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Subject: Political Baseball 2014
Posted by: Nerveclinic
- [52134819] Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 17:58
Trade announcement.
Nerveclinic Trades Robby Cano to Dust Storm Troopers for Joey Votto.
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| 543 | GO
ID: 344132921 Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 11:03
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No explanation on #539?
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| 544 | PV at Echo Lake
ID: 307192411 Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 11:54
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Given Daniel Murphy's production at 2b, Wong kind of slipped out of my radar
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| 545 | GO
ID: 344132921 Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 12:59
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Well thats a different story - nobody seems to know when the switch is flipped and that player is a true "free agent" so to speak. A week after 300 ABs? ok.. so if Player X has 299 AB's today and crosses this afternoon - when can he be claimed by another squad? Next Sunday morning? next Monday morning?
I was planning to pick him up the morning after 7 days. But he was picked up on the 7th day after he hit 300.
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| 546 | Tree
ID: 438482411 Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 13:09
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Wong went over the threshold on August 5th.
he was picked up on August 12th, which was the 8th day.
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| 547 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Sun, Aug 17, 2014, 14:26
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<539> Sorry have been busy lately, prepping two houses for sale.
1) Are you lodging a complaint? 2) Did you want to make a claim on Wong and that's why its a big deal?
May I remind you, THE GUY SUCKS!!!!
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| 548 | nerveclinic
ID: 8832812 Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 15:52
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GO it is in the written rules that have been posted here.
After the 300 AB the owner gets 7 full days to decide if he will add him to the team, at the end of the 7th day 12 AM EST Anyone can pick him up if he is still a FA.
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| 549 | GO
ID: 20515299 Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 20:02
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The way that rule is written I would contend that he was picked up a day early with that time line.
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| 550 | GO
ID: 20515299 Tue, Aug 19, 2014, 20:13
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With the 1st "full" day not being till August 6th and the 7th being the end of the 12th and first eligible for pickup at 12:01 on 8/13.
It doesn't really matter to me in the grand scheme of things but I think we need to clarify it a bit.
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| 551 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Thu, Aug 21, 2014, 18:03
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Here is what the Constitution currently says:
Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until they meet the prospect thresholds. Prospects may be called up or sent down anytime in-season or off-season prior to keeper declaration. If called up and made an MLB keeper, prospects will lose their prospect status. If you drop them after they meet the threshold, any team is eligible to add them. If they reach the threshold while not on the active roster you must call them up within 7 days or lose their rights
We can close the case on this issue by adding this sentence:
So, for example, if an unrostered player exceeds the threshold on a game that started on a Monday, and the current owner fails to promote him, he would become a Free Agent at 12:00:01 AM US Pacific Daylight Savings Time on the following Monday.
I'll add this to the Constitution and post it to the Yahoo Group if I dont get any objections in the next few days.
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| 552 | GO
ID: 065299 Tue, Aug 26, 2014, 12:15
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This is fine with me, thanks for the update Bean - think we just came across some vague language worth addressing.
So Player X goes over limit on Monday at 7 PM game. His owner has until Sunday night at 11:59 PM to add him or the start of the following Monday he's free game.
Its really only 6 "full days" (plus the one where he went over) which is fine with me... it was that one spot where someone wrote 7 "full days" which is what didn't make sense to me on the timeline.
I like the way you have it cause it makes it really simple to remember... if your guy goes over on a Thursday -- you better add him before the next Thursday happens.
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| 553 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Tue, Aug 26, 2014, 13:24
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I posted the updated file to the Yahoo Group. It's there for your reference now.
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| 554 | WG
ID: 59552022 Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 01:41
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Trade deadline today... still looking for some pop and average. Let me know if interested in discussing a potential deal, thanks.
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| 555 | biliruben
ID: 28420307 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 10:18
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I'm so desperate for Ws, I'm letting degenerate gamblers set my lineup.
Gausman is only starting on 11% of teams, but Vegas says they are favored against the hard hitting twinkies.
Wheeler, on the other hand, is starting on most teams, but I'm benching him. That's right. Because the degenerates say they are dogs.
Lets see how that works out.
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| 556 | biliruben
ID: 229341622 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 17:31
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No matter how you sliced it, no Ws. ;(
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| 557 | C1-NRB
ID: 56837116 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 17:38
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And for what it's worth...Gausman is still my prospect for another 7 days. He only had 122 career IP going into his start today.
Feel free to punish yourself as you see fit for the 7 K and 0.95 WHIP he got you today.
