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Subject: Endorsements
Posted by: Perm Dude
- [109562010] Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 12:00
For Obama:
Bryan/College Station (TX) Eagle
Every 20 or 30 years or so, a leader comes along who understands that change is necessary if the country is to survive and thrive. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the 20th century and his cousin Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan -- these leaders have inspired us to rise to our better nature, to reach out to be the country we can be and, more important, must be.
Barack Obama is such a leader. He doesn't have all the answers, to be sure, but at least he is asking the right questions. While we would like more specificity on his plans as president, we are confident that he can lead us ever forward, casting aside the doubts and fears of recent years. |
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| 25 | DWetzel
ID: 33337117
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:18
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But, they agree with him, therefore they can't possibly be part of the faceless group that he demonizes.
Duh.
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| 26 | Tree
ID: 389152019
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 20:19
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This election for the media is a game changer.
whatever. what changed the game with your so-called biased media was turning a blind eye to all of Bush's lies - lies that have cost the deaths of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.
if the media had any f*cking balls 5 years ago, they woulda seriously questioned bush and his fellow criminals, but people like you would have been so quick to call them anti-american.
You just make things up as they suit you.
i'm so glad there wasn't a question mark at the end of that statement.
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| 27 | Boldwin
ID: 44916136
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 22:03
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PV
You can't tell any difference between Fox, and ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN?
Of course you can, when it doesn't suit your purpose to be dense about it.
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| 28 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 22:28
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You can't tell any difference between Fox, and ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN?
They're more bias, but they're still mainstream media, as is Clear Channel, which owns Premiere radio networks, which either owns or syndicates almost every right wing radio show. Or did you really think there was an EIB network?
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| 29 | Boldwin
ID: 419402022
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 23:42
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They need an exit strategy even more than they know.
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| 30 | Perm Dude
ID: 109562010
Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 23:43
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As do you, B. As do you.
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| 31 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 11:45
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Let's resurrect this old thing.
Colin Powell re-ups with Obama.
Detroit News endorses Romney, while ripping him a new one on his bailout stance.
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| 32 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 12:48
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McCain admits to not being alive during the Bush Administration, in ripping Powell endorsement.
“General Powell, you disappoint us and you have harmed your legacy even further by defending what is clearly the most feckless foreign policy in my lifetime,” McCain told Brian Kilmeade on his radio program.
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| 33 | Razor
ID: 177192916
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 14:46
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McCain has gone from admired independent Sentator to angry ol' coot in just a few short years. At least he's not embarrassing as Zell Miller yet.
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| 34 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 15:42
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McCain, is simply reacting to his parties steady march into irrelevancy. The GOP has shifted far to the right, and McCain is shifting now with them. Sad really.
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| 35 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 16:14
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Waiting for Fox News to say Powell supports him just cause he's African-American - in spite of his policies.
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| 36 | Boldwin
ID: 349252518
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 19:45
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Considering Obama's positions vs Powell's, especially wrt Iran and Afghanistan before Obama was president it's hard to think of any reason besides race that would put Powell in Obama's.
When someone tells you, 'I consider myself a Republican', that 'consider' is their way of lying.
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| 37 | Tree
ID: 569502516
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 21:02
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When someone tells you, 'I consider myself a Republican', that 'consider' is their way of lying.
you're the expert on lying, so i'll trust you on this one.
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| 38 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 21:06
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So a black man couldn't endorse Obama for any other reason than race.
Same for a white man, I suppose? Or are you going full racist on us today?
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| 39 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 23:45
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Must be why Boldwin supports Romney, cause he's white?
that didn't take long...
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| 40 | Pancho Villa
ID: 59645318
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 10:31
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Peggy Noonan, who endorsed Obama in 2008, delivers a rather scathing analysis outlining some fundamental weaknesses in the President's style and execution.
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| 41 | Pancho Villa
ID: 59645318
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:06
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This endorsement could put Romney over the top.
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| 42 | Mith
ID: 98342014
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 13:18
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Considering Obama's positions vs Powell's, especially wrt Iran and Afghanistan before Obama was president...
