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Subject: Bobby Fischer Dies at 64
Posted by: Mattinglyinthehall
- [454491514] Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 12:45
AP Bobby Fischer, the reclusive chess genius who became a Cold War hero by dethroning the Soviet world champion in 1972 and later renounced his American citizenship, has died. He was 64.
Fisher died of kidney failure Thursday in a Reykjavik hospital after a long illness, his spokesman, Gardar Sverrisson, said Friday.
Fischer vanished after the 1992 match and occasionally re-emerged to give interviews on a radio station in the Philippines. During one interview, Fischer praised the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying America should be "wiped out," and described Jews as "thieving, lying bastards."
Garry Kasparov, the former world chess champion from Russia, said Fischer's ascent in the chess world in the 1960s and his promotion of chess worldwide was "a revolutionary breakthrough" for the game.
"The tragedy is that he left this world too early, and his extravagant life and scandalous statements did not contribute to the popularity of chess," Kasparov told The Associated Press.
Fischer lost his world title in 1975 after refusing to defend it against Anatoly Karpov. He dropped out of competitive chess and largely out of view, emerging occasionally to make erratic and often anti-Semitic comments, although his mother was Jewish.
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, president of the World Chess Federation, called Fischer "a phenomenon and an epoch in chess history, and an intellectual giant I would rank next to Newton and Einstein." Ed Morrissey: Fischer demonstrated that monumental genius in one area usually gets accompanied by lunacy in others. No one knows what triggered his strange behavior in the mid-1970s that led him to essentially abandon the chess title and never attempt to reclaim it. His paranoia and anti-Semitism became more of his legacy than chess.
When he left the game, it lost most of its interest for the media, who moved on to other proxy fights in the US-Soviet standoff. The great media chess matches after that were tournaments that featured human grand masters against increasingly competent computers. Instead of celebrating the flexibility of the human mind, the media spotlight focused on the "intelligence" of the computers, making the games themselves secondary and the entire effort joyless affairs.
Fischer died a lonely, bitter, and utterly warped man. He died in the darkness of Icelandic winter as well as the darkness that enveloped his soul. He could have been so much more, and meant so much more -- and in the end, wasted it all on hatred. |
| 1 | Boldwin
ID: 120301616 Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 13:37
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He and Paul Morphy were the two giants of chess history. In his prime he almost certainly was the greatest player ever. No one can take that away from him. Not even he himself, tho how he tried.
Morphy was more ahead of his time and modern chess has never been the same since he demonstrated conclusively the fundametals like control of the center, etc. Fischer didn't change chess play in this revolutionary way but he did spread worldwide interest and standing on the shoulders of previous greats he was the strongest player ever.
His obsessive focus on chess was similar to the nature of Newton's focussed effort and we may never see a chess genius of his like again.
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| 2 | Building 7
ID: 471052128 Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 15:36
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"In his final years, Fischer railed against the chess establishment, alleging that the outcomes of many top-level chess matches were decided in advance.
Instead he championed his concept of random chess, in which pieces are shuffled at the beginning of each match in a bid to reinvigorate the game.
"I don't play the old chess," he told reporters when he arrived in Iceland in 2005. "But obviously if I did, I would be the best."
That random chess sounds interesting. Anybody know exactly how that works?
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| 3 | Boldwin
ID: 120301616 Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 22:28
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I know what it would do. There is a book on every variation of possible viable openings which means nothing creative happens for the first 20 moves and the territory doesn't even get interesting for ten more moves, at least not for a grandmaster.
For Fischer that was like being a genius stuck in boring autopilot for a third of the game.
Someone could find us something interesting if they could google up Fischer's thots on 3-d chess.
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| 4 | Boldwin
ID: 120301616 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 00:21
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shortly after reaching New Orleans Morphy issued a final challenge offering to give odds of Pawn and move to any player in the world, and receiving no response thereto, he declared his career as a chess-player finally and definitely closed, a declaration to which he held with unbroken resolution during the whole remainder of his life. A withdrawal from chess competition to compare to Fischer's. Not sure if Fischer was that far above his competition.
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| 5 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 37838313 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 11:08
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I don't think he was.
re "Random chess", I agree with B's assessment for players at the GM level but IMO it would serve little purpose for players who aren't near the level of master (1800 or 2000 rating?). In my opinion the point of the game is mastering it's concepts. Randomize openings and you're starting off with a middle game sans freedom of movement necessary to structure an attack. The liklihood of mistakes vastly increases (which I think anyone who plays will agree is a detriment) and concepts go out the window until pieces start coming off the board, which could take any number of moves, depending on how the pieces are arranged for that particular game.
Who here has played competetively? I did some as a teenager, with something like a 1000 rating iirc, though I fell just short of the 20 tournament matches required by US Chess to make my rating official, though.
I've rarely played since high school and my game has receded considerably.
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| 6 | DWetzel
ID: 45301312 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 13:25
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ONce upon a while (as in, as a teenager and in college) I played around. Got up around 1600 or so. Haven't played hardly at all in recent years--taken up bridge instead. Much more social.
Fischer was, to make it short, a nutcase with an incredible gift for chess.
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| 7 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 13:32
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I played extensively in GS, JHS and then less so in HS. In 6th grade, I won the city championship. (Sioux City, IA with a pop of approx 90k at the time.) Found myself "on the ouotside looking in" and considered something of a freak by my peers. Like many at that age, popularity meant too much to me and I started a slow drift away from the game.
Best game I ever played, was with a fella soldier during a stay at an artillery gunnery range. Both of us were playing well over our heads and we were some 25-30 moves into the game and no piece had yet been taken. Each of us had set in place, our best defensive postures ever, and the first one to attack, was going to lose that game. It was clear to us both and we were the center of much amazement by those few others in the area who knew how to play the game with any skill at all. We finally called it a draw around move 45, with no pieces exchanged.
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| 8 | The Beezer Dude
ID: 191202817 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:04
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I go through stints where I spend several hours a day playing online, and the site I play on has Fischerandom chess, which I LOVE playing. The basic idea is that the position of the pieces on the back rank is random, with the following restrictions:
- one rook must be on each side of the king (castling is always possible but has a lot of rules I won't go into) - bishops must be on opposite squares - the White and Black positions must match
I personally think it makes the game more interesting. That may have something to do with my annoyance at having to learn a lot of opening theory. :)
I was quite sad to hear about Bobby's death, as he really was the key figure in 20th century American chess. It's particularly disturbing that both he and Morphy ended up basically leaving the game too early due to their own personal demons.
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| 9 | Boldwin
ID: 1055190 Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 23:35
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If you reach the point that no one in the world can touch you, I am not sure how you would maintain the obssession.
I was the best player in my high school. I beat the president of the Illinois Intitute of Technology chess club in my first tournament there. When I moved back home from college the nearest chess club was 20 miles away and I was just married, and there just wasn't room for my former hobby in my life. I was @ 1800 ranking but there were a few guys I'd meet in the strangest ways who studied all their lives who could tear me to pieces in short order. One guy saw me studying chess at a Chicago laundromat and played me a few quick games. Very humbling experience, that.
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