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0 Subject: DHS Whistleblower - Admin Creating Violence

Posted by: Boldwin
- [3944693] Thu, May 10, 2012, 18:14

See, the violence inherent in the system.

Doug Hagmann at the Canada Free Press says a high level Department of Homeland Security insider is blowing the whistle on DHS preparations for a “civil war.”
I’ve known this government insider since 1979, when he first became a municipal patrol officer. He took a job in a bigger city and had a very successful run as a cop. Before retirement and after the events of 9/11, he was tapped by the feds, where he worked in various capacities under the umbrella of DHS. He worked his way up, and suddenly found himself in what he terms the inner sanctum of the “TEC” building. TEC, he explains, is an acronym for what he calls “The Estrogen Challenged,” which houses the upper echelon of the Department of Homeland Security. I’ll leave it at that.

According to my source, there is talk among the highest levels of the uppermost echelon of the Department of Homeland Security, which he describes as effectively under the control of Barack Hussein Obama. During this call, he said that the DHS is actively preparing for massive social unrest inside the United States. He then corrected himself, stating that “a civil war” is the more appropriate term. Certain elements of the government are not only expecting and preparing for it, they are actually facilitating it,” stated my source.

“The DHS takes their marching orders from the Obama administration, from Obama himself, but mostly from his un-appointed czars. And Jarrett, especially Valerie Jarrett. Don’t think for a minute that the administration is doing anything to stabilize events in the U.S. They are revolutionaries, and revolutionaries thrive on chaos,” he added.

My source stated that he has not seen things this bad since he began working within DHS. “It’s like they [DHS agency heads] don’t care about what the American people see or feel about what the DHS agencies are doing. They figure that if the average American will put up with being “sexually groped and nuked” just to fly, they’ll accept almost anything. “That’s why their actions are becoming more overt. “It’s in your face and the brass actually chuckle about it” said my source.

Using untracked campaign funds, they are paying people to infiltrate the various movements to cause physical destruction of property and disrupt commerce. That began last year, but has increased ten-fold already this year,” stated this source. He added that they are using some lower level DHS agents to make the payments under the context of tracking subversives, but they are the unwitting subversives. “It’s like Fast & Furious” but in the social realm,” he added.

“Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution. I heard several times through very credible sources that [Louis] Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll. Other have been named as well, but I’m not prepared to identify them yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the Blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer, using any means necessary.”

“Mentioned at the meeting Saturday were methods to use pawns to simulate the rioting in the Arab Spring countries, but to the benefit of this administration. A controlled chaos thing,” stated my source. They envision rioting starting in the urban areas first, such as New York and other major cities, followed by a disruption of business and commerce. This will allow the DHS to mobilize their various teams into the streets of America without objection of the people,” stated my source.

They want to restrict travel, if not through high energy prices, then by checkpoints and curfews mandated by rioting and unrest. They understand we are the most well-armed nation in the world, yet they are aware of our vulnerabilities and intend to fully exploit them,” he added. The whole purpose is to keep Obama in office for another term, no matter how unpopular he is, as he is not finished changing our country from a Constitutional Republic. This is the run-up to the 2012 elections, or perhaps causing enough chaos to delay them - indefinitely.”

One statement that rattled me more than anything was that a great number of those already in power, whether in appointed or elected positions, actually want to see Obama stay in power, according to this source. “This is what we’ve been working toward and we’re closer now than we’ve ever been. If we lose now, we might not have another chance.”

“The Obama administration is working closely with Bernanke, Geithner and others not to save our economy, but to outright destroy it. He is not the first or only one to try this, but the most effective and most vetted for that purpose. Do you actually think that the fact that Timothy Geithner’s father worked with Obama’s mother in Indonesia was coincidental,” stated my source rhetorically. “What we’re seeing now is the fourth quarter of a game that started long ago, which also currently involves the Clintons. Obama would not be where he is if it were not for the Clintons, and to a lesser extent, Bush, but that’s for other reasons. Don’t be fooled, the Clintons never left or lost power,” he added.

“There are file drawers full of papers, heavily guarded papers at the ‘TEC building’ so I can only imagine what’s in them, about international financial dealings going back decades. I do know, or at least I was told, that they involve organizations that are the so-called conspiracy fringe groups, such as the Bilderberg group, the Trilateral Commission, and people including George Soros, Henry Kissinger, and current leaders of big industry. Some are fossils. They’ve been around a long time. Others are up-and-coming. They’ve got one thing in common, though, and that is to put in place a global system of governance, including a common currency. Economics is a huge part of this revolution, and they want to replace the dollar, to see it collapse. They expect, that is, they are working toward this very goal, and when this happens, it will cause chaos like never seen before in the history of this country.”

