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Posted by: Boldwin
- [3944693] Sat, May 19, 2012, 18:32

Worldwide muslim perpetrated holocaust.

Month of April 2012
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52Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Tue, May 22, 2012, 13:38
I know that makes you feel good. You just have to question why it does.

It isn't Christ-centered. And if it isn't Christ-centered, you are fooling yourself.
53Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Tue, May 22, 2012, 13:49
I wish I could give you the benefit of the doubt, but you are just too eager to join with the spirit of the air, the broad and spacious path and not at all inclined to take the narrow and cramped path.
54Boldwin
      ID: 3944693
      Sat, May 26, 2012, 15:44
Burma

America amazingly just dropped...no longer sanctions Burma. You wonder how much of this sort of thing has contributed to America's wealth over it's lifetime. A good counter to those who believe America is God's favored nation.
55Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Sat, May 26, 2012, 20:17
Link doesn't work. Here's another, from VOA.
56Boldwin
      ID: 1611501822
      Tue, Dec 18, 2012, 23:50
"I'll see your Golden Rule and raise you...wait er...we don't have a Golden Rule but...
Grand Ayatollah Declares All Christian Women May be Raped
57bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 09:02
Christians believe slain Newtown principal deserved to die

No more of a stretch than post 56
58Boldwin
      ID: 141135191
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 13:30
Calling Westboros christian is indeed a stretch too far.
59Tree
      ID: 531119199
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 14:03
Calling Westboros christian is indeed a stretch too far.

and there are folks who think you calling yourself a Christian a stretch.

who decides these things on this plane?
60Boldwin
      ID: 141135191
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 14:46
Even if every last thing they said was correct, they wouldn't have to go out of their way to cause intentional and avoidable grief at a funeral. That doesn't further their putative cause nor does it enhance God's reputation, the primary thing, 'thy name be sanctified', first thing.

My personal theory is that their leader is consciously working against Christ and christianity.
61Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 15:41
Tragically America will never have Robert Bork on the SCOTUS as he died today.

We lost both the most important mind ever to have been denied the position and the most influential jurist who ever didn't get the seat.

The confirmation process has been broken permanently ever after.
62Tree
      ID: 531119199
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 15:42
Even if every last thing they said was correct, they wouldn't have to go out of their way to cause intentional and avoidable grief at a funeral.

says the guy who cheers someone's death.

how is that any different?
63Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 16:16
There is a difference between being glad Saddam Husein is gone, and knocking on his mother's door and slapping her in the face the day he hangs.
64bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 16:18
Of course calling Westboro Baptist representational of all Christians is also a stretch. That was just my point, because the guy you alluded to in 56 , a "Grand Ayatollah", is inferred to represent Muslims. You didn't add that the guy appears to be affiliated with some Syrian faction, but it’s unclear exactly which one, and has had his clashes with other Grand Ayatollahs.

Can you point out anywhere at all, your link or otherwise, where he actually declared that all Christian women may be raped? Or were you possibly doing a bit of stretching yourself?
65Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 16:22
As I read it, that us his exact stated position.

I did not state that every Islamic expert agrees in every situation all christian women are fair game, however in reality their only objection is usually as to what stage of islamic takeover the area happens to be. None of them can truthfully deny that the koran encourages rape as a tool of subjugation and conversion.
66Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 16:31
in reality their only objection is usually as to what stage of islamic takeover the area happens to be. None of them can truthfully deny that the koran encourages rape as a tool of subjugation and conversion.

In reality? You mean current reality as in 2012? That's what using the present tense verb "is"
implies. How low do you plan to go in making Muslims appear sub-human? Not that you've left much room.
67Tree
      ID: 3711491916
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 17:56
There is a difference between being glad Saddam Husein is gone, and knocking on his mother's door and slapping her in the face the day he hangs.

yea, we're not talking about Saddam.

i believe it was Arlen Specter who's death you celebrated.

that is a pretty scumbaggy thing to do.
68Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 22:15
PV

If you followed the atrocities being perpetrated on christians in muslim lands daily, as I do, you'd understand.
69Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 22:33
Like this?
70Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 03:30
Notice that you had to reach for one of the most atypical regions in all of islam to find that.

