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Subject: Season VII - Discussion Thread

  Posted by: Great One - [1341138] Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 10:41
Keep the chatter out of the picks thread...
 
1Great One
      ID: 38341138
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 10:41 		Some amazing work Farn!
 
2Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 10:43 		LOL

yeah, nobody cuts and pastes like I do. I also have a real knack for color coordinating things. I should be teaching kindergarten with these skills. :)


Pick 1 coming in just a minute...

(and I can take queues for anybody)
 
3Great One
      ID: 31353138
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 10:53 		Someone delete that other thread... all I said was I would consider moving Big Show if you'd rather have him than who is available w/ your first pick. Damn translator.
 
4kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 11:15 		Off to work. GO has my work email, so he can email me whenever Im up for round 1.
 
5GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 13:00 		I'm in the middle of a telcon at work.
Give me a few minutes and I'll pick.

Cliff
 
6Great One
      ID: 113161311
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 13:16 		Gotta say this is one of my favorite drafts of the year... probably only behind the NFL.
 
7Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 13:48 		I'm gonna step out for a bit so don't send queues to me until I get back.
 
8Great One
      ID: 33201312
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 14:20 		Leaving at 2:30, should be home around 3.
 
9Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 15:53 		Queues to Cliff and GO
 
10Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 15:58 		And I am heading out til later as I am now filling in for a softball game... I emailed a couple people kev's email address. Cliff should have you covered Species. I'll forward the que to Tree too since he doesn't go til after you either.
 
11GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 16:35 		Won't be able to check my gmail account until I get home.
Couple of hours from now.

Cliff
 
12Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 18:00 		I should be fairly close to a computer from here on out. I also have kev's queue.
 
13Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 18:08 		I'm back for the night and I've got kev's email.
 
14GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 18:58 		OK,
Heading home shortly.
Will check when I get there.

Cliff
 
15GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 20:13 		OK,
I'm home.
Will check after dinner.

Cliff
 
16Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:09 		Hey, I got to pick......sort of.
 
17Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:09 		its very very possible that we can get all the way to Tree's pick in Round 2 in the next 10-15 minutes.

Between Goalocker and I we have queue's and/or picks for every spot before that.

kev, are you home and would prefer to pick on your own now?
 
18Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:12 		Only had 1 left in the queue for Species, and used it, so he'll have to pick unless someone else has an update......
 
19Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:13 		ah alright, i'm guessing Goatlocker has the same queue then so we may be paused.
 
20Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:16 		And I was hoping these guys would last until the end of round 2. lol
 
21wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 23:24 		sorry guys, I worked from 630 am til 11pm today. When I saw farns message I sent my pick right back. I will try to leave a queue for tomorrow.
 
22 slosh23
      ID: 54857316
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 00:09 		Just checking in...even though I don't have a pick for awhile (thanks GO... ; ) ). Its midnight EST, I will be back on pretty early tomorrow too and available for the day. Since I don't have a pick for awhile if anyone wants to sent me queues I'm game.
 
23GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 01:10 		Sorry Guys,
Got busy doing Thank You cards.

Will check again in the morning before I head to work.

Cliff
 
24Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 09:42 		wish I had know Goat was going to pick at 1am. Sadly I was actually awake.
 
25Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 10:18 		Farn - your second round pick was better than your first... ;o)
 
26Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 10:21 		yeah, I just listed them both. Both picks would stink in the 1st round.

What an awful year to have 3 picks in the first 11. Way too much talent kept by the top teams. Everybody made the "let me trade my top scorer for a #1 pick" trade and inturn it kept a ton of talent off the FA list.

I can only imagine how bad my round 4 pick will be.
 
27Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 12:02 		my Season VII proposal on ECW has me chuckling to myself. I'll tell you why when the vote is final.
 
28Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 14:32 		is kev working today and needs an email?
 
29Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 14:40 		Farn - I'd assume so. I just sent him an email and copied you. Hopefully he'll reply soon to the both of us.
 
30Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Apr 14, 2006, 23:43 		I wonder if kev knows he's on the clock.

Not a huge issue since we have all next week too but it would be nice to get things going again.

If anybody needs to leave queues feel free to send them to me. I don't pick for a long while...
 
31Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 09:19 		i'm heading out for a few hours. should be home by 1pm at the latest. hopefully kev shows up by then.
 
32GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 10:32 		I'll be in and out all day.
Will check off and on.
Can take a queue if needed.
Won't open the email until you are up.

