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Subject: RWF - Season X Preseason discussion/organization


  Posted by: Species - Dude [07724916] Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 12:38

Well the seasons isn't officially over yet, but why not get started? After two seasons of GO and I battling it out (actually it wasn't much of a battle this year), it's likely that some new blood is ready to rise to the top due to some unfortunate circumstances, bad luck and aggressive trading giving GO and I only 3 legit scoring keepers and NO picks!

Of course, congratulations to GO for his 2nd title in 3 years.....and as he is want to remind me, only the out-of-nowhere Hardy tag title win on the RAW after Wrestlemania stopped him from making it a wiggs-esqe three in a row. This year should be interesting with some astute keeper management by Farn, some huge draft pick stockpiling by Tree and some of both by wiggs making for some fresh blood at the top. If nothing else, it is likely to at least be much more competitive.

Documenting trades that will affect the draft order:
Farn gets Species' 3rd round pick for his 4th (Season VIII Umaga deal)
Mike D gets Great One's 3rd round pick for his 4th (Season VIII Edge deal)
Tree gets Species' 1st and 2nd round pick for his 3rd and 4th round picks (Batista deal)
wiggs gets Farn's 1st round pick for his 4th (HBK deal)
Bobo gets Great One's 2nd round pick for his 4th (Nitro deal)
Rude gets Great One's 1st round pick for "his lowest at the time of the draft" (Flair deal)
Goatlocker gets Species' 2nd round pick (via Tree) and Tree's 4th round pick in Season 11 for his 1st round picks in Season X and Season XI (Khali)
Great One gets Rude's 2nd round pick for his 4th (Booker/VKM).

More to come as Standings become official.
 
1Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 12:54
Quick summary of rules adjustments for next season. We'll need to officially add these...

1 - No waiver claims after the final roster freeze of the season. All claims will need to be at least submitted 24 hours before the last deadline in order to clear and be posted.

2 - 1 waiver claim limit for all weeks of the season (nothing changed here)

3 - Starting in Season 10 - the last "week" of the season will only include the Wrestlemania PPV. We will have the rest of that week off to declare keepers and redraft and start the new season 8 days later. This will also be in effect for Season 11 (No Mercy PPV) and will be reviewed at this time next year to see how its going.

4 - Tiebreaker for top scorer scoring purposes will be to revert to scores for talent involved in the previous season (or seasons if by chance they tied two seasons in a row).
 
2Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 10:25
we need to get the ball rolling on the draft. first off we need to declare keepers (and i'd assume send them to GO).

maybe start the draft Wednesday morning so we can see full results of all 3 shows from this week?
 
3 Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:06
How about keepers due Wednesday by noon.
Feel free to email me them before that time of course.
 
4Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:09
I say keepers by that time because of the same reason (reading the results of the tapings for any last minute adjustments).

I believe that was our schedule last season and it was fine. Only takes a couple days for the whole draft so Thursday/Friday should be plenty of time. Especially with picks being bunched (ala Tree with all his picks in the top 15, and I have all mine at the end more or less).
 
5Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 11:56
i'm really going to have to start and finish the draft by thursday, as i leave friday morning for Vegas and San Fran..
 
6Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 12:03
Leave a 15 man queue.....lol

And amongst those high scorers you'll be choosing from include:

wiggs: Former Tag Team Champion, Domino
GoatLocker: Former World Heavyweight Champion, The GREAT Khali
Mike D: Former Women's Champion, Candice
Species: Current Tag Champion, Matt Hardy
Bobo: Former Tag Champion, Jeff Hardy
Farn: Former WWE Champion, Tag Champion, Hardcore Champion, Kane
Rude: Former ECW Champion, Vincent Kennedy McMahon
Zyre: Former Olympian, Mark Henry
Great One: Current ECW Champion, CM Punk
Tree: Mike Mizanin
 
7Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 12:51
it really is a weak, weak season to have 4 of the top 11 picks, that's for damned sure.
 
8Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 13:17
hahaha I finished in 3rd place and I had VKM as my top scorer.

*Does Rude Dance*
 
9Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 13:19
What a heel!
 
10Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 17:56
GEEEEEEEEEZ......I guess they are taping RAW, and without spoiling it let's just say it's a BAD TIME for my team not to be scoring points for Season X!!! Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
 
11Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:32
Thats pretty funny. Your keepers should get the night off next week to rest :0
 
12Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:58
Yeah -- HILARIOUS that 170-odd points are left on the table. :`(
 
13Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 01:19
Unbelievable.

Orton would have been:

2+30+10+10+10+2 for 64

Umaga would have been 90
 
14Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 01:31
Cry much?
 
15Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 08:47
Like I said, next week they should get the night off to rest up. Maybe give Carlito 3 matches, 1 vs. an apple in a cage.
 
16GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 09:05
Keepers sent to GO.

Cliff
 
17Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 11:20
Since they are in Europe - spoilers for SD/ECW taping will likely be available tonight, so for those still pending (Tree Mike Species Zyre Bobo), see if they are up tonight and try and get those keepers in so we can actually start this thing tomorrow.
 
18 Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 15:04
I am at home this week if anyone needs to reach me you can do it at the email address attached to my name.

Thanks, Team Rude.
 
19Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 15:16
i emailed you at work Greg - accidently. you weren't even the greg i wanted to email. lol. sorry about that.
 
20Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 15:48
Just an update in case anyone planned to keep or draft the following - released today so far...

Booker
Sharmell
Davari
 
21Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 16:14
davari got released? hmmm, interesting.

i wouldn't be surprised to see him back in ROH.
 
22 Bobo
      ID: 57944912
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 16:45
keepers have been submitted...
 
23Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 17:28
From the Wrestling Online Newsletter - kinda funny:

WRESTLEMANIA 22 CLIPS AIRS ON NBC'S HEROES
- In yesterday's episode of Heroes, one of the characters called Micah used
his powers to help get free pay-per-view to his cousin he was living with.
The PPV was WrestleMania 22 and they showed footage of Randy Orton wrestling
with Rey Mysterio with JBL and Michael Cole doing commentary. Earlier in the
show, the kid mentioned that he needed $65 to buy the pay-per-view and his
grandmother didn't want to give him the money and he said that it's
important because "it's the night of the tag team titles."

What they don't mention is that a new "hero" seemingly has the power to "record" someone visually doing something physical, and be able to replicate it. This girl say Mysterio do a 619 on Orton, and when someone was trying to rob her place of employment, she ran up to a pole and did a swinging 619 to knock out the robber! lol
 
24Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 19:29
Keepers sent in to GO.
 
25Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 21:54
Post #19 .. no probs Tree. Maybe now I will have something interesting to read :)
 
26Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 22:39
Mr. Rude, Tree inadvertantly cc'd me on that one as well, so here is a cut and paste of what it said in case you couldn't wait...

--spoilers--

Hey Greg,
Let me know what time you want me to pick you up for dinner. I can't wait to see you. I'll bring some ROH DVD's with me that GO lent me and we can watch them by the light of the fire. I've decided not to use any of my first 12 draft picks on CM Punk and if I did I would probably just trade him straight up for Carlito. Dirk Nowitzki rules!

See you soon - Father Tequila
 
27Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 22:45
lol well it's a good thing he meant a different "Greg" ... probably Species!
 
28Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 22:53
Tree is gonna be p*ssed when he sees that you posted his confidential stuff. Man this feels like junior high.
 
29Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 23:17
Speaking of Tree - still waiting on keepers from him and Zyre.
 
30Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 00:02
BTW - what a bummer for CM Punk that he and Maria split.

Still, to have been able to tap that perfect goddess of a young woman for as long as he did would probably be enough to make me die a happy man.
 
31Tree
      ID: 31959173
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 06:20
did they split? i didn't even know that. last time i saw him, which, granted, was several months ago, they were still together.
 
32Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 09:04
Got all the keepers. Tabulating...
 
33Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 09:17
Did Santino steal her away? :(
 
34wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 09:18
i hope so, maybe another title run for him :)
 
35Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 10:49
The holdup was just sorting out the draft picks swaps. Farn has it all up to date and we are ready to go...

Tree - go ahead and PUNK us!!!
 
36Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 12:18
from Peter Schrager's Wednesday Buffet (mailbag) on FoxSports -- the best sports/entertainment article each and every Wednesday!

Mullets and Kinda-Sorta Mullets, an Explanation

Peter,
You mentioned the LSU safety's "kinda-sorta" mullet last week. Please explain what a kinda-sorta mullet is, and the difference between that and a real mullet.
Dave,
Yardley, Pa

Dave,
My pleasure. Barry Melrose? Real mullet. LSU safety Craig Steltz? Kinda-sorta mullet.

1990s Jaromir Jagr? Real mullet. Dirk Diggler in the '80s scenes in "Boogie Nights"? Kinda-sorta mullet.

Steve Perry of Journey in the "Separate Ways" video? Real mullet. Dan Marino when he was at Pitt? Kinda-sorta mullet.

Ravishing Rick Rude? Real mullet.

You get the point. If it dangles an inch or more above the shoulders and an inch or more below the ears, it's a kinda-sorta. That's the good kind. Anything more is a full-blown mullet. That's the bad kind. You need to work hard to maintain the former. The latter is just plain lazy. For a visual breakdown -- here's Steltz and here's Melrose. Hope that clears things up.

So, there you go. No more gray areas. No more looming questions. And hopefully, no more grown men in face paint.
 
37Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 12:19
Thanks to Farn and GO for the legwork in setting up the draft. Farn, watch those late nights, bro. You're seeing things! ;-)

Yeah Tree, the link on whatever site I read about Punk/Maria is now off the front page and I'm too lazy too look further. But yes Maria was 'quoted' as saying that they had gone their separate ways a month or so ago. Poor guy.
 
38Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 14:03
i've been in a meeting since 9:30 this morning. i'll pick now, but then need time to see who was even kept! LOL
 
39Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 14:08
I can't believe Punk in just over a year has gone from ROH to the leading scorer and #1.01 pick of our entire league. Its incredible. And a lot of things had to occur for it to happen, but he was left standing when all the dust (injuries, death, suspensions) settled.
 
40Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 14:18
For those looking to add some immediate depth this season - I am interested in making the following trade.

Carlito
2.18 pick in the current draft
4th Round Pick NEXT season
for
Lowest 2 draft picks this season
1st Round Pick NEXT season

Thats two holes you could fill in immediately, and when you think about it, with that kind of depth and a decent season, your pick will be at worst in the 5-10 range and not that valuable. Lets negotiate!
 
41Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:38
does Zyre know we are underway? Anybody have a way to contact him?

Normally I wouldn't care but I thought I recalled Tree saying he would be gone starting Thursday evening.
 
42Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 20:56
I didn't have Zyre's email, so I emailed Rude at his non-work addy. I know Rude has Zyre's addy.

I contacted Bobo too to say he would be 2nd up....but he said he was unlikely to have access until tomorrow but might call Tree to give him his pick.
 
43 Zyre
      ID: 7923819
      Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 21:05
Sorry guys, I emailed Rude from work but all I had was his work email and the slacker doesn't apparently read it when he is on vaca.
 
44Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:03
He read the email above that Tree sent him and the two went on the hot date Tree originally intended for "greg"

Tree - my co-worker is going to Vegas this weekend. Should I tell her to go to the ROH show? she's like a middle-aged soccer mom and doesn't like sports though... lol.. Maybe get her a backstage pass and let her meet The Necro Butcher?
 
45 Bobo
      ID: 57944912
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:22
Kevin Thorn is on the trading block...if you have interest in him, I would be looking for 4th round pick.

Also, who should a send a queue to if I will be away from a computer for a while?

Tom
 
46 wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:23
I will be around all day, although I will not have access much this evening.
 
47Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:27
hope this guy has a job in a few weeks! lol...
Trade
GO acquires Kevin Thorn
Bobo acquires 4.03 pick
 
48 Bobo
      ID: 57944912
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:33
Trade Confirmed with GO
 
49wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:36
Bobo,
I just wonder why you kept Thorn? His points might have cost you the 2nd overall pick.
 
50 Bobo
      ID: 57944912
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:36
wiggs...

good question, but in hindsight, it wouldn't have mattered as I would've ended up with Jeff Hardy and now I can hopefully get a late round steal.
 
51Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:39
is it me, or is this seeming like one of the weakest first rounds in quite some time?
 
52Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:53
Its all the injuries. People were able to keep the HHH, HBK, Edge, Lashley, Cena's of the world.
 
53Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 16:15
With VKM back on the Rude Ravishers, I think I should be able to (like how he screws people with handicap matches) be able to take away one wrestler's scoring, from another team, for that week.

*Does Rude Dance*
 
54Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 16:47
You need to practice your VKM "strut" as an added bonus to your Rude dance. Start by shoving a broomstick up your ass and walking down a ramp. hahahahahaha

It's going to be hilarious having my 4 draft picks be the quality of waiver wire pickups! I wish I had been around to take Bobo up on his Thorn offer.
 
55Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 18:04
I had the 5th pick and didn't want anybody. Unprecedented.
 
56Tree
      ID: 38731322
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 20:09
i just picked the wrong damned year to stockpile early picks.

any other year, my team would be filled with guys named edge or cena or batista....ugh...
 
57Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 20:11
Tree, do you know how to reach Bobo?
 
58Tree
      ID: 209481818
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 20:49
i can try and text him...
 
59Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 23:09
Got in a bit ago and was up in RIHC. Will pick in a couple minutes.
 
60 Bobo
      ID: 57944912
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 11:44
can anyone contact Goatlocker?
 
61 Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 11:57
i emailed him

send someone a 2 person que and you are covered
 
62GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 12:22
Sorry about that, got busy at work.
Both of my picks are done.

Cliff
 
63wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 15:04
my draft is done. If anyone needs to send a queue feel free.
 
64Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 16:25
I have Bobo's pick and Zyre is aware he is up soon. I then have a couple picks here myself.

If everyone checked in the next few hours we could finish this and not have to worry about it over the weekend.

And if you can't, just send Wiggs a que.
 
65Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 16:29
and i am leaving work - so Gmail for the weekend folks
 
66GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 16:30
If You're not gone, Melina was a Keeper of Farn's
 
67Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 17:07
We need to back up a little, I messed up picking Melina and Noble is a keeper on Zyre's team. So GL if you want to go ahead and pick then I will advise my pick... unless we have to wait till the end of the round now or something?
 
68Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 18:07
Just backtrack to 3.07 pick and do the last 3 over. I don't really see the need for penalty, first round maybe, but this late it doesn't really matter anyway lol...
 
69Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 18:29
Agreed. Pick up where the thread leaves off.
 
70Greg Rude
      ID: 338281513
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 18:31
If I don't see GL draft before you do, GO, you can still use my 2 person queue after Melina.
 
71GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 19:23
Ugh, give me a few minutes.
Sorry about that.

Cliff
 
72GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 19:29
OK, I repicked for 3.07
Rude is up

Cliff
 
73Species
      ID: 43971910
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 20:15
Queue for 4.01 to GO, Farn (yahoo acct) and Rude (yahoo acct).
 
74GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 21:01
Who can take a queue.
I will be out for the evening.
Meeting Species of all things.

Cliff
 
75GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 21:13
Queue sent to Wiggs

Otherwise I'll check when I get home or first thing in the morning.

Cliff
 
76Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Oct 19, 2007, 21:48
I'm here, about to pick.
 
77GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Oct 20, 2007, 14:45
Has anybody still got a queue for species

Cliff
 
78Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Oct 20, 2007, 19:16
I have a que but its specifically says 4.01 so I don't think he wants to use that for 4.06 neccessarily... plenty of time tomorrow to finish, so no worries I guess.

Cliff if you aren't going to be around - send me two names for your last pick and I'll take care of it.
 
79GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Oct 20, 2007, 20:05
Yeh, I'll do that.
Wiggs still has a queue with 6 names on it.
I should be around though.

Species should be back at his brothers before too late from the UCLA - Cal game.

Let's see if he picks shortly.

Cliff
 
80GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 12:02
Sorry about that.
Guess I needed to go back to the master list and figure out the Harry was Harry Smith.

Nattie works just fine.