Overall, also from the north of Iraq...

Christian in Iraq face liquidation, * This webpage is dedicated to the slaughter of Iraqi Christians in the North of Iraq.

A new wave of Iraqi Christians has fled to northern Iraq or abroad amid a campaign of violence against them and growing fear that the country’s security forces are unable or, more ominously, unwilling to protect them.

Those who fled the latest violence — many of them in a panicked rush, with only the possessions they could pack in cars — warned that the new violence presages the demise of the faith in Iraq. Several evoked the mass departure of Iraq’s Jews after the founding of the state of Israel in 1948.

“It’s exactly what happened to the Jews,” said Nassir Sharhoom, 47, who fled last month to the Kurdish capital, Erbil, with his family from Dora, a once mixed neighborhood in Baghdad. “They want us all to go.”

This is your proof muslims are moderate now days and christians are safe around them...Iraq, and the tiny little enclave in that country they don't feel like they will wake up dead every morning?
71Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 09:32
This is your proof muslims are moderate now days and christians are safe around them

As a radical Christian, I realize you feel it's your duty to expose radical Muslims and provide blanket condemnations that fan the flames of hatred and mistrust. I'll be the first to admit that the radical elements of Islam are making your job pretty easy these days.

As someone who has a hope for a more peaceful world for my children, I'm compelled to point out the few areas where Muslims and Christians coincide in relative peace; where tolerance is considered honorable instead of blasphemous. Our friend Nerveclinic would be a better candidate for this role than me, as he has displayed over the past 5 or so years he's lived in the Muslim world.



72Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 10:49
There is no such thing as a radical christian. Once you get to genuine the needle stops moving. You have no more to fear from me than the Romans did from Jesus in the garden of Gethsemenane. The attempts to conflate christians with muslims is unfair an accusation as anything the devil has ever done.

What you won't admit to is that really scary and violent muslims are doing exactly what the koran tells them to do. There is no 'live by the sword, die by the sword, be peaceable with all men, let your reasonableness be known to all men, here, let me put your ear back on' moment in the koran. There are only 'slay the unbelievers in the name of allah the merciful' moments in the koran.
73Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 10:56
And frankly the really scary part is as soon as the MB have consolidated the power and opportunity you've given them, they are going to go to all those moderate muslims you are counting on, and give them a choice, 'join us in jihad or die'. At that point they will be as moderate and safe as a stoner in Viet Nam with a peace sign on his helmet and a machinegun pointed at the other side.
74bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:02
No such thing as a radical Christian? What you will never understand is that based on your posts in thread after thread, you are what 99.9% of society would actually define as radical. Just as the people in Westboro Baptist feel THEY are all knowing of the truth, you feel that you and the very few like you are the only ones.

I'd bet that everyone who reads this site know many who are not only conservative, but very conservative - and none of them are as far out there as you are.

You come across as not only radical, but intolerant and hateful. Do you not realize this?
75Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:19
True dat.
76Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:34
gethsemane
77Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:40
bibA

Two reasons.

Satan has turned the world's moral view upside down. Anyone recognising and pointing out evil is labeled judgemental and a hater. Sorry, it is necessary to hate evil to avoid it's temptation.

The Sandy Hook shooter did not hate the evil he was tempted to do enuff.

Reason 2. People who intend to turn the world against christianity conflate us with muslims.
78Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:42
Conversely those for whom nothing is forbidden can look very non-judgemental and mellow until they are doing you.
79Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:52
And frankly all you guys seething at me and calling me a racist every other moment, [me in my perfectly racially integrated life], don't look quite like the peace and love crowd from where I sit.
80Mith
      ID: 4310402110
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 11:53
#74: +1
82PV in GJ
      ID: 1010151016
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 15:56
There. are no "you guys" on this forum.
92Boldwin
      ID: 5111492117
      Fri, Dec 21, 2012, 21:15
93sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Fri, Dec 21, 2012, 22:23
Precisely why, I did not vote for his re-election.
94Tree
      ID: 2510132311
      Sat, Dec 29, 2012, 21:27
why we need to be more responsible with our words....

