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Posted by: Perm Dude
- [3210201915] Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 13:26

Thought we had a general RIP thread, to mention and discuss recently passed people of note. I guess not, so here's a new one.

George McGovern dies at 90.
1Boldwin
      ID: 579112216
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 19:16
An elegant but mistaken gentleman who by virtue of the electorate was limited to merely bankrupting a hotel instead of the entire country.

He once pointed out his own wastrel ways, how he might impulsively squander his money on a suit in a store window if it caught his eye, and if only the government would come along and prevent him, spending the money wiser than he could instead.
2Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Wed, Dec 19, 2012, 20:17
Robert Bork passes.

Love the first paragraph of the above piece:

Robert Bork, who died Wednesday, was an unrepentant reactionary who was on the wrong side of every major legal controversy of the twentieth century. The fifty-eight senators who voted against Bork for confirmation to the Supreme Court in 1987 honored themselves, and the Constitution. In the subsequent quarter-century, Bork devoted himself to proving that his critics were right about him all along.
4Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 01:03
Hadn't realized that Daniel Inouye also passed, on Monday.
5Boldwin
      ID: 5311401914
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 03:34
Libs just couldn't deal with someone on the bench who would look them in the eye and tell them in the written ruling as well, 'even tho you took an oath to uphold and be guided by the constitution, you just made that up.'
6Seattle Zen
      ID: 3310162612
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 13:36
Bork devoted himself to proving that his critics were right about him all along.


Absolutely. America didn't just dodge a bullet when Bork was denied, it avoided a much larger tragedy. Self-righteous ideologues have no place on the bench.
7sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 13:45
...conclude that poll taxes were constitutional and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was not.

From PDs link in 2 above. In the debate re Bork's jurisprudence, Boldwin...you lose HUGE, when you support people like Bork.
8Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 18:13
You don't have to work very hard to convince me you guys aren't strict constructionists. Yeah, woulda been just awful sticking to that old document.
9sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 18:16
particularly, given that T Jefferson said it needed to be redone every 17 years or less
10Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 18:52
In case you had justifiably gotten the impression only enemies of the constitution write obituaries these days...
When President Reagan nominated Bork to the Supreme Court, no one questioned his qualifications. Just five years earlier, he had been unanimously confirmed for the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, having earned an “exceptionally well qualified” label from the American Bar Association. But in the interim, the Democratic Party had taken control of the Senate. Senator Ted Kennedy orchestrated a smear campaign against Bork so breathtaking in its distortion that even the liberal Washington Post denounced it as a “lynching.”
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Even that setback ultimately served to advance Judge Bork’s constitutional agenda. It galvanized conservatives. In the four years after the confirmation battle, the leading conservative legal organization, the Federalist Society, watched its contributions soar, partly as a result of the “Bork effect.” Today, originalism has moved from the fringes to the mainstream. Many liberal legal scholars concede that judges ought to be guided by the original understanding of the Constitution.

No Supreme Court nominee today dares disavow originalism or declare his or her sympathy with a “living Constitution” philosophy. When Elena Kagan faced Senate confirmation for the Supreme Court in 2010, she went out of her way to praise originalism as an interpretive method. As the future justice explained: “Sometimes [the framers] laid down very specific rules. Sometimes they laid down broad principles. Either way, we apply what they say, what they meant to do. So in that sense, we are all originalists.”
Yes, thanks to the brilliant Judge Bork, "we are all originalists" now, even those of us who have to lie about it to get on the bench.
11sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 19:06
That has more to do with the GOP fascination with the filibuster, than with jurisprudence.
12Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 19:10
Yes, Robert Bork was borked. It was vicious. And, in the end, we got a better Justice out of it. A Justice Bork would have been horrible for this country.

The Right, meanwhile, have no leg to stand on in their complaints. While warming over decades-old hurts over Bork, they continue to justify the current vicious and no-nothing House of Representatives simply because they believe they are right.
13Seattle Zen
      ID: 3603123
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 19:26
Post 10 is so full of lies, it is just too much, even for Baldwin.