“Why do you think Jon Corzine is not only walking around, but heavily involved in Obama fundraising? They know it’s just a matter of time that Europe will implode economically, and when it does, start counting the days before we see massive hyperinflation and the ultimate collapse of the U.S. dollar,” stated this insider. “What will it look like in the streets of America when the general population realizes that there is no money? That’s right, chaos.”

“Remember the shots fired at the White House not too long ago?” asked my source. There was an element of outrage that was squandered, according to ‘team Obama.’ In fact, Obama and some of his closest advisors, especially [Valerie] Jarrett were incredibly angered that the outrage was seemingly tempered. It should have been an opportunity to use our force against the Tea Parties, the gun clingers, the Constitutionalists, and everyone who has complained about Obama. DHS should have stepped in right then, and used that event to start the clampdown,” this source stated about White House comments.

This source stated that from that point on, the DHS must become more responsive and aggressive.

Watch for a false flag event against Obama or his family, something that will outrage ‘black America.’ It will be carefully choreographed, but executed in a manner that will evoke the ugliest of reactions and create racial chaos in this country that will make the Watts riots, 1968 and the Rodney King riots pale in comparison. That’s the third leg in this.”
The planned end-game

Does Obama look worried about the upcoming elections? Look at his lavish vacations, his limited work schedule, and those with whom he is working. This is a very dangerous man who has, as his closest advisors, people who have orchestrated the revolutions of the 1960s. They know the “trigger points” in America.

The Obama administration, including his czars and along with his closets Progressive supporters, are planning a manufactured insurgency against America. He is using the media to his advantage to garner both sympathy and support for his unfinished goals. He is desperately seeking a way to remain in office, even if it means the surreal prospect of an indefinite postponement of elections - if it can be pulled off. So far, he’s got the support of the majority of the DHS “brass” behind him, according to my source.

“They’re power hungry, and they want to remain in charge,” stated this source.

The “surreal” aspect of suspended elections won’t look so surreal when you see any or all of the “trigger points” take place in the not-so-distant future.

“The end-game plan for America is its destruction as a Constitutional Republic, with the assistance of the agencies under the umbrella of the DHS.”

My sourced stated one more thing that seemed to tie things together. He urged me to recall the quote by Henry Kissinger who was speaking at a Bilderberg meeting at Evian, France, on 21 May 1992:

Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.
1Seattle Zen
      ID: 37421017
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 18:24
Do you actually think that the fact that Timothy Geithner’s father worked with Obama’s mother in Indonesia was coincidental,

LMAO! The whole thing is hilarious.
2Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 18:34
You have to wonder where we'd be already if George Zimmerman and/or Jared Lee Loughner were who the admin was hoping they were.

I expect they'll manufacture a more perfect foil before summer's over.
3Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 19:24
Of course they will. Now, go refill your prescriptions.
4Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 19:26
I loved this line, by the way:

According to my source, there is talk among the highest levels of the uppermost echelon of the Department of Homeland Security, which he describes as effectively under the control of Barack Hussein Obama.

You mean to say the President of the United States is secretly in charge of a department in his own executive branch? Damn. Now that's a scoop.
5Tree
      ID: 234241018
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 19:29
6Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 19:38
Bill Ayers---> attacks Rahm Emanuel's Chicago----> over Obama's NATO.

This you take at face value...

Tell me how you manage that?...

But a DHS whistleblower tells you Obama is the same old University of Columbia/Acorn radical he always was...and that's just crazy talk in your estimation.
7Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 19:49
Yes, it is. Your source is saying that Obama will cause rioting in the United States in order to ensure his reelection.

Indeed: The definition of crazy.

8Tree
      ID: 17039238
      Thu, May 10, 2012, 22:28
i'm intrigued. keep posting Baldwin.

:: munches popcorn ::
9Frick
      ID: 14082314
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 08:18
I really should go purchase some Alcoa stock.
10Tree
      ID: 17039238
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 08:41
:OD
11C1-NRB
      ID: 451120913
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 14:07
I see a lot of conspiratorial jargon, which is typical of conspiratorists. I'm no Columbo or Monk, so I fail to connect the dots to a motive.