Cliff
 
33kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 11:43 		Sorry guys. Became an uncle yesterday, and was with the family.

Will make my pick shortly.
 
34Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 12:25 		ah, no problem kev. Congrats. I have a nephew myself. Such a great feeling.

Best wishes to mom and son/daughter.
 
35GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 12:49 		Family first.
Always.

Just ask me.

Cliff
 
36Tree
      ID: 323581512
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 14:59 		man, if Bond, Slosh, and Mike D are all around at the same time, this draft flies into the third round!
 
37Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 15:02 		I emailed Bond giving him a heads up after Kev picked.
 
38Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 15:04 		am I nuts or are there little question marks in the first few posts of this thread under usernames?
 
39wiggs
      ID: 183411420
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 15:05 		your nuts
 
40Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 15:37 		....are lopsided.
 
41Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 15:48 		lol. well played mike d.


looks fine now. i'm crazy. :)
 
42Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 16:40 		Tree has him Slosh, Brian Kendrick = Spanky.
 
43slosh23
      ID: 54857316
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 17:00 		eh ... I thought that might have been the case.
 
44Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 17:03 		Hopefully Bond didn't go far.
 
45Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 17:06 		Slosh, if you don't wanna wait around, you could just send a 2-man que to Mike D and he could make 3 straight picks whenever Bond checks in.
 
46Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 17:14 		or me, i'm here

farney*at*gmail*dot*com
 
47kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 18:39 		I dont pick again until the 4th round, in which I might take Kobe Bryant the way the talent is decreasing...

I wont be around much tonight/Sunday, but will be at work Monday, so I will be able to make picks then...at the latest.

Sister and nephew are doing great.
 
48Tree
      ID: 22340166
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 12:53 		i've been waiting an entire round to see if Harry Smith would make it back to me. i'm floored, but exhilirated that he did though...

i believe Smith to be the best non-first round pick this league has ever had.
 
49Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 12:59 		Trade Annoucnement
Goatlocker trades
Alejandro Estrada + Season 8 4th Round Pick
for
GO's
Pick 3.04 of this draft + Season 8 3rd Round Pick

He is now on the clock.
 
50wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:06 		i wanted smith with my 2, but hoped no one would touch him since he wont be debuting for about another month and a half or so. I guess I messed that one up.
 
51Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:08 		I would have taken him here myself.
 
52Tree
      ID: 22340166
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:08 		i'm thinking that ultimately, that one month, won't make a difference. i think he'll be a top 10 scorer in this league during even this partial season, and i may not get to keep him more than just this partial...
 
53GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:24 		I agree with the trade.

Will choose in just a minute.

Cliff
 
54wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:27 		dam, haas was next on my list. This isnt good.
 
55Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:31 		Thats who I was looking at too (again! lol..) but just like Smith I really needed to get someone immediately on TV to fill out a starting lineup.
 
56Tree
      ID: 22340166
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:34 		i'm thinking that ultimately, that one month, won't make a difference. i think he'll be a top 10 scorer in this league during even this partial season, and i may not get to keep him more than just this partial...
 
57Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:35 		I agree with you 2x over!
 
58GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:37 		Being the glutton for punishment that I am, Charlie gets one more chance.

Cliff
 
59Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 13:54 		Not a bad gamble for your 8th and final player though! lol...
 
60Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 15:26 		queue sent to GO.

i'll be gone til 8ish i think.
 
61Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 21:36 		wow, no picks? geez.

GO, if you can keep that queue since I'll be gone all day tomorrow.
 
62kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 10:37 		Off to work right now. When Tree picks, someone can email me there...

Next question- can I take God and get tag team points at Backlash?
 
63Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 10:45 		If you mean Shane O' Mac, I got him. ;)
 
64Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 10:48 		i was set to pick Chavo, but when he was taken, decided to go with a reach for my last pick.
 
65kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 10:53 		got my pick in before leaving.

I still want God though.
 
66Great One
      ID: 33347179
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 11:47 		I was wondering if I could pick God myself :)

I also think in the interest of fairness this draft needs to be done before RAW starts (otherwise I would have just sat on that pick til Wednesday morning hoping someone would debut).
 
67Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 12:02 		this has been the most fun draft we've had in awhile. i think the lack of big stars has meant we've had to dig deeper, be more creative, and take some risks.

i'm actually surprised at some of the guys out still out there.

as for Shortstack, i'm keeping my fingers crossed he makes his debut tonight...
 
68Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 12:50 		And I thought you were just hungry Tree.
 
69Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 13:04 		lol. well, Shortstack may make his WWE debut tonight. but, they're also looking at signing him to a contract, and if they do, they might not run tonight's vignette, since it's not quite "in character"...

but we'll see....
 
70Great One
      ID: 543161711
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 13:16 		I googled that name and came up with
 
71Great One
      ID: 223191711
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 13:19 		Worlds Sexiest Midget Wrestler
 
72Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 13:39 		Are the original waivers set as the inverse of last year's standings?
 
73Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 13:41 		that's the one and only GO. he was in a vignette taped last week, that ended up being bumped to this week. i know that both Triple H and Ricky Steamboat are high on him, so he may actually get a deal...
 
74Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 15:35 		Should be inverse from the draft order (prior to traded picks) I think Species
 
75Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 15:50 		Mike D. is correct. Inverse of draft order before any trades.
 
76Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 16:01 		Cool. Hey, Kerwin White is still available. (oops, mentioned an undrafted name.....or not)
 
77Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 00:50 		And Cliff's 3rd round pick looks like a nice move!!
 
78kev
      Donor
      ID: 043111845
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 01:43 		Greatest trade ever....
 
79Tree
      ID: 28352184
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 07:05 		Shortstack - playing the role of "Javier" in "Goldust & Snitsky make a propostition to Candice."
 
80Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 08:53 		I also think in the interest of fairness this draft needs to be done before RAW starts (otherwise I would have just sat on that pick til Wednesday morning hoping someone would debut).


Geez, how ironic is that?
 
81Great One
      ID: 54322187
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 09:22 		Yeah, I guess if those picking before me went before the Smackdown tapings started (and I left for softball) I wouldn't have had the option. Unfortunately, nobody debuted and I still picked who was on my normal que anyway. I was tempted to go with Goldust instead though, as he and Snitsky are supposedly on the PPV vs. Spirit Squad which is why I picked Mean Gene. That should mean that they will win a match on Monday to earn that shot, so thats a good start. Mike and I are a team now!

Striker did a WWE Unlimited promo last week as well, so I figured I'd mix it up as he seems to be getting a mini-push. Little surprised nobody chose him (or a few others guys for that matter).

Big Show is available for Smackdown talent as I need to balance out my roster between the shows.
 
82Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 09:24 		Striker's promo actually got cancelled last week so no, he didn't do one I don't believe.

Had I had the luxury of seeing Raw before my pick last night, well, I would have taken him too.

Like I said, ironic. :)
 
83Great One
      ID: 38338187
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 09:38 		And I guess the fact that he was supposed to be having a promo on RAW last week was enough to get him on that list i sent to Mike D yesterday wondering why the hell nobody chose him...
 
84Great One
      ID: 53340187
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 09:40 		And I guess the fact that he was supposed to be having a promo on RAW last week was enough to get him on that list i sent to Mike D yesterday wondering why the hell nobody chose him...
 
85Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:00 		from post 27

my Season VII proposal on ECW has me chuckling to myself. I'll tell you why when the vote is final.

I was chuckling because almost to a tee anyone who stood to gain points from an ECW PPV was voting yes, while those who had almost no chance to have someone appear on the PPV were voting no. Coincidence? You can say not but I'm not sold.

Anyway, I voted no because thats the way it appeared to me and I'd rather keep everyone happy and stay status quo unless a large majority had wanted to include it.
 
86Great One
      ID: 23327189
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:27 		Well I don't have any ECW, I just thought it would be kind of fun. Then I was gonna propose and ECW spot where we could all pick one (non WWE contracted) ECW guy for the PPV - exempt from waiver priority, in reverse of current standings - so we all had a rooting interest for that one show. Of course that would never happen, but it sounded fun.

I am a little surprised that the dotcom game isn't scoring SNME. That show is bigger than any normal weekly RAW or SD and you'd think they'd be trying to keep pushing it like that.
 
87Great One
      ID: 46330189
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:30 		Well I don't have any ECW, I just thought it would be kind of fun. Then I was gonna propose and ECW spot where we could all pick one (non WWE contracted) ECW guy for the PPV - exempt from waiver priority, in reverse of current standings - so we all had a rooting interest for that one show. Of course that would never happen, but it sounded fun.

