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Subject: Predictions 2012
Posted by: sarge33rd
- [12554167] Mon, Sep 10, 2012, 18:18
WAY early, but I found this site and wanted to post a link. From a quick perusal, they seem to have a very respectable degree of success in the past, though the past data is limited. (2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010 elections)
as of today, they are calling for:
Obama: 347 Romney: 191
Senate: 49 Rep Dems: 47 "Too close to call": 4
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| 525 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:12
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House GOP control, was retained PURELY through the gerrymandering following 2010's midterms. Honest people, dont even bother to deny that.
Why did the GOP lose seats in the Senate? Why did the GOP WH candidate, get THRASHED?
The TP, is a has been, whose power is gone. Either the GOP recognizes that, or it will die,
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| 526 | Boldwin
ID: 361012125 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:16
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Yeah, and Keynes backpeddled just a tiny bit at the end, and Krugman even suggests UFO's as an economic solution. So Krugman is...overrated.
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| 527 | Boldwin
ID: 361012125 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:19
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Sometimes the electorate deliberately chooses divided government. Thus choosing limited movement, signalling their indecision or desire to go slow.
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| 528 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:24
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hmmmm take B's word on economics, or a Nobel Prize winners in Krugman??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm tough call......
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| 529 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:31
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Democrats in contested House races received more votes than did Republicans in House races. Sure--sometimes they do vote deliberately for divided government. Few, however vote for government to come to a standstill. This is why Tea Party members have had such a difficult time winning re-election.
Sometimes people vote but it really doesn't count. The GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes for President, for instance.
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| 530 | biliruben
ID: 21841115 Mon, Nov 12, 2012, 13:52
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Yet Friedman's empiricism also led him into disagreements with his free-market supporters. He dismissed the conservative view that deficit spending was necessarily bad, or that tax cuts stimulated the economy in the short run.
If you are talking about Hayak, he's a dreamer with a bit of trouble with math. He would probably be right at home stumping for Romney's 5 + 2 = -20 plan.
If you are talking about Friedman, his views are diametrically opposed to the Tea Party nonsense.
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| 531 | Boldwin
ID: 2810151220 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 06:01
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Pepsi looking to layoff 4,000 workers
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| 532 | Boldwin
ID: 2810151220 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 08:24
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NBCUniversal to lay off 1.5% of its workforce
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| 533 | Tree
ID: 57842011 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 08:26
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Pepsi looking to layoff 4,000 workers
tsk tsk. you're being proven wrong very quickly again.
try having some self-respect. do even the slightest bit of research, will ya? or stop lying. whichever one the case may be this time.
That news is nearly a year old.
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| 534 | Tree
ID: 57842011 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 09:24
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NBCUniversal to lay off 1.5% of its workforce...
...of about 30,000, in a round of belt-tightening that began in September.
let me finish that for you, so it's actually honest...
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| 535 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 11:38
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RomneyRyanCorp planning to immediately lay off 100% of its workforce...
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| 536 | Boldwin
ID: 2810151220 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 14:08
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From #NJ real estate agent Rick Ambrose: Online interest is down over 50%; activity for listings and showings almost zero
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| 538 | slug
ID: 167132313 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 14:18
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According to Fannie Mae's recently released October National Housing Survey, Americans continue to show growing confidence in home price increases over the next 12 months, providing further indications of a slow but steady recovery. Consumer confidence, along with an increase in rental price expectations, may encourage more consumers to purchase a home in the coming months
Is it possible that the NJ info in post 536 is a result of some recent severe weather in the area?
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| 539 | Boldwin
ID: 2810151220 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 14:23
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Fair point.
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| 540 | Tree
ID: 1110281314 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 15:28
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From #NJ real estate agent Rick Ambrose: Online interest is down over 50%; activity for listings and showings almost zero
Rick Ambrose is a Realtor with Coldwell Banker specializing in lakefront real estate and distinctive MLS homes for sale in Lake Mohawk, Sparta, Mendham and Randolph NJ.
yes. lakefront real estate and "distinctive" home sales are still down.
how is this news, or relevant?
meanwhile, my dad, who is a realtor in Bergen County, NJ, is having his best year over the last six.
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| 541 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 15:32
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That is a really nice area of NJ. Not a surprise that kind of area will be very late in enjoying a resurgence of housing sales.
Here's the Mendham NJ listings on realtor.com from cheapest to most expensive.
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| 542 | Boldwin
ID: 1210341416 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 08:45
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BLS plays catch-up.
U.S. weekly jobless claims jump 78,000 to 439,000, an 18 month high.
Hmm, bogus impossible lowball figure just before election to 18 month high figure week after election.
Hmmmm...who could have possibly seen that coming?
We are deep in 1984.
