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0 Subject: Political Gurupie 2010 Baseball Season Discussion

Posted by: nerveclinic
- Leader [05047110] Tue, Apr 06, 2010, 04:07


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324nerveclinic
      ID: 390561510
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 11:14
Ca someone please start a thread to vote on this and explain exactly what the rules change is?

You can call up a prospect and use him, and as long as he doesn't go over 300 by season end he is not one of your keepers?

Are you saying you can call him up for a few weeks, and then drop him in the free agent pool but no one can take him?

I read a lot of what's been said and it's a bit muddled. Don't we usually have a separate rules change thread?

I would vote yes for kafinated with a liberal time period.



325biliruben
      ID: 16105237
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 11:31
If he does not go over prospect limits, he can be retained as a prospect, if you so desire.

Yes, he can be sent down, and remain a protected prospect (by necessity sitting in the Yahoo FA pool, as he does now).
326Boldwin
      ID: 77502818
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 11:40
when i get an email - at any of my accounts - my phone lets me know.

Which does not make it superior to calling you on that same phone.
327Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 11:43
There's no reason to assume going to Kafe completely will remove the need for prodding phone calls. Certainly this isn't an either/or.

Are you saying you can call him up for a few weeks, and then drop him in the free agent pool but no one can take him?

Exactly. So long as the prospect remains under their threshold limits.
328Boldwin
      ID: 77502818
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 12:25
I am [no surprise] in favor of protecting our farm players till they reach their limits. As long as Strassberg doesn't get grandfathered out of that arrangement.
329Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 13:04
Which does not make it superior to calling you on that same phone.

actually it does.

let's say i pick 8th. as soon as the 7th person picks, i am notified, almost instantaneously.

a phone call requires another person to pick up the phone, and call me. it's not instant, and the person designated to call me may not be immediately available to make the phone call.

There's no reason to assume going to Kafe completely will remove the need for prodding phone calls. Certainly this isn't an either/or.


exactly.

I am [no surprise] in favor of protecting our farm players till they reach their limits. As long as Strassberg doesn't get grandfathered out of that arrangement.

unfortunately, any rule change is not going to apply to Strasburg. i don't believe our rules have ever been retroactive.

you called him up to your roster, and now it's your choice as to whether he's a regular keeper, or someone you're gonna throw back in the pool.
330Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 14:12
As tree says, prospect rule changes do not apply to players currently on prospect rosters, or called up prospect-eligible players.
331Boldwin
      ID: 87252916
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 17:25
Yeah, I recalled a nightmare where everyone's problem but mine got fixed. Just checking to see if the horror was real or imaginary.
332Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 17:26
Unlike your Obama nightmares, this one is real.
333Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 17:35
that got a fantastic legit LOL out of me.
334Great One
      ID: 15751159
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 19:58
yes, kafenatid eliminates the need for the middle man to help notify. takes that out of equation.
335Great One
      ID: 15751159
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 20:01
i sometimes go a week without looking at my cell phone... but i check a computer, whether at work or at home various times throughout the day. most people get emails on their phones AND computers... that makes it double the likelihood of a successful email notice vs. phone call notification. you need to have someone around to make the call, then you need to hope that person answers on the other end or is available. or checks their phone for a voice mail when you happen to call.
336Boldwin
      ID: 87252916
      Sun, Aug 29, 2010, 20:11
Well I have notified people with both and on average cell calls work best. Some people are unusually glued to their computers and it may work for them.

Kafenatid's real benefit is the ease of leaving queues, and I have been voting for using it for several years now, but ...

337Great One
      ID: 2751238
      Mon, Aug 30, 2010, 10:26
Thats because many people have jobs where they sit at a computer for several hours a day. And many aren't supposed to be answering their cell phones for personal calls. So do you want my work number to call that between 9-5 EST, but know to call my cell during the other hours? and now I am getting calls at work for a fantasy draft? how about just an email that pops up and i can indiscreetly check wherever I am.
338Boldwin
      ID: 117422921
      Mon, Aug 30, 2010, 10:35
As I've sad, I've done it both ways and according to the wishes of the manager. Some never gave me a cell# but were responsive to email. Many have special procedures, voice mail, messages to be left with secretaries, etc. during work hours.

