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Subject: Food Suppliments
Posted by: Boldwin
- [12214143] Mon, Apr 09, 2012, 20:20
Vitamins, natural organic compounds, herbs...unnecessary? Vital? Dangerous?
What regulations are coming down the pike and why are doctors so against vitamins?
I just watched my father-in-law deteriorate from the sharpest mind in the home into dull invalid in six months and then death after his doctor forbid him taking the vitamins he had been taking all his 89 years. Not a nod of respect for that accomplishment from the doctor. Not a hint of mea culpa either.
Vitamins were discovered or rediscovered and their recommended dossages, by science so why are doctors so down on them? You never here sports doctors and regular doctors debate the issue.
It boggles the mind and yet there are a hint here and there that there is reason for caution.
For one thing, Iron, much balleyhooed for decades for the elderly, was found to cause heart attacks in excess dossages.
This interesting take on resveratrol looks like an unbiased and cautious approach to a newer supplement.
Doc Dean Adele likes to raise the spector of vitamins possibly encouraging tumor growth. I'm not so impressed that that isn't just regurgitated big pharma talkin'. |
| 1 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 09, 2012, 20:31
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FDA
UN: Codex Alimentarius
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| 2 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 11:56
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I am not sure why you are saying doctors are down on vitamins, I think they are just more cautious about recommending them now. I would also say that research has shown that massive douses which were popular a decade ago have been shown to possibly harmful.
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| 3 | Khahan
ID: 373143013
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 12:55
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There are 2 types of vitamins:
1) all natural supplements and homeopathic ones
2) labratory tested and verified ones
These days the lines between the 2 are so blurred to the general public that its hard to tell the difference. And that is why doctors are more cautious and 'down' on vitamins. They are down on the unproven, untested, commercialized 'take gengsinbalony and improve your life' type of vitamins.
Another factor is that there have been huge strides in dietary knowledge in the past 2 decades. There are now even better and healthier recommendations for diets for what is good, whats not. People can easily get their vitamin needs filled by a balanced healthy diet. The need for even the clinically tested and proven supplements is simplpy down.
I think it makes perfect sense that vitamins aren't being pushed as much anymore.
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| 4 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 18:27
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Dean Adele is downright hostile to them. My father-in-law's doctor forbid them when he went in the home.
I'd say they are more than a little down on them.
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| 5 | Tree
ID: 203531017
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 18:55
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Dean Edell is a bit of a whack job...oh, never mind.
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| 6 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 19:32
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Vitamins and other supplements can interfere with a drug regimen on any number of levels. Ceasing supplements (while keeping someone on a strict diet) is also a very good way to get an intake baseline.
Hard to say why your doctor say no to more vitamins, but it could very well have to do with reasons other than disrespecting your father's previous intake.
I don't suppose you asked the doctor the reason for the change?
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| 7 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 10:13
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I don't suppose you asked the doctor the reason for the change?
No we immediately lined up his next doctor who would allow vitamins and took him to see him. However the new doctor didn't visit the home he was in, and so we were going to wait till he got accepted at the VA home. (seven ahead of him on the list)
He never made it there.
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| 8 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 10:24
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Sorry to hear that.
Its tough, from the outside, to deconstruct the reason the doctor took him off vitamins. There are some very good reasons to take a patient off all supplements. Or, the doctor could have just been a control freak who only wanted what he said to go into a patient's body.
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