Posted by: Perm Dude
- [5510572522] Tue, Nov 02, 2010, 19:57
Some early calls: Rand Paul for US Senate in KY. Not much of a surprise there.
Besides some local races, I'll be interested in the two three-way races: US Senate races in AK and FL.
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Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916 Wed, Nov 03, 2010, 22:58
Ann Coulter can afford the most platinum health care policy on the market. For a millionaire elitist to comment on the subject begs comparison to Marie Antoinette.
Do you decide to set aside your Christianity when you post such vileness, or does it happen automatically when you boot up the computer?
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Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 00:37
Ultimately, we'll look back on this day realize the difficult decisions Dems made these past two years. Basically, they did the right things in passing health care, financial reform, stimulus funding, and so on and paid for it with their jobs.
They could easily have not done so and saved their jobs. But they put policy above politics.
Republicans, on the other hand, did the opposite. They have no policy plans (reversing all the Dems' work isn't a policy idea and so doesn't count). So for two years they made hay on opposing Obama.
As Jonathan Chait pointed out, health care reform is going to be around a long time. The GOP short-term surge will not.
Bob 'who are you' Etheridge defeated by Tea Partier
Assaulting the electorate is contraindicated.
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 06:43
PD
We are well into the age when Orwell foresaw words losing meaning. You can find a liberal site the rationalizes, minimizes and calls the moon the sun over every scandal and issue your side is vulnerable on.
Nevertheless objective reality and common sense remain for those who have not decided to reject them for the comforts of groupthink/goodthink.
The common sense and sensibility of a military pilot getting jerked around by Pelosi trumps your liberal funded sites deconstructing the truth.
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 07:42
As Jonathan Chait pointed out, health care reform is going to be around a long time. The GOP short-term surge will not.
On this we agree. Unfortunately Obamacare seals America's fate having fully travelled 'The Road to Serfdom'.
Unless the new Tea Partiers can neuter this abomination before the majority of Americans feel psychologically dependent on government, America's demise is sealed. Government will no longer be the servant of the people and the American experiment will be over.
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walk
ID: 348442710 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 10:08
As opposed to physically dependent on using emergency rooms....or (their children) dying because they are denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions.
#119, good one, PD, as usual.
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 10:45
One potential dark lining I was worried about was that Soros might have shifted all his money to getting Stalin's vote counters to screw up the next election after conceding this one.
I genuinely have no idea what #129 is talking about. Perhaps Baldwin misses the point of #119, in which the longer view is that the Dems will be proven right?
#130 completely misunderstands the nature of the health care bill. Americans are already dependent---on the health insurance companies. What shouldn't happen is that those private companies take advantage of people in their dependence. On this, the GOP and I will have to disagree.
There is really no way that the GOP will be able to neuter anything in that bill. I do find it a little ironic, however, that should they magically repeal the whole thing that their plan to reduce out deficit will go up in smoke. The CBO, which scores both the deficit and the health care plan, has that bill as providing medium and long-term deficit reduction. So when it comes to making a decision to reduce the deficit or get rid of health care insurance reform, I fully expect the Republicans to---start blaming Obama for the unemployment rate. Their willingness to engage in misdirection over policy advancement has reached epic heights.
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Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 11:02
Boldwin, is it possible for you to comment on politicians or political races without slamming a candidate or without accusing the Dems of cheating the system?
Do you really believe that every Dem who wins got in because the voting booth was rigged or the vote counters cheated?
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 11:13
Farn
Offhand I only remember contesting six specific dem races over the years. There is no mistaking what Soros is attempting in monopolizing the vote counters everywhere however. Franken was a specifc beneficiary.
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Building 7 Leader
ID: 171572711 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 11:43
Rand Paul: "We've come to take our government back."
I hope so.
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Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 12:25
From who?
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Mith
ID: 28646259 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 13:25
Those with the audacity to guarantee the right of minorities to be served at a lunch counter.
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Khahan
ID: 373143013 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 14:45
and we're right back to the same old bashing rhetoric that has put our country in the crapper.
Congratz guys. took you all of 24 hours to revert.
Stop with the ridiculous partisan crap trying to smear the other side because both sides do just a fine job of making themselves look like arrogant, greedy jackasses.
Campaign time is OVER. No need for this kind of rhetoric. Its time to turn your attentions to actual people running our government and keep them in line.
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Mith
ID: 28646259 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 14:53
Sorry if Rand Paul's own words are offensive to you Khahan, but please don't blame me for them. I don't think that particular position of his was campaign speak, either, though declaring his endeavor to "take our country back" sure sounds like it.
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 18:54
"We've come to take our government back."
From who?
From those who think they deserve to run our life and spend our money.
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Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 18:57
From those who think they deserve to run our life and spend our money.
Nobody but me runs my life so I don't by that.
And these newly elected politicians, are they canceling all taxes? If not, then um, wouldn't they be spending our money too?
Btw, if we elected them doesn't that give them the right to think they can spend our money (aka taxes)? Silly me but I'd think that's part of their job as elected officials; to spend tax money. Otherwise why would we have taxes?
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Mith
ID: 28646259 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 19:09
Farn
You know you're taking all the fun out of their favorite platitudes.
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DWetzel
ID: 33337117 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 19:35
Re: 141 -- so they're going to take it back from... themselves? I can't wait to see this startling transformation.