7 train Push victim appears to be a victim of a hate crime...
95Boldwin
      ID: 1054104
      Thu, Jan 10, 2013, 17:01
Honest imam without the mask:
Hisham el-Ashry is one of those rare creatures. An honest Muslim religious leader. There’s many things that you can say about him, but like most Salafis, he is one of the few who will actually tell you exactly what he believes. And in a genuinely horrifying way, that’s refreshing because with El-Ashry you’re getting a look down the throat of the beast with none of the sugarcoating.
He always greeted me cheerily, with a “Salaam” and a handshake. Eventually, we achieved a sort of unconventional friendship. “I hate you,” he told me in August, with a smile. “I hate all Jews and Christians, anyone who is not a Muslim.”
Hisham el-Ashry is quite honest about what the Islamic takeover of Egypt means for Christian women (not to mention liberal Muslim women)
“I was once asked: If I came to power, would I let Christian women remain unveiled? And I said: If they want to get raped on the streets, then they can,” Ashry told Nahar TV last week.

Introducing a Saudi-style anti-vice police force to enforce Islamic law was “not a bad thing”, he said, and added: “In order for Egypt to become fully Islamic, alcohol must be banned and all women must be covered.”
And even when they’re covered, they don’t stop being afraid of the charming fellow.


Hesham eventually excused himself to make us tea. As soon as he disappeared into the kitchen, the woman signaled me discreetly. “Do you have a phone number?” she whispered to me in English. “For emergency.” I could now see that her veil clung to her head a little lopsidedly, as if she had just started wearing it. I deduced two things: that she was Japanese, and that she was absolutely terrified of the man pouring us tea in the next room.
Don’t get the idea that Hisham el-Ashry is some backward nut with no exposure to the modern world. He immigrated to the United States in the 80s and lived in New York City for 25 years. And was only kicked out in 2009 for immigration violations.

In the United States, Hisham El-Ashry had the freedom to do what he couldn’t in Egypt. “He chose Brooklyn. And he liked it: No one minded when he casted aggressively for converts, and he could pray when and how he wished.” And Hisham El-Ashry, like all Islamists, uses whatever freedom he gains to deny it to others.
Hesham was a connoisseur of divine sadism and frightened me often with previews of hellfire. But he also cajoled me sweetly now and then, prodding me to say the shahada—“There is no god but God, and Muhammad is God’s messenger”—as soon as possible or, at the very latest, when I met the Blind Sheikh. (Prison authorities have denied my interview requests.)

“Just say it,” he said. “Repeat after me.”

“I can’t,” I said.

“Why not?”

“Because I don’t believe it’s true.”

“Doesn’t matter,” he replied. “Allah likes it when his slaves say this.”
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...only sees two scenarios in which Abdel Rahman is released. The first is that the US decides to admit its mistake in imprisoning the sheikh and finds a “nice-looking way” to let him out.

“The other way is, kidnap some Americans, slaughter some of them, if it’s important, and have American people in danger. Then America will say, ‘Sorry, here is the imam.’ Unfortunately, this is the way America listens.”
96DWetzel
      ID: 5411161018
      Thu, Jan 10, 2013, 17:53
"Hisham el-Ashry is one of those rare creatures. An honest Muslim religious leader."

Horrible racist bigoted drivel. Should be banned. Seriously.
97DWetzel
      ID: 5411161018
      Thu, Jan 10, 2013, 17:54
Seriously, and we've had this discussion before, the only difference between this and "sure, not ALL Jehovah's Witnesses support pedophile rapists" is that there aren't any Muslims on this board.

And, well, if the attitude continues, there never will be.
98Boldwin
      ID: 1054104
      Thu, Jan 10, 2013, 17:59
Not everyone carefully follows Taqiyya protocols. This imam is horrifying breath of fresh air.
99Boldwin
      ID: 261462818
      Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 19:46
Brave Sir Robin
100Boldwin
      ID: 261462818
      Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 20:25
No one gets the unfair media bias up and running thicker than an electrifying black republican candidate.

Funny how they never recognize real racism and real elitism and real exclusion of minorities.
101Boldwin
      ID: 83421518
      Tue, Apr 15, 2014, 19:42
A comprehensive understanding of taqiyya. Exactly how lying is rationalized in Islam and codified in the koran and haddiths.
102sarge33rd
      ID: 593111219
      Tue, Apr 15, 2014, 20:56
and how do YOU rationalize YOUR lies B?