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| 543 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 11:24
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As far as we know, you are part of it, too. That's why no one really believes your numbers anymore.
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| 544 | Mith
ID: 98342014 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 12:05
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BLS says most of the increases occurred in areas hit by Sandy.
I guess it's preposterous to thgink the worst natural disaster to hit the most populous part of the country in a century might significantly notch up national jobless claims.
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| 548 | Boldwin
ID: 61050158 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 13:28
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April 2, 2003 - You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security. --- What I liked about this segment is that they interviewed General Yevgeni Primakov, who is now a consultant to the Department of Homeland Security along with General Alexander Karpov.
Primakov was laughing about it because he's getting paid a big fee to do it. He doesn't care, of course. Primakov speaks beautiful English, as you would expect a former head of the KGB to do. When he was asked what is this CAPPS II program really about, because obviously even "terrorists" could have credit ratings.
Primakov said that this is one of the steps now being employed along with NICA and new identity upgrade features which are coming to your driver's license. It is being used to get the people used to new types of documentation and carrying new types of identity cards pursuant to the United States instituting a formal policy of internal passports. And he actually used the words "internal passports."
It's like he said and he was pretty knowledgeable. When the NICA (National Identity Card Act) gets passed, the Posse Comitatus Act gets overturned, a few other pieces of legislation yet to be proffered get passed, the White House will have more control over the American people than the Kremlin had over the Russian people when Stalin was alive. He said that and then he laughed.
What Primakov finds funny are what he calls these "right wing flag wavers" that were so anti-communist and now they're supporting a state policy of internal passports.
The irony is deafening.
Then there's General Karpov, former KGB station chief of their Washington station at their embassy and the first director of the Russian Federal Security Service.
You could call this the "Sovietization of America." Primakov said he can't wait to get on the payroll (he called it the "pay corps," referring to the Heritage Foundation, the PNAC and all the other right wing foundations in the United States) He cant get over how many ex-KGB generals and colonels still want to come over to the United States and become consultants to get on the pay corps.
It has been reported that Nikita Krushchev Jr. works for the Heritage Foundation. Another right wing foundation has Elena Stalin. The Old Soviet Brand names are all coming to Washington to get on the gravy train and teach the Bush administration how to further restrict the rights of the American people.
And Primakov is waiting for the USSA, The United Soviet States of America. It'll probably make him feel right at home.
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| 549 | Mith
ID: 98342014 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 13:40
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Why in the world is that relevant?
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| 550 | Tree
ID: 1210521512 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 13:58
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April 2, 2003 - You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security.
did you even bother to read your own unattributed article (which, likely, is plagiarism, since you copy and pasted word-for-word with no attribution)?
notice the date. 2003. Bush's presidency. there's also been similar articles written in 2004 and 2005.
but none on any mainstream site.
anyway, not at all sure what your point is, but it's certainly a funny post considering the date.
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| 551 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:04
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Remember--this is the Predictions thread, Tree. So this is about the future...
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| 552 | Mith
ID: 98342014 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:06
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LOL!
I noticed that Daily Kos ran part of that article on 11/14/2004. So maybe he came across a version that he thought was current and rused to post it, blind by his seething hate for the president of the United States which (as should be obvious to every forum member) trumps his principle of not bearing false witness.
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| 553 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:13
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Back to the Future!
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| 554 | Boldwin
ID: 61050158 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:14
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I put the date right up front. As you know I consider neocons to be Trotskyites and certainly the Bush family isn't any less a globalist tool than Obama is.
People need to be watching FEMA and the DHS very very carefully. The constitution's grip on that bunch is slim to none.
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| 555 | Boldwin
ID: 61050158 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:17
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And that post followed a quote from 1958 which someone thot was just more truth you all couldn't handle.
Totalitarians are relentless. They operate from the big picture and the long haul.
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| 556 | Boldwin
ID: 61050158 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:20
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Look around. Commit what you see to memory. One of the most oft-quoted Reaganisms warns that "one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free."
We better start making memories of freedom so we can tell or children and our children's children what America was like when we were young. When we were free. - Jacqueline Otto
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| 557 | Mith
ID: 98342014 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:36
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Sure. But why post that now and here?
Why not in the Big Brother thread, which is where you posted it to back when the story was current.
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| 558 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 14:49
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Because this thread has turned into Boldwin's Free Form Anxieties Thread. Not a big stretch, on the Right, from "Predictions."
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| 559 | Tree
ID: 331031515 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 16:03
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Because this thread has turned into Boldwin's Free Form Anxieties Thread.
dang. i was close. i had it under "not able to figure out how to start his own blog. oh, and batshirt crazy too."
i have to admit, i'm enjoying his rants. reminds me of the "preachers" on Times Square.