Cliff
 
81Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 18:27
am I the only one who thinks this season has the potential to be one of the most competitive in a long time? It seems like a number of teams all have potential big scorers and helpful role players.
 
82Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 18:30
Wide open... I'd say.
 
83Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 19:28
Agreed
 
84Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 19:50
At the risk of sounding out of the rumor loop, Rude, why did you draft Martel?
 
85Greg Rude
      ID: 41982016
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 20:04
We want The Model in Team Rude to teach some of the up and coming talent how to be an effective heel.

Mr McMahon was first acquired to fulfill that role, but it was quickly realized he is more interested in counting his riches and wooing the women of the company with his huge grapefruits.

Team Rude is putting the league on notice and now has that "Arrogance" aroma.
 
86Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 21:13
My first planned pickup is Tito Santana to counter that move...
 
87Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 21:42
And the Macho Man is waiting in the wings.

"Chico Santana......yeah!"
 
88Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Mon, Oct 22, 2007, 09:17
I'm waiting to hear about Tree's experience at Wreslefest this weekend. The ROH show was solid, but supposedly everything at the event on the days prior to that Sunday night show was crazy... people no-showing (Nash/Hall, Angle etc), Lex Luger winding up in a hospital, the promoters checks bouncing for all the talent invited, people walking out...

I expect Tree was in the middle of everything and give us a little behind the scenes of what was going on. Sounds crazy.
 
89Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Oct 22, 2007, 09:48
I have been reading about this type of thing a little lately. These conventions where the guys running it either aren't making enough to cover cost or they are just stiffing the wrestlers. Either way its a bad trend and could severely impact the future of these things.
 
90Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 11:09
a bit more from 411

Your News: Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Nick Dinsmore all pulled out of the Cow Palace convention over the weekend. Lex Luger missed the event due to the nerve impingement mentioned above (temporary paralysis).

Some of the performers scheduled are at the Cow Palace signing. A number of booked wrestlers, however, including The Steiner's and Brian Knobs, have staged something of a sit-in at the lobby of the hotel where they were booked, waiting to be paid. From what I understand, they have been waiting since 8 AM Pacific for the wife of the promoter to arrive with their pay as they've been told they would be paid half of their money via cash and half via check. The wrestlers waiting were originally told that the bank was "three hours away", which was followed by a story that the wife was "pulled over while driving back", and later that there was traffic returning to San Francisco.

My Views: This show was a disaster, and the sad thing that people thought it would be before it went down. First of all there was the fact that they had the balls to try and run the FN Cow Palace! The place holds roughly 14,000 for wrestling, they were never going to fill that. That is a red flag right there. Secondly there was not a lot of advertising. A week before the show people booked on it were wondering if it was still happening. That is never good. With these issues, Angle "called off sick," which I believe because through TNA he was paid in full and had his plane ticket. Nash, Hall and Dinsmore basically got smart because they didn't receive their tickets or pre-pay that was agreed too. Now, if you are stupid enough to try and stiff Scott Steiner, then you're an idiot. Piper was paid half in cash and then got a check, which when he tried to cash it they said it was RUBBER! Police were sent to the deadbeat promoter's house in order to try and get the money fro the guys. There was also an altercation between Leyland Chapman's Boxing Coach and Don Frye, where Frye got sucker punched by the man. This convention will go down as one of the craziest ever, and another mark in the record books for shi--y promoters.
 
91Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 14:57
i will give you guys a bit more of an update when i recover. i took the red eye back from SanFran this morning, so i'm beat.

my favorite ROH moment was prior to the Vegas show. we had put some signs outside in an effort to draw a few more people into the show, and this slightly hefty, 40 something year old dude with greased back hair and an italian suit walks in and says "i wanna see this Negro Butcher guy...is he white or black?"

(that is not a typo)...
 
92Greg Rude
      ID: 2110492322
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 18:44
Just an FYI, I will be at the ECW show tues night, live, in Roanoke Va. (and obviously the taped SD show for Friday)

I'll try to bring a 'R W F' sign

*Does Rude Dance*
 
93Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 19:23
Yesssss. That would be cool if it got air time.
 
94GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 20:15
That would be great if it got air time.

Cliff