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Posted by: Boldwin
- [535651] Mon, Apr 05, 2010, 13:50

Suppose they threw a Tea Party and everyone showed up?

Having access to insider Dem strategy sites I can tell you they spend a LOT of time dithering about who the tea partiers are.

It turns out a Winston Group poll and a Gallup study shows they are remarkably representative across the board of America as a whole.
Yesterday's poll conducted by the Winston Group, reported that the 43% of the people in the Tea Party movement are not Republicans and their major concern is jobs and the economy. This is a far cry from the nonsense progressives and the mainstream media (is that redundant?) are telling the U.S., that the Tea Parties are comprised of the extreme right racist wing of the Republican Party, organizing to find a way to destroy the presidency of the first African-American to hold the office.
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Gallup is reporting that more than half of Tea Party supporters are NOT Republican, but they tend to be much more conservative than the general population.

In several other respects, however -- their age, educational background, employment status, and race (yes RACE) , Tea Partiers are quite representative of the public at large.

Over the past year, Tea Party movement activists -- originally kindled by grass-roots opposition to the economic stimulus bill and taxpayer bailouts of homeowners -- came out strongly against the Democrats' national healthcare reform plans. That stance is evident in the latest USA Today/Gallup poll, in which 87% of Tea Party supporters -- versus 50% of all Americans -- say they consider passage of healthcare reform a bad thing.

While opposition to the healthcare bill is perhaps the most distinctive characteristic of Tea Party supporters in the new poll, their views on abortion are also notable. Nearly two-thirds consider themselves "pro-life" on the abortion issue, compared with 46% of all national adults.
That pro-life number makes the claim that movement is a purely economic and not a culturally conservative movement seem less than reliable.
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700Mith
      ID: 4310402110
      Mon, Jan 28, 2013, 12:33
Dem groups to fund Tea Party challenger to Mitch McConnell in 2014
701Tree
      ID: 56456615
      Mon, May 06, 2013, 19:27
as the Tea Party continues to slide to irrelevancy.

Tom Zawistowski, executive director of the Portage County Tea Party who lost his bid for the Ohio GOP chairmanship by a 48-7 vote of the party’s state central committee, met on Saturday with Don Shrader, chairman of the Constitution Party of Ohio, to explore uniting in a party committed more to principles than winning elections.

Ohio is not Kentucky. Rob Portman won't win elections by being a Rand Paul, or Ted Cruz, or Mike Lee, and John Kasich certainly won't be reelected by imitating Rick Scott.

If the Tea Partiers of Ohio really want to make Ohio a more conservative place, they should remember those realities. But, if as I suspect, they're more interested in self-aggrandizing and feel-goodery, by all means, I hope they form their own party.
702Boldwin
      ID: 1849259
      Sat, May 25, 2013, 11:02
The health of the Tea Party can be measured by the strength of the Republican Study Committee.

Alt title: 'Libs, know your enemy'.
Ed Feulner was a congressional aide to Republican Rep. Phil Crane of Illinois. One day in 1972, Feulner says, his boss was meeting with several fellow House conservatives, including Ed Derwinski of Illinois, John Rousselot of California, and Ben Blackburn of Georgia. The discussion turned to a club of liberal House members who convened weekly and called themselves the Democratic Study Group. “Look at what they’ve done in terms of making sure the Democrats in control of the House are always under pressure from the left,” one member said. “Why can’t we do this on the right?”
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He knew Republicans could not effectively battle Obama until they called an internal cease-fire. So when he met with the founders last November to ask them to nominate him for the chairmanship, Scalise posed a simple question. “As conservatives,” he asked, “how do we define victory?”

His message was straightforward: The RSC should focus less on preaching conservative values and more on passing conservative policy; it should emphasize actions over words. He ran for the chairmanship of the group against Rep. Tom Graves of Georgia (the founders’ choice) as the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, the sequester, and the continuing resolution all loomed, and he won by promising RSC members that he would work to secure a series of “victories,” giving House Republicans momentum and putting Senate Democrats and the White House on the defensive.

At the annual retreat in Williamsburg, after conservative leaders had come to terms with Boehner, Scalise lobbied skeptical RSC members to join the ideological armistice. In exchange for approving a temporary extension of the debt limit in January, Boehner’s leadership team would support a series of conservative policy solutions to the upcoming list of legislative challenges. Many RSC members doubted the durability of this agreement—since dubbed “the Williamsburg Accord”—but were persuaded to give Boehner one final chance to earn the trust of the conservative rank and file.

Four months later, both Boehner and Scalise have delivered. Consistent with the Kingsmill Resort compromise, the sequester cuts went into effect; the continuing resolution was passed with lower spending levels; and the House’s proposed budget would balance in 10 years. Meanwhile, thanks to the RSC-favored “No Budget, No Pay” provision attached to the debt-ceiling deal, Senate Democrats were forced to come up with their first budget in four years. “We’re not a think tank,” Scalise says. “We’re a group of 171 legislators who all came here to fight to pass conservative policy into law.”