What is your antagonist's motive? World domination? One MILLION dollars?
12Tree
      ID: 54591114
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 16:07
What is your antagonist's motive?


to give us people to laugh at?
13Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 17:57
Your source is saying that Obama will cause rioting in the United States in order to ensure his reelection.

Indeed: The definition of crazy.


It's crazy that a radical would stir up unrest.

Yeah that's crazy. We've never seen that before.

*munches popcorn*

It's what they live to do. It was his professional job before corrupt Illinois politicians made him a Senator.
14Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 18:04
Ah yes, I remember the Chicago riots of 2004 well. Didn't they rape Alan Keyes right in the street, then dump his body off Sears Tower?

You're the Harold Camping of political prognostication these days.
15sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Fri, May 11, 2012, 18:04
?
16Tree
      ID: 17039238
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 00:08
It's crazy that a radical would stir up unrest.

you are significantly more radical than Obama will ever be.
17Mith
      ID: 23217270
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 00:54
Obama wants black people to riot and for the world to erupt in chaos the summer before he hopes to be re-elected. Makes so much sense I can't believe it didnt occur to me 3 years ago that this would be his plan.
18Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 07:41
Yeah, radicals would never want to create the false impression of a militant popular uprising calling for revolutionary changes.

*sarc* Unthinkable.

They hardly do anything else.
19Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 07:42
And it did occur to me three years ago.
20Tree
      ID: 17039238
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 08:01
:oD
21Mith
      ID: 23217270
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 10:39
The only reason to invent a "false impression of a militant popular uprising" among supposedly like-minded groups that I could think of is to attain power.

But if the creator of the "false impression" already holds what is regarded as the most powerful political office in the world - and is also up for reelection to that office...

I guess this hasnt occurred to you in the past three years but I'm pretty sure descending the country into chaos (or making it look that way) is probably not a sound reelection strategy.
22Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 15:16
Assuming you even need an election.

Nice trial balloon, Gov.
23Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 15:30
Rudy Guliani did the same thing after 2001.
24sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 15:39
off this topic, but a more relevant link, from B's link above:

Min Wage bought what? 1950s to 2010

under 60 hrs labor for rent in 1950...almost 3 weeks labor, in 2010.
25Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 15:56
This would be Sarge warming up to the DHS plan.
26sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Sat, May 12, 2012, 16:27
no, that owuld be Sarge dismissing your claim as bogus, but finding a relevant article from that link.
27Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 09:13
Barack Obama is clearly without a doubt the most radical left wing President this country has ever had. [sigh]

He cut the payroll tax by 2 percentage points.
At least 1/3 of the stimulus package was tax cuts or tax incentives.
He kills terrorists in bulk quantities.
Gitmo is still going as strong as ever.
He signed the free trade agreements with Columbia and South Korea.

The country is flat broke and the right is shocked that Obama is talking about raising taxes on rich people. At least he's being honest about what needs to be done. Yes spending needs to cut and cut more than by what we increase in revenue via tax increases, but that won't do it alone

So while yes he does things a Democrat would do like Obamacare and talk about taxing rich people more, I would not consider him a far left wing radical unless we are talking about a gubernatorial election in Alabama.
28Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 09:35
Talk to his czars about that.
29Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 10:26
Ronald Reagan appointed the first drug czar. Saul Alinksy must have been a regular at the July 4th BBQ in the Reagan family.

Every President has had czars going back to FDR.
30Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 15:25
Not czars whose personal hero was Mao Tse-Tung.
31Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 15:59
That's a strawman. Judge people by what they do.

A czar under Reagan is as much of an unelected person as a czar under Obama. The only difference is that the czar under Obama doesn't agree with you, but the anxiety about Obama is just fear mongering. If he was as white as the fallen snow and from central Iowa he would be just another Democrat.

The guy walked into a complete disaster because business has run roughshot over this country for the past thirty years making the middle class an endangered species.

Look at the leadership of this country and ask yourself if its any wonder why things are worse:

Ronald Reagan - pro business Republican
George Bush Sr - pro business Republican
Bill Clinton - pro business Democrat (NAFTA)
George Bush Jr - pro business Republican

And gradually over the past thirty years, the living standard for the middle class has gotten worse. Yes I know we all have ipads and broadband internet now, but both parents have to work, in most cases if you get really sick you go BK, and your employer gives you two weeks vacation per year. Half of that vacation time for a lot of people gets swallowed up because you need to take a day off because life happens like the cable goes out and the guy can only show up from 8 - 4 or the kid gets sick and has to stay home from school.