I am a little surprised that the dotcom game isn't scoring SNME. That show is bigger than any normal weekly RAW or SD and you'd think they'd be trying to keep pushing it like that.
 
88Great One
      ID: 55331189
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:31 		Well I don't have any ECW, I just thought it would be kind of fun. Then I was gonna propose and ECW spot where we could all pick one (non WWE contracted) ECW guy for the PPV - exempt from waiver priority, in reverse of current standings - so we all had a rooting interest for that one show. Of course that would never happen, but it sounded fun.

I am a little surprised that the dotcom game isn't scoring SNME. That show is bigger than any normal weekly RAW or SD and you'd think they'd be trying to keep pushing it like that.
 
89Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:43 		You can say that again
 
90GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:45 		and again and again
 
91Great One
      ID: 19359189
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 11:59 		This secret bypass system has its benefits and drawbacks I guess :) And rotoguru keeps timing out for some reason.
 
92Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 13:52 		"You can see us....at the bottom"

lmao - it sucks for Farn, but at least he has a good sense of humor about it. GREAT team name!
 
93Great One
      ID: 593341813
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 15:35 		wouldn't you CAN'T see me still work very well?
 
94wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 16:19 		Of course I voted yes because I could get points for it, but so could anyone else who picked someone who would wrestle there. I dont see why we wouldnt count it, it is a WWE ppv.

As for the draft picks after the show started. I totally agree. It bothers me that because I picked quickly I wasnt able to get a guy like striker who seems to now be getting a bit of a push and I wasted my pick on a guy not even in the federation. I think next season we need to say the draft needs to be over by sunday night, and if it isnt there needs to be some type of penalty.
 
95Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 16:42 		Subject: Heel/Face turns

Perhaps we ought to clarify what characters should have already been awarded turn points and what characters could be up for consideration, and the timing thereof.

Shelton Benjamin has certainly turned and I would land on the side that says he should have already been awarded points last season.

Mickie James - see Benjamin

Animal/Road Warrior - see Benjamin

Paul Birchill - assuming he was 'heel' to begin with, see Benjamin

Torrie Wilson - see Benjamin

Guys that could be up for debate for Season VII:

Carlito - we could see this coming, and the turn is certainly at least in motion right now during the "off season". If the turn sticks I'd probably lean towards no point award as it started before our current season started - but that's just my opinion.

John Cena - if a heel turn comes, I'd have to say it's legit for Season VII. Speculation online is immaterial compared to on-screen actions. I'd say he's eligible this year.

Kane - might not be a full turn, but more a swerve to promote the movie. But the timing of it makes it a bit of a tough call. In the end, after the movie he might "snap out of it" so to speak and go back to playing face.

Anyone else I'm missing who has already turned and who could be in the midst of a turn?
 
96Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 16:45 		It's an ECW PPV, not WWE. True some of the former ECW guys are now in WWE. Also, true they had some WWE guys crash the show last year to curse them out and get into a brawl, but that was just so they could advertise people like Kurt Angle as being on the show and draw viewers. Last year was a special "one time only" show for ECW. It was not a WWE PPV in those senses at all.

Now, because the fans loved it and it made $, it's back again. Fine by me, especially given my "This Is Extreme" team name.
 
97Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 16:53 		my whole team is turning every week, so i'll need turn points for everyone i start, each and every week...
 
98wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 18:57 		can some one tell me who is wrestling in ECW now? I dont believe the federation even exists. ECW was bought out by WWE and then contracted. When the ECW DVD comes out it has the WWE logo on it. I believe the PPV is WWE.
 
99Tree
      ID: 533101817
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 19:16 		when a bunch of guys who don't normally wrestle for the WWE wrestle on a PPV, it's hard to call it a regular WWE PPV.
 
100Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 20:01 		you know what i was just thinking? I think Mike D should provide stat tracker for this league, similar to what Yahoo has. Charge $10 a man and give live scoring.

Come on Mike D, that's your goal for this season.
 
101Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 22:35 		I'll be glad to charge $10 a man, and collect that amount. But since YOU do the live scoring, Farn, you need to handle that part.

;)
 
102Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 22:58 		You build the platform and I'll gladly run it. I score it live anyway so thats no change. Just build us a working model. :)

And we'll split fees in this case.
 
103Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Apr 18, 2006, 23:01 		"If you build it.......nerds will come."

Great line from the movie The Benchwarmers that's out right now. Definitely a guy movie, and my son and I loved it.

I don't know why I just thought of that.