I can still assure you that when I left an email message I went and took a nap. When I made voice contact and told the forum so, we all stayed glued to the computer screen in anticipation.
339nerveclinic
      ID: 390561510
      Tue, Aug 31, 2010, 12:57


As long as people keep up a que on kafe there's almost no need for phone calls or email. Stay on top of que and leave it on.
340C1-NRB
      ID: 401412422
      Sat, Sep 11, 2010, 23:36
Called up Jhoulys Chacin tonight.

He's at 124.1 IP going into tomorrow's start. I might as well get some use out of him this season.
341Great One
      ID: 548251511
      Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 11:44
PD - 188:Given the way Zen left, Im afraid youll have a big battle on your hands to finish above me with that team, GO.
Next year--maybe. This year, no freaking way.

:)
342biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 12:12
Cc's got my spidey sense tingling. One speedster away...
343Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 12:53
My hitters lately have been sitting on the sideline. But I'm not quite done yet, GO!
344Great One
      ID: 548251511
      Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 16:09
Oh you are done PD - I'm gonna keep you double digits behind me! :) Its the battle of who can finish higher in the middle. Dramatic. I'm still hoping to score a top 5 and think I can despite my pitching woes.
345Building 7
      Leader
      ID: 171572711
      Wed, Sep 22, 2010, 21:07
CC: I wouldn't play Logan Morrison if I were you. He's Pancho's prospect.
346Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 08:52
Yeah, Morrison has about 50 more ABs before he reaches the 250 threshold, and I'm hoping he doesn't reach it before the end of the year.

Given my issues at 1B(Morneau/Cantu, I considered calling him up, but already burned a prospect with Drew Storen.
347Building 7
      Leader
      ID: 171572711
      Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 18:52
Maybe the Commissioner can do something about Morrison.
348Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 19:38
I can't make any roster changes for today (dropping or putting him on the bench, so I emailed CC.
349Great One
      ID: 367493122
      Sat, Sep 25, 2010, 11:01
FIVE wins yesterday. Thats gotta be a record.
350C1-NRB
      ID: 401412422
      Sat, Sep 25, 2010, 15:28
I saw that. Impressive.
351biliruben
      ID: 34435239
      Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 10:50
Nice!
352Great One
      ID: 367493122
      Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 11:42
Didn't really help, already good in that category. Ya know, if I didn't trade away all my saves cause my season was over a few months ago, I would have finished a few spots higher. I guess I did the right thing though, cause who cares if you are 3rd or 5th or whatever.
353Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 13:49
I wish I hadn't (as usual) blown throw all my IP so early. It's fine as it were (I should finish 1st or second in W's, and pretty much were I am in the other pitching categories). But a little better managing the last month should have been enough to squeeze our at least 2-3 more points out of my guys.
354 GO on G1
      ID: 4867520
      Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 14:34
Its like the reverse of my RIBC Southern where I was 40 points out of first about 6 weeks ago and am now 1 point from 1st place. I was also about 150 IP behind everybody so nobody really noticed I had all these easy points I front of me.

I gotta think it could be one of the biggest comebacks ever.
355biliruben
      ID: 34820210
      Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 10:12
I wish CC checked in here so I could tell him to back off.

He is making the season far too interesting for my taste at this late date.
356C1-NRB
      ID: 401412422
      Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 22:03
Congratulations, biliruben. Nice run at the end, coldwater coyotes. Good season, everyone.

Is it too early to fire up the Hot Stove League? I have three third basemen that are young, well two that are young, one named Young. I'd like to move one of the three for a draft pick.

This may backfire, but keep an eye on the two that are in the playoffs if you're in the market for someone keeper-quality at the hot corner.
357biliruben
      ID: 34820210
      Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 23:07
Thanks, C1. Hoped to win by 20, but now feel happy to win by 2. Nice run CC, where ever you are. I was legitimately nervous.
358nerveclinic
      ID: 390561510
      Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 23:34

Congratulations Bili.

