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Subject: Public Apology As Promised
Posted by: azdbacker
- [13945242] Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 05:31
I was wrong. I was horrendously, inexecusably wrong. If you've seen my football picks this year, this should be no great surprise to you - I seem to have lost my predictive ability. Sorry for wasting everyone'e time with my posts the last few months.
I'm pretty sure I respect everyone here. This is an educated, reasonable crowd, which is why I came back here after a couple years off. I don't have the time to get here as much as I would like, but I enjoy the interaction when I do. I hope I never made anyone think otherwise and I hope you think the same of me, even if we've had our differences.
It's 3:25 and after 22 beers in my 120 pound frame, I'm pretty trashed. Should I wake up sometime tomorrow, I might expand on this post.
Either way:
Congratulations to you Obama supporters on your hard-earned victory. I know what it is like to be right, vaguely, somewhere deep in my memory. And I know what it's like to think things are going to get better.
I also very sincerely hope that I am wrong on what Obama's administration will bring. |
| 1 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 08:36
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Your a stand-up guy, AZD, even if you are listing to starboard right now!
Hey, at least over-the-top predictions got your site some hits!
Good luck with it in the future, and keep that open mind. I'm sure there will be lots to criticize over the next four years, but try to keep it constructive.
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| 2 | DWetzel
ID: 33337117
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 09:04
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You type really good for a drunk guy. ;)
Other than that, what bili said.
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| 3 | Tree
ID: 121035316
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 09:05
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AZD - thank you for this post. to me, it's one of the best from "the other side" on this forum in quite some time.
it is nice to see a post that actually reads as sincere, and is also congratulatory.
good luck with your blog, and i do hope you're wrong about Obama as well. i also hope he follows his word, and will lead the way in all of us working together. if that comes to be, i hope you'll be there, helping us all make this country a better place.
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| 4 | sarge33rd
ID: 76442923
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 09:28
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AZD....as has been said dude, you're standup. By definition, that means your posts are not a waste of time. (Sometimes comical yes, waste of time...no)
As for predictive abilities, if any of us actually had that? We'd buy 1 lotto ticket and retire.
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| 5 | walk
ID: 181472714
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 09:50
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Nice one Azd. Respec. 22 beers and you type so eloquently...you are more like Obama than you think? ;-) You were bold in your predictions, cocky, too, but in equal magnitude, you are noble in your public overtures of inaccuracy. Kudos.
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| 6 | Baldwin
ID: 201045320
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:08
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I'd like to add some excuses for Scott. Scott was misled by the PUMA sites he was visiting and the tone of the chatter there, is too young to have fully understood the importance of charisma that we elders learned in the Kenedy/Nixon race, and being human was not immune to wishful thinking.
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| 7 | Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 030792616
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:13
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Don't make excuses for him. Not only didn't he ask for them, but they are unneeded.
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| 8 | Tree
ID: 121035316
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:18
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Baldwin - he doesn't need excuses, because unlike other people here, he was adult enough to accept he was wrong, and step up and admit he was wrong.
he also doesn't need to be insulted by you, because that post you just made was insulting as anything.
within just a few posts, it's quite obviously he clearly understands more than you EVER will.
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| 9 | Razor
ID: 141049220
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:30
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The apology is nice, but without the necessary introspection that goes with it, it's just some words on a message board. The GOP needs to find its voice again. And it needs to be something other than Democrats are socialist idiot terrorist-loving cowards. Some on the Right will continue to be bitter for years to come, but I hope you choose a different path.
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| 10 | Baldwin
ID: 201045320
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:30
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I was only offering an excuse for his mistaken prediction.
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| 11 | Baldwin
ID: 201045320
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:38
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A FOS [friend of Scott] points out that America already survived a president who loathed the military.
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| 12 | Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 030792616
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 10:47
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If we ever get that person again as POTUS then the FOS will be ready.
Do you think Colin Powell loathes the military?
What, exactly, makes Obama subject to the term "loathe?"
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| 13 | Baldwin
ID: 201045320
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 11:20
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I must translate for PD.
"If we could survive Clinton we can survive anything."
To put in perspective, Hillary herself was a disciple of Saul Alinsky in college.
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| 14 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 11:24
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Why does the right, INSIST on claiming Pres Clinton dismantled the military? The drawdown in military personnel/equipment was initiated under Bush I/Cheney following the collapse of the Warsaw Pact. It was popularly termed "The Peace Dividend" at the time.
Or is that you Baldwin, just cannot help but blame your every perceived 'wrong', on someone with Clinton, somewhere in their name?
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| 16 | Tree
ID: 121035316
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 11:46
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What, exactly, makes Obama subject to the term "loathe?"
for Baldwin, it's because Obama is black, a democrat, and in Baldwin's sick head, a non-American and a Muslim.
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| 17 | Perm Dude
ID: 59101510
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 11:59
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I must translate for PD.
I'm afraid you aren't translating, or being clear. What makes you believe Obama "loathes" the military. Don't talk about Clinton, Ayers, Alinsky, or anyone. No one really cares about what they are thinking--the electorate clearly rejected the "guilt by association" constructs which has taken up so much of your time the last few months. It is time to stop letting other people's beliefs substitute for Obama's.
What has Obama said, written, or legislated which makes you believe he loathes the military?
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| 18 | Baldwin
ID: 201045320
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 15:17
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Neither I nor the writer I linked to did say that, PD.
In fact until this hour I didn't even seriously ask myself if that might be true. I guess being good friends with an unrepentent bomber of the pentagon might be considered evidence in some quarters...the logical ones. I know other disciples of Saul Alinsky who hate the military. But I never actually made the connection you are suggesting I did, until you reiterated the charge three times.
I'll call it a reasonable inference since you insist on bringing up the subject.
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| 19 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 15:28
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A FOS [friend of Scott] points out that America already survived a president who loathed the military.
yes you did
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| 20 | azdbacker
ID: 13945242
Thu, Nov 06, 2008, 00:52
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He was talking about Clinton.
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