The Republican Study Committee has, throughout its history, been ideologically pure yet often impotent to achieve legislative results. In the minority, it lacked power or numbers to drive the agenda; in the majority, it focused on infighting over policy. Now, for the first time in its 40-year history, the stars have aligned. Not only is the RSC still emphasizing ideology over partisanship—and passing conservative policy in the process—but it is also pulling the entire conference rightward. “We’re hitting our stride,” says Teller, who’s worked for the group since 2001.
703Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 19:45
Will the Tea Party die when Obama leaves office?

I say "no." Hatred is a habit-forming drug, and these guys are completely hooked.
704sarge33rd
      ID: 4609710
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 00:05
I can only agree PD, with both your conclusion, and reason behind it.
705Boldwin
      ID: 465452112
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 00:53
Hatred is a habit-forming drug...says the guy who can't even imagine his opponents as anything other than seething drooling subhuman monsters. No chance they think their well intentioned ideas work out best for everyone involved, and have the well thot out evidence to back it up..
706biliruben
      ID: 21841115
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 10:53
In Freudian psychology, externalization is an unconscious defense mechanism, where an individual "projects" his own internal characteristics onto the outside world, particularly onto other people.[1] For example, a patient who is overly argumentative might instead perceive others as argumentative and himself as blameless.

Like other defense mechanisms, externalization is a protection against anxiety and is, therefore, part of a normal, healthily-functioning mind. However, if taken to excess it can lead to the development of a neurosis.

externalization.
707Boldwin
      ID: 135162210
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 11:18
I know. You racists project all the time.
708Tree
      ID: 355162211
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 12:16
707 is beautiful.
709Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 12:52
Deserves a meme on FB.
710sarge33rd
      ID: 4609710
      Sat, Jun 22, 2013, 16:53
...and have the well thot out fabricated evidence to back it up..

fixed that for you, but left the spelling as it was.
711Boldwin
      ID: 195432220
      Sun, Jun 23, 2013, 00:09
Anymore of the self-awareness challenged care to take a whack before I continue?
712Perm Dude
      ID: 201027169
      Sun, Jun 23, 2013, 00:35
He's like a reverse Roomba.
713biliruben
      ID: 226202916
      Mon, Jul 29, 2013, 17:20
Ask Ayn.

A taste:

Then the inside of my head began to sound like a jet engine and so I went to the bathroom. I took maybe ten more speed pills and sat in a stall and wrote a new chapter of “Atlas Shrugged.” Perhaps twenty-five thousand words, all on toilet paper. I cannot include these words in a new edition, alas, because I did not write them so much as encode them on the toilet paper by biting it.

I giggle.
714Mith
      ID: 412561115
      Mon, Jul 29, 2013, 17:32
What are they, made of Rearden Metal?
715Seattle Zen
      ID: 3310162612
      Mon, Jul 29, 2013, 17:50
I think this very well may be another example of the New Yorker's subtle satire that is so funny that we all wish it were true.
716Perm Dude
      ID: 41661813
      Mon, Jul 29, 2013, 18:35
+1 Zen.

Hodgman as Rand
717biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 01:55
As I write this, I am drinking speed, and you cannot stop me. You cannot stop me, America, with your altruism and your Alan Alda and your Fresca cans biting at my skin. I shall speed across this country like a great high-speed train and the U.S. shall be forever changed in my wake.

Subtle, yes.
718Perm Dude
      ID: 41661813
      Tue, Jul 30, 2013, 14:27
Beck's utopia town gets a schmear of a pushback from Jon Stewart.
719biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 03:56
Dibs on the colonial across from the food Co-op.

He's lost his mind.
720sarge33rd
      ID: 3871221
      Thu, Oct 10, 2013, 10:40
Rand Paul...exposed fro what he is

With his creation of a ludicrous home-brew “certifying board,” he has shown his dedication not to a movement but to the single goal of making life a little bit more convenient for Rand Paul. And here Paul does appear to speak for his generation: He has given us the finest example yet of yuppie selfishness in senescence.
721Boldwin
      ID: 50546712
      Sat, Jun 07, 2014, 13:48
What a difference two years can make.

In two years, the Whig party which had been compromising it's anti-slavery positions away regularly to the Democrats, went from the 'other main party' to total irrelevance. Suddenly people wouldn't even admit they had ever been Whigs.

The establishment Republicans are thiiiis close to one compromise too far for their base and they can feel it, despite the regular handshakes that they have managed to defeat their own base one more election.

In related news the conservative Tories in England which have long comprised away the interests of their base, especially on the issue of rampant excessive immigration and EU big government tyranny unresponsive to the people...

...have been relegated to a third party, has been party, while their rapidly fleeing base who they have been calling racist nutters for quite a while, recently won the recent elections as the UKIP party, both British and EU.
722Boldwin
      ID: 4253916
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 20:33
Eric Cantor loses primary to Tea Party candidate!

...after touring the country with illegal immigration promoter Illinois' Guitierez.

To further illegal immigration Cantor had Guitierez protest him, hoping to buffalo his anti-illegal immigration base.