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| 560 | Great One
ID: 2431114 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 16:10
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Did Boldwin predict anywhere that Obama would lose? I am just curious.
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| 561 | Tree
ID: 331031515 Thu, Nov 15, 2012, 16:41
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post 22, from Baldwin: Ill refine this later, but I predict:
56 republican seats in the senate
245/155 split in the house favoring the republicans
Romney by 3%
i don't know that he ever refined it.
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| 569 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Fri, Nov 16, 2012, 21:40
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See gap between 544 and 548.
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| 570 | biliruben
ID: 59551120 Fri, Nov 16, 2012, 23:35
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You were planning on refining your prediction 10 days after the election?
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| 572 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 09:56
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Shocks the heck out of me.
Huffpo does a poll. Huffington Post conducted their own poll to determine national support for the idea. Four questions were asked to ascertain 1) awarness of secession, 2) support for secession in general, 3) support for Texas to secede, and 4) support for their own state to secede. Below are the results to the fourth question, “Would you support or oppose >your< state seceding from the United States?”
Strongly support 12.4% Tend to support 10.4% Tend to oppose 10.3% Strongly oppose 41.6% Not sure 25.3%
These results, which were collected November 14-15 with a sample size of 100, were released at 5:31pm EST Friday under the headline “Secession Poll: Majority Opposes Their State Seceding From The Union,” a technically accurate but somehwhat “minimalist” approach to headline writing.
It seems more than striking–and headline worthy–that 22.4 percent of Americans “strongly” or “tend to” support their state seceding. Coupled with the more than 700,000 signatures that have so far been signed onto various states’ petitions, a case is building for more than the normal post-defeat malaise.
And the White House has announced that they will respond to the secession petitions that meet the 25,000 signature requirement by December 9, when the first qualified petitions (including Texas) expire.
If President Obama thought he had a task to unite the country in 2008, just look at the divisions he’s having to heal in 2012. Forward? There are barely 40% of the population that even follow politics. I would have presumed numbers this high would have only obtained in Texas.
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| 573 | biliruben
ID: 21841115 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 10:38
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I'm personally pro-city-state. Objectively, we in the cities are the job creators. The rest are faux conservative leeches, sucking and bruising the tender government teet we spend so much time and resources nurturing.
You abuse and disrespect your betters, so it may be better for you to go out into the wide-wide world and finally learn to take care of yourself.
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| 574 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 10:59
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Please.
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| 575 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 11:04
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“Don’t worry Israel, Obama has your back,” Reisman tweeted Tuesday, linking to the image.
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| 576 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 11:09
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bili
If all you 'makers' in the blue zones [*bellylaugh*] ever get tired of carrying the rest of us in the red zones, please feel free to 'Let my people go'.
Feel no compunction. Just do it. We'll muddle along without you.
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| 577 | DWetzel
ID: 25740420 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 12:08
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Nobody's stopping you. Costa Rica is a short bus ride away.
And I mean short bus in both senses of the word.
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| 578 | Tree
ID: 231071713 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 14:07
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575 couldn't be more dishonest and wrong.
as the conflict escalates...
A White House spokesman, saying "the precipitating factor for the conflict was the rocket fire coming out of Gaza" into civilian areas, stressed that "Israel has a right to defend itself. He also underscored the importance of Israel avoiding civilian casualties.
fully supportive of Israel, despite Baldwin's hopes for the destruction of both the United States and Israel.
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| 579 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 15:34
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I'm not hoping for any destruction. Putting the MB is charge of the muslim world and Obama in charge of ours guarantees destruction.
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| 580 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 15:34
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No it doesnt.
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| 581 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 19:44
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Hostess Union Leader's salaries.

Parasites actually care if the host survives.
I see Democrats.
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| 582 | sarge33rd
ID: 12554167 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 19:47
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all together, just barely over half of what the CEO took, just before filing BK.
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| 583 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 20:08
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I wonder if there are any skinny union leaders? I haven't seen any.

I Frank Hurt Hostess.
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| 584 | Perm Dude
ID: 201027169 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 20:24
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Those union leaders, of course, were in charge of a union far greater than just hostess. And the Right still doesn't seem to care that the union had given back $110 million to the company.
The hacks aren't interested in the fact that don't back up their crazy point that somehow unions were to blame for this.
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| 585 | Boldwin
ID: 910431619 Sat, Nov 17, 2012, 20:40
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Get it back after the recovery. This isn't rocket science. And you do have faith recovery is right around the corner, right?
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| 587 | Tree
ID: 57842011 Sun, Nov 18, 2012, 14:32
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Hostess Union Leader's salaries.
which pale in comparison to the salaries of the Hostess Board of Directors.
I see Democrats.
you see nothing. you speculate, without regard to facts.
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