WAPO Oct 2007On the eve of the 2004 presidential elections, then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell secretly attempted to shift U.S. policy on Iran by telling key allies he wanted to offer "carrots" to the Islamic Republic to halt its nuclear ambitions, former U.N. ambassador John R. Bolton writes in his soon-to-be-published memoir.
Bolton, then undersecretary of state, says that he worked hard to thwart Powell's plans -- only to discover, to his dismay, that Powell's replacement, Condoleezza Rice, would pursue the same approach in President Bush's second term. I can only imagine what B thinks Powell's Afghanistan positions were prior to 2009.
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| 43 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 14:09
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I agree with Noonan that he may not be particularly talented at negotiation. I disagree that Republicans were open to any. That she takes the Republican Senator's word for it says more than anything about the quality of the analysis. I very distinctly remember Obama offering, over and over, nearly exactly what the Republicans had asked for the previous month, only to have them move the goal posts as soon as Obama offered them exactly what they wanted.
There was absolutely no way they were ever going to willingly give Obama a win. He may not be a skilled negotiator, or perhaps he saw no benefit to trying, after seeing how his attempts at compromise were greeted.
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| 44 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 14:19
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That's exactly right. Taking Obama to task for not bringing people together is attacking the wrong person. One only needs to look at how much legislation, appointments, budgets, etc the GOP has held up to see which party has offered up solutions and which party has offered up obstruction.
The GOP thinks they can simply lie about their clear strategy of being the party of "no."
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| 45 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 15:13
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re 41...I've seen that commmercial and it is powerful. It is also, a false narrative. Obama, is not a socialist. Now the question is, how many independents, think he is? Those are the ones, that commercial would sway.
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| 46 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 15:20
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"...and Mitt rhymes with tit! and I have two of those. Just kidding."
I think he was kidding, Sarge.
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| 47 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 15:31
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May well have been, but I do think that commercial will impact a number of indies. How many? That is the 64 thousand dollar question.
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| 48 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 15:38
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Very, very few undecided are going to cast votes at this point. The name of the game is GOTV until the election--whipping up the base and getting people to the polls.
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| 49 | Mith
ID: 98342014
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 15:56
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Frankenstorm throws a bit of a wrench into this for the Prez. You know the opposition is drolling over the prospect of anything resembling a 'heckofajob Brownie' momnet.
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| 50 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 22:23
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Chicago Tribune endorses Obama--only the second time they have endorsed a Democrat for President.
The previous time? Obama in 2008.
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| 52 | Tree
ID: 5399279
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 10:23
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you find it amazing the Hyde Park newspaper endorses him?
the Tribune, throughout history, has endorsed game-changing candidates, not the least of which was Republican Abe Lincoln and his belief in the abolition of slavery.
you can go back to the original endorsement to see why they support Obama - it has less to do where he's from, and more to do with the fact that the Republicans - in 2008 it was overspending, in 2012 it's cowtowing to the most radical elements in the party - have simply "lost (their) way".
The Republican Party, the party of limited government, has lost its way. The government ran a $237 billion surplus in 2000, the year before Bush took office -- and recorded a $455 billion deficit in 2008. The Republicans lost control of the U.S. House and Senate in 2006 because, as we said at the time, they gave the nation rampant spending and Capitol Hill corruption. They abandoned their principles. They paid the price.
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| 53 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 12:57
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They endorsed Obama because there is no other conservative running.
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| 54 | Boldwin
ID: 119522712
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 14:33
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The Republican Party, the party of limited government, has lost its way.
Well yeah, we've only managed to get two conservatives ever nominated for president. Goldwater and Reagan. The party of limited government on the national stage was only so for three election cycles and 8 years of administration. Twelve if you count Kennedy.
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| 55 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 15:11
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Lets give you the benefit of the doubt, and stipulate that 54 is entirely true and correct. What then, does that tell you about YOUR particular brand of "conservatism"?
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| 56 | Boldwin
ID: 359552714
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 15:59
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That they don't have rich friends.