RINO's and the Chamber of Commerce now go into mourning.

723Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 21:23
I have to believe the warning message sent to other republicans will have a bigger effect than the damage a lame duck nothing-to-lose House Majority leader can pull off. Lotta corporate pressure for this tho.
724Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 21:39
That just goes to show you that a $5.44 million campaign war chest, incumbency, holding tremendous power in the House and the Chamber of Commerce in your back pocket doesn't necessarily trump $207,000 and the best interests of your base.
725Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 21:41
OMG, in a blowout!!! IN A BLOWOUT!!! Brat 55.6%, Cantor 44.4%
726biliruben
      ID: 28420307
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 23:22


The face of true American leadership.

What can we expect from the professor?
727Perm Dude
      ID: 294531914
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 23:23
Nice. As the ability of the GOP to enforce party loyalty falls away, so to goes their ability to win general elections.

If there is one thing that everyone on this board agrees upon, it is cheering on Tea Party victories in the GOP primaries.
728Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 23:24
Someone who isn't such a backstabbing sellout.
729biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 23:26
Sounds like this is a deeply Red district.

So it went from a sure seat to a probable seat. I'll take the better odds.

And the ineffectual professor tilting at windmills and not much more, if he's elected.
730Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Tue, Jun 10, 2014, 23:36
He will not only pour cold water on the 'let's sneak amnesty thru while they aren't looking' movement...he will also push hard to rein in the NSA abuses in domestic spying. An issue Cantor was terrible on.
732Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 00:34
Frankly this should be cheered by all sides. This is a victory for politicians who stick to their philosophy and a defeat to cynical weathervane fence riders tip-toing away in the night from all their supporters sooner or later.
733biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 00:55
An ineffectual potted plant (if he's like the other tea sippers) replaces an actual leader who makes a stab at actually, you know, doing the job of governing. Even if it's not the governing I'd prefer, I like that better than the party of do-nothings.

But okay.

Yay! Wahoo! Hurrah!
735Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 01:52
Tweet:
Mickey Kaus ‏@kausmickey 1h

Framing this one MT @David_Gergen: With [Eric] Cantor upset, House loses one of its best Republican thinkers & reformers. Sad loss for party
Hilarious!
736Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 01:59
Flashback:
Republican Cantor to Headline Anti-Tea Party Conference Sponsored by George Soros & Unions
737Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 02:29
Imagine how bad Cantor's drubbing would have been without the illegal immigrant vote!
738Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 04:37
The Capitol Building looks like a christmas tree tonight.
739Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 05:43
Celebrate.
740Boldwin
      ID: 445221020
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 10:27
Boner, you are so next.
741biliruben
      ID: 28420307
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 10:51
The destruction is all you apparently care about. Jacobins.
742Seattle Zen
      Leader
      ID: 055343019
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 11:10
Yes, Bili, as everyone knows, controlling the House alone accomplishes nothing. Might as well use this time to "purify" the party.
744Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 18:57
post 740 was pretty what i was thinking after the masturbatory, self-congratulatory succession of posts from 725 on...
745Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Thu, Jun 12, 2014, 08:23
and this is why the Tea Party is good for Democrats:

David Brat: Hitler Could 'Happen Again' If We Don't Embrace Christian Capitalism

they can appeal to the rabid, kooky, "base". but they can't appeal to the slightly less kooky mainstream.
746sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Thu, Jun 12, 2014, 09:54
an economics professor, who when asked about the minimum wage, responded that he had no formulated opinion on the matter.

One of THE central issue of the day, certainly an issue within the realm of his educational profession and specialty, yet he has no formulated position upon the topic.

He is either (a) a bald faced liar, (b) a gutless coward, (c) an absolute moron or (d) some combination of those first three.
747Perm Dude
      ID: 294531914
      Wed, Jun 25, 2014, 11:38
What the Tea Party, and their cheerleaders, won't be talking about today.
748Boldwin
      ID: 45539258
      Wed, Jun 25, 2014, 11:47
It's funny how the dems came out and helped take down Cantor, [as it turned out they weren't needed] and yet they helped another establishment RINO and they may very well have tipped the scales.
749Boldwin
      ID: 245102511
      Wed, Jun 25, 2014, 12:16
Was it Tip O'Neill who used to say..."All politics is local"?

One of these guys forgot all about it in his self-importance and ambition and his 'big picture' while the other one was a master at eating corn-pone with the local yokels.
750Perm Dude
      ID: 586411123
      Wed, Jul 23, 2014, 15:20
Tea Party News Site is Pretty Sure You'll be Thrown Into a FEMA Camp.
751biliruben
      ID: 561162511
      Wed, Jul 23, 2014, 15:41
Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.

Fear.

Beyond fear, the teabaggers have no lucid thoughts.
752Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Fri, Jun 19, 2015, 17:27
Rand Paul has a fake quote problem

Most conservative scholarship is less about truth than it is about feeling good about what you already believe, by shoring up those feelings with fake attributions to the Founding Fathers. And referencing other such books in the conservative media bubble.

I love how so many attributions are prefaced by "in their wisdom..." Ha!
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