Read this review of Scalia's pathetic book by Judge Posner, and you will plainly see that only a few partisan hacks scratch their balls as they call themselves originalists.

You are so disconnected to reality, Baldwin. Most people would be embarrassed.
14Boldwin
      ID: 41148209
      Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 20:10
Yes, yes, name all the more influential legal societies.
15Boldwin
      ID: 3113225
      Sat, Dec 22, 2012, 21:25
President First Person Singular: “my” 21 times, “me” 12 times, “I” 30 times … Narcissist as eulogist
16Boldwin
      ID: 3113225
      Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 03:54
But you know the president’s self-love has gotten utterly out of hand when Obama speaks at the funeral of Senator Daniel Inouye and even the Obama-lovin’ Slate has to break out with the headline Today We Are Gathered … To Hear More About Me.

The subhead goes on further to say:

President Obama was supposed to eulogize the memory of Sen. Daniel Inouye. Instead he told us about his favorite summer vacation.
17bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 09:59
I tried the link in 16 and didn't get anything about Obama's eulogy, but did see this quote at the top:
If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
- Hermann Hesse, German Novelist and Poet (1877-1962)


Baldwin, if Hesse knows of what he speaks, there must be a lot in Obama that is actually part of yourself.
18Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Sun, Dec 23, 2012, 12:03
Transcript, for those who prefer not to get their news pre-chewed by the Right wing media machine.
19Boldwin
      ID: 311512322
      Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 01:09
bibA

Principles. I understand people with principles.

Sheep walk in the garden of their turpulence.
20Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 23:23
RIP Jack Klugman

Meaningful to me because I got to know him at the Del Mar racetrack in 1978-80 when I was a minor celebrity in North San Diego County and we both had a weakness for pony betting.

He ended up owning a horse he named Jaklin Klugman, which placed 3rd in the 1980 Kentucky Derby. Jack didn't slum it much at Del Mar after that, but he was a very accessible, fun guy, much like the Oscar Madison character he played on "The Odd Couple."
21sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 23:24
always one of my fave character actors.
23sarge33rd
      ID: 12554167
      Wed, Dec 26, 2012, 13:25
R.I.P. Charles Durning
24Boldwin
      ID: 1111212718
      Thu, Dec 27, 2012, 19:21
Norman Schwarzkopf
25Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 13:19
Stephen Colbert's moving on-air tribute to his mom.
26Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Sun, Jun 23, 2013, 22:21
Bobby "Blue" Bland
27Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 19:16
Marc Rich
28Perm Dude
      ID: 339541411
      Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 16:58
Former House Speaker Tom Foley
29sarge33rd
      ID: 3871221
      Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 16:47
Nelson Mandela, R.I.P.
30sarge33rd
      ID: 3871221
      Fri, Dec 20, 2013, 01:26
A veritable Who's Who, of lost musicians and artists in 2013
31Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sat, Jan 11, 2014, 12:59
Ariel Sharon passes. Obama's statement about the passing.
32Pancho Villa
      ID: 2131916
      Mon, Aug 11, 2014, 21:03
Robin Williams. Incredible talent. Crazy stuff going on inside that head.
33Khahan
      ID: 16341313
      Tue, Aug 12, 2014, 01:15
Can't believe Robin Williams. Childhood Icon and one of my top 5 funniest stand-up comics of all time. Only Eddie Murphy and Bill Cosby left.
34biliruben
      ID: 229341622
      Tue, Aug 12, 2014, 10:37
I'll miss him. Scanning IMDB, I think I may have seen just about every one of his movies, most more than once.
35sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Thu, Jan 01, 2015, 23:34
R.I.P. Gov Cuomo
36Seattle Zen
      ID: 1610533022
      Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 02:14
and Bill Cosby

ROTFLMAO, man, that's really funny right now.
37Tree
      ID: 161036918
      Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 08:44
Cuomo's speech at the 1984 DNC is the first political speech i remember (as opposed to the memory of a political event or individual, such as Nixon's resignation, Reagan being shot, Begin-Sadat, etc).

it paved the way for my political beliefs, and i believe, those of much of a generation.
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