Part of me WISHES that Obama was actually what the right makes him out to be, but he is not. The system needs a guy to scare it to death.

Are we better off because the pro business Presidents allow tax deductions to close factories in Ohio to move them to China? Are we better off that the 1% control more wealth than ever? Is it a good thing that both parents have to work, health insurance is through the roof and you get 10 days max per year off?

A President like how Barack Obama is portrayed by the right is exactly what the right deserves for what they've allowed to happen over the last thirty years. I would also add on to that my desire for his name to something like Tyrone Williams, with a gold grill for teeth, a smoking hot white wife with blonde hair, and three beautiful mixed race children. Your head would explode.
32sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 16:04
no idea who that is ^, but I like him! lol
33Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 16:39
My hero has heat vision, can leap tall buildings in a single bound, has a thing for female reporters that wear tight clothes, wears his underwear on the outside of his pants, and lives in a fortress in either the Artic Circle or Antartica I'm not sure, but he is really allergic to alien minerals. Am I czar material?
34Mith
      ID: 37838313
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 17:32
Nice to see you posting again, Controlled Bursts. Much better moniker choice this time.
35Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 17:48
Thanks! Had to post about the Obama thing. Its just not true that he's some radical commie.
36Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 20:24
Which of his influences and mentors growing up wasn't a radical commie? Especially among his heroes?

They all were. If he isn't, how and when did he escape their influence?
37Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 20:26
And considering Bill Ayers and Obama ended up working on the same boards and projects, how could Obama's career path have been any more radical commie? It's the same path Bill Ayers was on.
38Controlled Bursts
      ID: 41613226
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 20:57
Boldwin: I will not judge Barack Obama by who his friends, professors, mentors and associates were as he was growing up. You're right that there are leftist people in his background. I freely admit that. I WILL judge Barack Obama by how HE governs the country and based on what he's done as President he is not what the right paints him out to be.

Barack Obama is no more an extreme leftist than George W. Bush was a conservative.

Given that Obama was born in the early 60s, it would shock me if mainstream Republicans would be accepting of some funny looking black kid with an arabic sounding name. What's the guy supposed to do? Look at his life experiences growing up. Tell me with a straight that if a guy named Barack Hussein Obama tried to join the same club that Mitt Romney was involved with that he would have been taken seriously.

People come from different backgrounds all the time in this country and make a difference. That's why this country is so great.

Obama is the true American "rags to riches" story. The guy is legit. Look at what he's overcome in his life! Aren't you at least proud of that?

There are Muslims, gays, Jews, blacks, Scientologists, atheists, gangbangers, free masons, Mormons, Evangelicals, Catholics, VietNam draft dodgers and VietNam soldiers amongst people I either grew up with or worked for/with in my life. That doesn't make me any of those groups. It means that those are the people I knew in my past.

When Obama comes out and says "death panels", "born in Kenya", and "communism for all" then I will judge him for that.

But to sit there and fear monger on a guy that talks about trying to make life better for regular people and wants the same socio-economic class responsible for the recession to pay for the recession just sounds like partisanship. Nothing more.

Now if you want to not like his policies based on things that he has done I think you can make some really good points. The guy inherited a disaster but he's not perfect.

But I do think he's the better option than a guy (for the record Mitt Romney's policies are known to change frequently so just hold me to the time stamp on this post) who actually believes that eliminating a few token government agencies and cutting taxes will balance the budget.
39sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 20:59
Let me get this straight B; Romney's having been a rich pr*ck bully in HS is irrelevant, but people you claim Obama associated with when he was like 8 yrs old, *IS* relevant. Is that about right?
40Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 21:10
Boldwin is more interested in his "influences," despite the fact that there seems to be little influence in the direction he fears.

When the Far Right doesn't have any proof except except their fears to project, this is the kind of stuff we'll get.
41Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 21:34
The MSM would rather chew off both of their arms than write an expose of Obama's youth. Why anyone thinks we should care about anything Axelrod digs up when they give Obama a complete pass...

These games won't work with the public for that reason.
42Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 21:44
The truth seems to not matter anymore. Why do you put your faith on hold when you go on these boards?
43Tree
      ID: 17039238
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 22:28
Why do you put your faith on hold when you go on these boards?

because he lost it long ago, but still crows about it in an effort to feel less guilty about what he's become?
44Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 23:19
Maybe. I find that many on the Rabid Right only use their faith as a form of shield--to keep them from having to think too much. While my God is a God of love, theirs is a God of vengeance, a supernatural wing man who will come with sword, fire, and harsh words to back up every single one of their political choices.