DW above, is correct.
103Boldwin
      ID: 83421518
      Tue, Apr 15, 2014, 21:30
The Greek word for “slanderer” or “accuser” is di·a′bo·los. The word is also used in the Bible as a title of Satan “the Devil,” the great slanderer of God. This indicates the source of such defamatory accusation.
104sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Tue, Apr 15, 2014, 23:05
psssst, whats good for the goose? Is good for the gander.


Yu post rhetoric, half-truths, and libelous attacks upon others all the time B. Then you get all puffy chested high and mighty, when you get called on it. Just precisely when, and by what authority, were you named heed judge of all mankind? Strikes me, that isnt what you profess to believe, just what you do.

You want to see intolerance? Look back at your pposts over the last 1/2 dz years, and see how you have spoken of the President, Islam and any whose flavor of Christianity, doesnt agree with yurs.
105Boldwin
      ID: 83421518
      Tue, Apr 15, 2014, 23:18
The difference, Sarge, is that:

Islam claims the right to behead me if I don't convert.

You claim the right to convert me to political correctness under threat of unemployment and starvation.

I don't personally claim the right to interfere with your life whatsoever.

And somehow in your mind, I'm the intolerant one just because I believe there is one objective reality, God has revealed it and every contrary description of reality is a lie.

106sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 02:51
B? You claim, no...you DEMAND the right to interfere in others lives. You bemoan the building of a Mosque in NYC. You whine about any political action with which yuou disagree. You slander and liable those persons with whom you disagree.

The Koran FTR, dictates tolerance for those of a different theologic bent. Like the Bible, there are multiple apparent conflicts within it. It requires much care, to read and discern its intended message, not at all unlike the Bible.
107Boldwin
      ID: 9315169
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 10:23
1) I don't even vote to interfere in your life, let alone demand to interfere in your life.

2) I do point out stupidity. Deal with it if the shoe fits. You can tell whose nerve has been exposed by the truth around here. They can't even bear to hear me talk. 'Shut up', they explain.

3) You know perfectly well the terrible life of the dhimmi. Explain how that is tolerance to put someone thru that and when you get done doing that I'll point out the innumerable places where Islam isn't even affording them that 'tolerance' no matter what their book claims.
108Boldwin
      ID: 9315169
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 11:54
Jihad Watch is under continual attack of this kind, but this most recent instance was significant for its size: these friends and supporters of jihad terrorists threw immense amounts of money and resources into taking [down] Jihad Watch.

In previous attacks over the last couple of years, the cyber terrorists were satisfied with taking the site down for a brief period and claiming victory, but now the attacks have escalated. Since we have started blocking their attacks, they have increased in ferocity, bombarding Jihad Watch's server with so many requests for connections that the server goes down. At times there have been as many as 1,000,000 requests an hour!

A representative of the company that built a firewall around Jihad Watch said that this ongoing attack was one of the five most virulent cyber attacks they're currently fighting anywhere on the web.

Another seasoned cyber security expert told us that he had never seen such a virulent and persistent attack in all of years of working on protecting websites from just such attacks.
---
You see, the cyber terrorists know that Robert Spencer tells the truth and that they can't refute him on rational grounds - so they resort to the forcible suppression of free speech that is a hallmark of the increasingly authoritarian and thuggish Left.

Jihad Watch is one of the very few places online or off where you can find the whole truth about the Islamic jihad against the free world. That's why Leftist and Islamic supremacists hate Robert Spencer so much.
109sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 12:09
yeah, and then you rationalize, your attacks. *smdh* Really B, thats more like a 10 yr olds conduct, than an adults.
110Boldwin
      ID: 9315169
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 17:59
Conflating muslims beheading me, and you starving me to death...

...with me attacking the basis of your arguments...

...is the conduct of a tyrant rationalizing his inhumanity.

111Boldwin
      ID: 9315169
      Wed, Apr 16, 2014, 18:19
Just add the word muslim and see what you get...

To which I will add that western nihilism has had a similar effect on them.
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