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| 558 | biliruben
ID: 229341622 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 20:07
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Huh. The Yahoo page said he went up to 125.2 on August 22nd, 8 days before I picked him up. At least it did. I spent the time to do the math, but now it looks like the source has changed.
I'm thoroughly baffled. I really did check and double check to make sure it was a clean steal.
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| 559 | biliruben
ID: 229341622 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 20:10
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No, it still does.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9334/
129.2 after his last 4 inning outing on the 27th.
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| 560 | C1-NRB
ID: 29840120 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 21:40
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My bad. I didn't run the numbers, so I thought his 7.1 innings today were included in his 89 IP this season since they appeared on his totals page already.
Nevermind.
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| 561 | biliruben
ID: 105572020 Mon, Sep 01, 2014, 22:52
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No worries. He is barely worth it, given his current so so performance.
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| 562 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Fri, Sep 05, 2014, 12:08
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Tree
I'll incorporate the data you collect in your new thread into a roster file that I'll post to the Yahoo group at season's end.
We may want select a commissioner for next year, before we all move on from this season. Any volunteers?
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| 563 | biliruben
ID: 28420307 Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 07:20
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Well, I've hunted you down, GO. Now the much more difficult part - get ahead and stay there.
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| 564 | GO
ID: 065299 Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 09:54
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Oh, I don't think its gonna be that difficult, I'm pretty much out of bullets. Can't believe I made it this far.
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| 565 | biliruben
ID: 81382416 Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 10:17
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Heh. I am far more over-extended than you. When you are forced to rotate through marginal pitchers because you've lost your best ones, it's like russian roulette. They are bound to explode.
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| 566 | GO
ID: 065299 Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 10:57
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Well who is in third? cause we are both hanging off the cliff at this point.. :o
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| 567 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Fri, Sep 12, 2014, 11:56
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Today, it's me, but that wont last, running out of innings.
MLB commish made my decision to drop Chris Davis so much easier today. He's all yours guys.
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| 568 | biliruben
ID: 28420307 Sat, Sep 20, 2014, 04:07
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Jesus. Nice day.
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| 569 | GO
ID: 344132921 Sat, Sep 20, 2014, 08:57
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Yeah, just great I left Ortiz on the bench last night. At least everyone else played well.
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| 570 | biliruben
ID: 81382416 Sat, Sep 20, 2014, 11:33
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Weird. I could swear the bottom tally showed Ortiz's numbers included - something like 15 5 16 2 - at 1 am last night.
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| 571 | nerveclinic
ID: 8832812 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 04:05
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We seem to have a two man horse race
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| 572 | biliruben
ID: 41431323 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 06:52
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Yeah, though I don't like my chances. I'm nearly out of starts at all my positions except catcher, and GO's bats have gotten hot. I've been benching players against tough match-ups the last few days, I'll be dead in the water offensively in a couple days. I'll have to get crazy lucky with my WW arms.
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| 573 | biliruben
ID: 41431323 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 07:13
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At some point during the season I had 4 pretty dominant top-tier arms in Yu, Cliff, Josh and Zach.
Now I'm down one starter - Greinke - who may start the final day of the season, but I can't take the chance and I gotta skip.
Just in case you are curious how I could manage to rack up 134 moves!
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| 574 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:27
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good luck down the stretch GO and bili
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| 575 | biliruben
ID: 561162511 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:49
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Thanks, Bean. Tho as I said, I need crazy luck, not just luck!
I need everything to go right for me, and for GO to make some stupid mistakes (which he appears unable to do, for whatever reason).
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| 576 | GO
ID: 065299 Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 15:48
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well i missed a guy in the lineup today, got de Aza locked in and not playing... would have been Pollack who stole a bag. boo!
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| 577 | biliruben
ID: 41431323 Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 00:04
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Jesus. 30Ks.
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| 578 | biliruben
ID: 41431323 Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 00:06
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Strike that (ahem). 36.
And counting.
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| 579 | biliruben
ID: 81382416 Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 13:00
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Looking through, I'm now really not sure what will happen.
GO - I'm sure you know this given I'm assuming you have played yahoo about as long as I have, but I'm sending a whole armada of pitchers through tomorrow, which will put me significantly over the 1250 limit in one day. Since it's all in the one day I will go over the limit, Yahoo allows this.
I lost this way about a decade a go on the last day of the season (Curse you, RFS, where ever you are), when I wasn't aware of it, so I thought I'd give you a heads-up, just in case.
It looks like all the ratio cats are in play, mostly head-to-head, as well as head to head with HRs and SB. My main hope is that my fleet and free-agent rag-arms collect enough Ws and Ks to make a dent in your lead. A dubious prospect, but you never know.