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Boldwin
ID: 0102036 Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 22:32
You think and act like it's your money once you've figured out how to extract it.
Close as I can quote it by memory: [4 hours after polls closed] "Oh I think there's still polls open and they're still cooking the books." - Illinois state senator Rickey Hendon, big Quinn supporter...either letting cat out of bag or accusing downstate as he spun it later.
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DWetzel
ID: 278201415 Fri, Nov 05, 2010, 10:27
(in again after ludicrous charges of Chicago mafia machine)
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DWetzel
ID: 278201415 Fri, Nov 05, 2010, 10:28
Oh, and I've only got one entry to fill in on the second row. Can we start a talk about tax policy again? I'm about 90% to hit.
Truth is, you can pretty much spin this election any way you want to. And many people have used it to justify what they already believed before the election. That is the beauty (and drawback) of a sprawling national election.
In fact, you can even take away from this election the fact that, when faced with a clear national direction toward one party, you can simply ignore the "mandate" (and combine it with constant demonizing of that party's leadership), since two years later the result will be a sweep for the other side...
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Boldwin
ID: 40104574 Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 05:48
Alan Grayson
I have to say a few good words bout Alan Grayson. I have every reason to feel the same way towards him that the average lib feels towards AC, but I am bigger than that.
Alan had that all important virtue going for him, he was never boring. Very quick and witty, acerbic, carried himself far better than any freshman congressman should be expected to. He sadly chose to run a disgraceful 'liberal troll' campaign that should have been beneath him but which seemed acceptable in the troll echo-chambers he must have slummed in. But he was from a district too sensible to forgive him for it.
It wouldn't surprise me to see him pick up Molly Ivan's cape and run with it. I don't think we've seen the last of him. Not quite good enuff to be AC's evil nemesis today but close enuff to see him in the role someday.
You would have thought that some of the brighter minds in the Republican Party would have realized that the voters didn't vote FOR them ... they voted AGAINST Democrats. This "Hey! How cool are we!" stuff is going to get tiring.
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Frick
ID: 21016718 Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 16:07
And it is also worth mentioning that plenty of people voted for the Democrat and not the Tea Party Republican, but keep pushing the Tea Party angle.
I think this will actually help the Dems in the next election. The far right Republicans will push as many Tea Party candidates as they can. The net result is the middle votes for the Democrat, rather than the Tea Partier.
To be fair, when I think of Tea Partier I think of Christine O'Donnell and bat-#&!) crazy is a decent summary. Pretty much the same would be true is the Republicans nominate Palin. It would result in the one of the largest landslide we've seen in a long time. I guess the upside is we might see fewer commercials.
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Boldwin
ID: 311018917 Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 18:54
Wait till you see Adam Kinzinger. From my district and one of two Tea Party freshmen picked to guide the transition to majority. Normally only one freshman makes it on these teams but this was no typical election.
Have fun dismissing guys like that and the people who all voted for him as bat$#@^crazy. Don't learn a thing from this election. Digest this, the senate seats which happened to come up this cycle favored Dems, were largely blue states. Next cycle naturally favors Republicans in twice as many states.
Now heads back in sand, forget you heard that. Next cycle will be a Dem cakewalk so you can safely dismiss it and whistle past this years Dem cemetary. Afterall, no one takes the bat$#@^crazy seriously.
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Boldwin
ID: 311018917 Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 18:59
they voted AGAINST Democrats - PD
Only half right. just as importantly they voted against republicans who spend like democrats.
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Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522 Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 19:23
You didn't note that it was a quote, it seems. Missed the point as well.
I'll send flowers to your political funeral. Keep playing that flute.
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Tree, not at home
ID: 18342816 Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 09:05
Have fun dismissing guys like that and the people who all voted for him as bat$#@^crazy.
FWIW, just because you actually finally got one of your predictions right doesn't mean the rest will be. so far, you're well below the Mendoza line.
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Tree, not at home
ID: 18342816 Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 16:46
Seattle Zen Leader
ID: 055343019 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 02:30
The judge ruled without waiting for the state to provide its defense of the election. He said state lawyers didn't even need to respond to Miller's latest filings. He ordered Miller's entire federal case dismissed.
I've never seen this done, wow, what a slap in his face.
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Boldwin
ID: 4011522918 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 06:11
Never saw Dems so happy to see corrupt insider Republicans win big.
"Hey you Republicans, why don't you nominate all your smoke-filled backroom hacks? There's your winning strategy. Can't you see that?"
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DWetzel
ID: 33337117 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 09:28
IT'S A TEA PARTY SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, wait, the Koch-funded right wing anti-human-rights, anti-earmarks (except their own, of course), anti-fiscal-responsibility party didn't win everything? I'm stunned. What happened? Couldn't even get people to just squiggle in a circle instead of learning how to spell Murkowski?
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J-Bar
ID: 581124222 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 22:04
Kinda funny, I think Boldwin and Dwetzel are mirror images, other than one is left and the other right but both equally irrelevant. LMAO
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DWetzel
ID: 33337117 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 22:47
If it helps, mine was satirical.
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J-Bar
ID: 581124222 Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 23:11
If it helps, the reference was historical and not related to just your last post. Still LMAO
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DWetzel
ID: 33337117 Fri, Dec 31, 2010, 09:06
Next time at least compare me to Terri Schiavo. That would be far less insulting to me.
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