Jesus' call to love is supposed to be difficult (you know, love those who would do you and your love ones harm, et al). Faith isn't difficult for these people despite their intense goal of being martyrs. It is the politics that is hard, and they have confused politics and faith beyond untangling.
45sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Sun, May 13, 2012, 23:25
I found this yesterday. Seems surprisingly appropriate here at the moment:

"I like your Christ. I dislike your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ"...Ghandi

Listen to a story he retells in that book:

Gandhi and Reverend Andrews, a Presbyterian missionary, were walking together in South Africa. “The two suddenly find their way blocked by young thugs. Reverend Andrews takes one look at the menacing gangsters and decides to run for it. Gandhi stops him. ‘Doesn’t the New Testament say if an enemy strikes you on the right cheek you should offer him the left?’ Andrews mumbles that he thought the phrase was used metaphorically. ‘I’m not so sure,’ Gandhi replies. ‘I suspect he meant you must show courage - be willing to take a blow, several blows, to show you will not strike back nor will you be turned aside. And when you do that it calls on something in human nature, something that makes his hatred decrease and his respect increase. I think Christ grasped that and I have seen it work.’”
46Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 08:35
Actually it was about enduring insults peacefully, not about accepting martyrdom unnecessarily.

And it is difficult loving those who are trying to turn this country into a totalitarian state. I saw that movie many times in the past in other countries. The results weren't pretty and it is hard forgiving those who would deliberately revisit those terrors here on these shores. No matter their rationalizations.
47Tree
      ID: 5241149
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 10:03
And it is difficult loving those who are trying to turn this country into a totalitarian state. I saw that movie many times in the past in other countries. The results weren't pretty and it is hard forgiving those who would deliberately revisit those terrors here on these shores. No matter their rationalizations.

substitute "totalitarian" with "theocracy" and you've nailed that 100 percent...
48Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 10:24
Oh yeah, the voting power of the non-voting block. You really have a lot to fear from that quarter.
49Tree
      ID: 5241149
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 10:37
Oh yeah, the voting power of the non-voting block. You really have a lot to fear from that quarter.

1. if you don't vote, don't b!tch. if you don't exercise your rights, quite frankly, your complaints are lame.

2. plenty of people vote based on their religious beliefs. how on earth can you can that this is a non-voting block?
50sarge33rd
      ID: 353491011
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 11:00
re 46...yes, I know what it is about AND, I knew full well you would claim to be doing just that and suffering martyrdom for it.

Your extremist views of everything even slightly left of center, as being communist/socialist/marxist/leninist; is in fact B pure and unadulterated horse-sh*t. Once you recognize that simple truth, perhaps then one could have an intelligent discussion with you. I fear however, that until you learn such, then such a discussion is impossible.
51Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 17:07
Try doing actual research of what Alinsky was teaching and by extention, Obama who was teaching Alinsky. Alinsky was along with Gramsci the two leading proponents of the slow path to communist takeover of the west.

Try doing actual research of what his mentor Bill Ayers was teaching and doing. Ayers was a guiding light in the communist youth movement and remains so unapologetically to this day.

Try doing actual research into what his mentor Frank Marshall Davis, a guiding light in the black marxist circles (perhaps second only to Paul Robeson), meant to shaping Obama's identity and career path.

Try doing actual research into what Barack Obama Sr meant to communism Kenya. He was the highest ranking, hardest line communist in the first post-colonial Kenya government.

He himself said in his book that at college he hung out with the most radical professors.

Frankly the burden is on you to find anyone who shaped him who wasn't an extreme communist. I can't think of any. His grandparents took him to the 'little red church' and found the communist leaning highschool which they located the family around. Seriously, find any influence on him that wasn't communist.
52Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Mon, May 14, 2012, 17:38
Frankly the burden is on you to find anyone who shaped him who wasn't an extreme communist

Actually, the burden is on you to find that Obama is an actual communist proposing and passing actual communistic laws.

Because isn't that the point? What would be the point of showing that someone was steeped in radical associations (like Gingrich, for instance) if really the point is to show that the person themselves are radical?

And if that persons actual actions, speeches, and proposals aren't radical? Sounds like you have a problem with your guilt-by-association game.
53Boldwin
      ID: 7415265
      Sun, May 26, 2013, 07:09
The only thing the DHS has accomplished is to threaten our security.
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