Great season, either way!
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| 580 | GO
ID: 065299 Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 13:11
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I generally have no idea whats going on, so who knows! I am just hanging on for dear life and I'd be surprised if I have enough.
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| 581 | nerveclinic
ID: 8832812 Mon, Sep 29, 2014, 03:05
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Wow tight finish.
Congrats to Ryan and Bili.
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| 582 | biliruben
ID: 41431323 Mon, Sep 29, 2014, 04:20
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Congrats, GO!
Didn't quite have a decent enough pitching day yesterday to make it.
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| 583 | GO
ID: 065299 Mon, Sep 29, 2014, 08:49
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Well I did screw up Saturday with my pitching limits and threw away a K point. I became very sick this weekend and forgot all about everything. Fortunately got some SB's yesterday to seal it.
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| 584 | Bean
ID: 5292191 Mon, Sep 29, 2014, 10:12
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grats GO
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| 585 | C1-NRB
ID: 428592910 Mon, Sep 29, 2014, 11:59
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Congratulations, GO. Sometimes the deal that doesn't get done is the one that works out.
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| 586 | Tree
ID: 55815821 Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 08:35
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congrats!
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| 587 | GO
ID: 065299 Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 11:46
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Thanks all. A few weeks into the season I put that smack talk of "Dead Last" which I just noticed... a long ride since then. It was a fairly smooth ride up to the top with Tulo, Kinsler and Edwin carrying things early and a relatively smooth and healthy ride til like mid-August. I feel like the Oakland A's. I am surprised I hung on. 1 more day and bili would have been the Royals knocking me out of it.
I traded the volatile Verlander for some more steady SP in Ryu and a top closer which I think was a game changer. Tough to give up on a top keeper, but filled some holes going for it.
Tulo goes down at the 90 game mark... and here we go - a power disappearing act. Kinsler stalls... Wright, Gattis and Mauer fall off a cliff. Edwin to the DL. Cuddyer down again and again... Melky and Ortiz the last month. SP? Cain out for the year (a godsend), Ryu and Ross go down when I need them most. It was a mess of free agent pickups like Kuechel, Kennedy etc.
Who were the band aids? The late round trade swap for Danny Santana solidified SS, as did Mookie's getting a regular job. Leonys Martin was solid late aiding in the SB fix. I was platooning all these random split guys like the A's -- Stubbs vs. LHP only at home, Blackmon at home, Leonys vs. RHP etc.
And the strength of my team came from a place I NEVER invest anything... relief pitchers. Not just K-Rod/Holland you would expect... but Wade Davis, Giles and Betances specifically gave me a combined states that Kershaw would be jealous of. Of course to use those roster slots I lost a lot of hitting games and that almost burned me. But it was enough so I guess those guys get the MVP.
Came a long way from the damn messy Australia series... hopefully nothing that early again. Although the Van Slyke HR I drafted after the fact almost became a league winning HR. I still don't get why people were good with drafting players after knowing the results and others didn't pounce on that more.
Draft MVPs? Last four rounds of the draft couldn't have gone any better. KRod Kazmir Melky Tyson Ross
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| 588 | biliruben
ID: 561162511 Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 12:32
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My story is I traded Prince, and my youth - Polanco and Xander, for what seemed at the time to be a pretty outside shot at the gold.
Didn't work out, but got close enough not to regret it too much. I may regret it down the road, depending on how they youngsters develop.
My bats largely stayed healthy and productive, so much so that I was close to 14s across board, but was in danger of running completely out of position starts with 4 or 5 days left in the season.
My starting arms, on the other hand, did not stay healthy at all, and that ended up costing me. Yu, Cliff and Beckett would have sealed up a few more points in Ks and Ws, and I could have likely caught GO in ERA. Such is the season.
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| 589 | GO
ID: 065299 Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 14:31
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It became of battle of crappy SP waiver wire luck! but we both had good enough starts to lead us there.
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| 590 | biliruben
ID: 561162511 Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 16:42
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Yup. Though, it being the year of the pitcher, there sure were some crappy-sweet arms out there to choose from!
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| 591 | GO
ID: 344132921 Sat, Oct 25, 2014, 22:41
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Kind of cool to watch the bullpen guys I rode all year of the Royals. Feel like I'm trying to hold off biliruben all over again. Lets go Royals!
Of course bili would never associate with SF, but hey.
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| 592 | biliruben
ID: 28420307 Sun, Oct 26, 2014, 07:50
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Yeah, I'm rooting for the Royals myself. Much to the chagrin of my SF fan in-laws.
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