The difference between your finish ad CC's may be as simple as you using every slot up except catcher.

I find that close to impossible even though I check in every day and it seems to come from my fear of dropping players for someone on free agent list who I think is inferior.

Obviously this fear needs to be overcome.

359Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 23:48
Same for me, nerve. I'm way behind in positional GP. Even checking in most days I'm not filling those spots.

Congrats, bili. You took over first fairly early and just kept up the heat. Good job.
360Great One
      ID: 198353014
      Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 09:10
Congrats to bili and CC for making it interesting.

Not a good year for me in baseball, all 2nds and 3rd places - plus this league. This would have probably been another a few spots higher too if i didn't trade for the future and give away saves and depth etc. Still almost made the top 5 after I started to figure out some strategy stuff that would work in this league.

I said I would revamp my entire team that i inherited. I almost did. Only Howard and Hanley remain.
361biliruben
      ID: 34820210
      Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 09:38
Great season, all. I got lucky with health and depth, which makes it easy to run through those games pretty easily. Coasted a bit on hot-swapping pitchers for a busy month, when I got up by 20, and that almost cost me.

CC has a fantastic team and he played it really smart - other than trying to do it without trading, - and more importantly smack talk around these parts. ;)
362C1-NRB
      ID: 401412422
      Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 13:20
I, too, suffer from the inability to pull the trigger on the waiver wire.

But at the same time, even though I made the second fewest player moves of anyone I finished ahead of the guy the made the second most moves.
363Tree, not at home
      ID: 18342816
      Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 13:45
great season Bili, and well deserved. i struggle with what *I* did wrong this season, but i guess ultimately the depth i had last season played a huge role in me winning.

i've got great keepers. but i had injuries, and i just don't think i drafted well this season.

you played a GREAT season. congrats again.
364Great One
      ID: 198353014
      Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 12:33
C1 - thats tricky to judge and can be misleading though cause my squad also traded away some major depth to plan for the future. So had I "stayed the course" as one of our greatest :) leaders once said... i would have scored a few spots higher.

Likely the 4 biggest waiver wire moves would have been 1-4.
365Building 7
      Leader
      ID: 171572711
      Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 23:21
Congrats to coach biliruben. The top 3 from last year finished 6,7,8. I never would have predicted that. And they were way ahead of the pack last year.

I need a pitching coach for next season. I had too many spectacularly bad pitching performances to make a run. 3 inning, 8 ER. Kind of like my last season in TSN. Thanks to all who offered trades, and actually made trades.
366biliruben
      ID: 34820210
      Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 23:42
Thanks guys.

Having the spare bats to trade for Oswalt, Verlander/Scherzer actually allowed me to do the impossible - cure my pitching ratios. Something that I'd never been able to do before.
367C1-NRB
      ID: 2672611
      Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 11:04
For the second year in a row I had an MVP on my team. Last year I traded Mauer mid-season but this year, depsite a variety of offers, I held on to Votto.

And I'm still keeping him, so don't ask. : )

Only 82 days until pitchers and catchers report.
368biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 14:57
Having spent the morning sledding down the hill on my street, I'm struggling to get into the baseball mood!
369Tree, not at home
      ID: 3910441615
      Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 11:22
well, might as well get into the swing of our Hot Stove League..

Joe Mauer is on the block. i'd be willing to put other keeper-level players in a deal as well, whether as part of a Mauer deal, or seperately.

but i'm definitely looking to move Mauer.
370Building 7
      Leader
      ID: 171572711
      Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 13:38
I miss sledding. One of the good things about winter. No matter where you go sledding, one of the hills is called suicide hill. Usually the most dangerous one.
371Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 20:50
bili-- were you one of these guys?
372biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Thu, Nov 25, 2010, 01:41
Naw man. I didnt want any of that shit.

Rode my bike 21 miles through the snow Monday.
373nerveclinic
      ID: 01154411
      Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 12:55

I think Adrian Gonzalez's value just shot up!
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