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| 57 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 16:15
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I did run across the Koch bros at the soup line the other day, so there's that.
Of course, all they were doing was sneaking over and watering down.
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| 58 | Boldwin
ID: 359552714
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 16:37
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That they don't have enuff rich friends.
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| 59 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 16:37
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And Adelson's going broke too I hear
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| 60 | Boldwin
ID: 359552714
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 17:27
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Better to go for broke now than to let Obama tax it all away.
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| 61 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 17:32
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A bump from 35 to 39%, does not constitute taxing it all away. Particularly, when the reduction under Bush was SUPPOSED to be temporary.
Please cease with the utter falsities, and either enjoin in real discourse, or step away from your keyboard.
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| 62 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 23:53
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He's hoping to elect guys who will make the investigation go away.
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| 63 | Boldwin
ID: 5399283
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 04:19
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SUPPOSED to be temporary
That's not the way we saw it. Ever.
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| 64 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 13:37
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That's not the way we saw it. Ever.
Perhaps not. But the law was passed with a time limitation on it.
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| 65 | Boldwin
ID: 5399283
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 14:02
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Of course. The premise was, [the compromise language was what it was because] if Dems won in the future, taxes would go back up, if Reps won, the cuts would stay.
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| 66 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 14:45
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Maybe. I'm sure the Republicans thought they could somehow always keep taxes lower and lower and run the kind of government they wanted. But their math didn't (and doesn't) add up.
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| 67 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 15:03
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NY Times, no surprise, endorses Obama. But their editorial is as detailed an endorsement as I've seen from any paper.
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| 68 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Oct 28, 2012, 17:05
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Columbus Dispatch endorses Romney.
Central Ohio is fairly evenly divided between Democrats & Republicans. Hard to tell how this will play out, but it certainly can't hurt and Romney must be pleased to get their endorsement.
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| 69 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Nov 01, 2012, 16:19
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The Economist endorses Obama
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| 70 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Nov 01, 2012, 16:23
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Mayor Bloomberg endorses Obama
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| 71 | Pancho Villa
ID: 59645318
Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 10:21
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The Economist endorses Obama
This endorsement is lukewarm, and takes Obama to task for much of his 1st term.
No administration in many decades has had such a poor appreciation of commerce. Previous Democrats, notably Bill Clinton, raised taxes, but still understood capitalism. Bashing business seems second nature to many of the people around Mr Obama. If he has appointed some decent people to his cabinet—Hillary Clinton at the State Department, Arne Duncan at education and Tim Geithner at the Treasury—the White House itself has too often seemed insular and left-leaning.
Given this analysis, and Romney's pro-business, pro-free market positions, one has to wonder how in the world a financial publication could possibly endorse Obama over Romney.
For all his businesslike intentions, Mr Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says. That is not a convincing pitch for a chief executive.
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| 72 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 11:27
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I think the answer was said later, better the devil you know then the devil you don't and I think more than anything that is going to get Obama reelected.
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| 73 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 11:57
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Its the kind of thing which carried Bush to his second term--people feel kind of in the middle of it and are leaning toward keeping the same guy to see this through.
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| 74 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 15:41
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List of endorsements by major newspapers
The Washington Post rips Romney a new one.
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| 75 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167
Fri, Nov 02, 2012, 23:06
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Israel's Oldest Daily Newspaper Endorses Obama
Here's a key passage:
Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, assisted Israel's defense by toppling Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and deterring, albeit for a limited period, Iran's accelerated progress toward attaining nuclear weapons. Bush contributed to Israel's peace, even if partially, by being the first president to adopt the two-state solution. His support even enabled the evacuation of settlements from the Gaza Strip and northern West Bank.
Obama continued this two-way track vis-a-vis Iran and the issue of Palestinian statehood. Under his pressure, Israel suspended for the first time - for a while - construction in the settlements. Relations between the two countries' armed forces have never been so close. Obama's challenge in his second term, if he wins the elections, is to lead the region to a stable arrangement of peace and security.
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