Tom Udall of New Mexico, one of several Democrats elected in 2006 and 2008 who have spent months mapping how to overhaul the Senate process. “What will happen as the result of that will depend on the 99 other senators.”
Mr. Udall and others say they do not intend to seek any change that would overturn the Senate’s fundamental requirement that it takes 60 votes to cut off debate and force a final vote on a disputed bill or nomination.
But they say they want, at a minimum, to speed up debate over the initial attempt to bring a measure to the floor and to force senators to be on the floor debating if they are blocking a measure, much like Jimmy Stewart did in the movie “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.” By contrast, the modern version of the filibuster allows seemingly endless breaks in floor activity with rows of empty desks as a backdrop.
“If you have a passion for something and you want to stand up and rouse the country, then you have to do it,” Mr. Udall said.
Another change under consideration would end the practice of secret “holds,” which allows a single senator to block any piece of legislation or nominee. This change has drawn bipartisan support in recent months.
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| 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 12:00
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Udall begins the process of changing the rules today.
Three important elements:
-an end to secret "holds" -a filibuster can only occur after debate begins (in other words, a filibuster cannot be used to prevent debate from beginning) -the party holding the filibuster needs to actually hold the floor to do so.
Simple but important steps, IMO.
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| 5 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620 Wed, Jan 05, 2011, 20:08
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all 3, are as they should have been all along IMHO.
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| 6 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Fri, Jan 28, 2011, 00:48
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Senate votes to get rid of secret holds.
A good step. Hopefully, they will keep it up.
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