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Subject: RWF - Season XII Preseason/Draft setup/discussion

  Posted by: Species - Dude [07724916] Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:17
Okay boys, here are the official Season XII keepers and resulting draft order.
Player Keepers Finish Total Draft position
Great One 10 9 19 1 GO 983
GoatLocker 8 10 18 2 wiggs 1072
wiggs 9 6 15 3 Goat 1127
Tree 7 7 14 4 Tree 1537
Bobo 5 8 13 5 Rude 1853
Rude 6 5 11 6 Bobo 1952
Farn 4 3 7 7 Farn 2516
Mike D 2 4 6 8 Zyre 2651
Zyre 3 2 5 9 Mike D 2787
Species 1 1 2 10 Species 3211
Species Zyre
Batista 1171 Undertaker 510
Ricky Ortiz 162 Jeff Hardy 832
Kane 993 Santino Marella 649
Finlay 885 MVP 660
Total 3211 2651
Farn GO
Edge 865 Evan Bourne 422
Big Show 618 Umaga 296
Carlito 318 Shad Gaspard 265
Beth Phoenix 715 Gregory Helms 0
2516 983
Rude Mike D
John Cena 871 R-Truth 133
Rey Mysterio 239 Mike Mizanin 973
Mike Knox 432 Chris Jericho 993
William Regal 311 Cody Rhodes 688
1853 2787
GoatLocker wiggs
Bam Neely 427 Lance Cade 300
Deuce Shade 96 Primo Colon 154
Curt Hawkins 496 Ted Dibiase 523
Candice Michelle 108 Jack Swagger 95
1127 1072
Tree Bobo
Shawn Michaels 471 Ken Kennedy 347
The Brian Kendrick 436 JTG 292
Randy Orton 494 Natalya Neidhart 451
Manu 136 Katie Burchill 262
1537 1352
wiggs' sandbagging keepers result in the largest leap up the draft board, snagging a coveted 3rd position in the first round (assuming he even owns his own pick! lol), while Bobo gets the shaft, dropping from what could have been a 3rd overall pick to 5th.
 
1Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:33 		not sure how Wiggs sandbagged. He asked me for advice and we agreed on all 4 of the guys he kept. I'd be curious to see who would have kept somebody but those 4.

Anyway, I'll start working on a grid now. A fast look shows Rude having the #1 pick (GO's) and then GO (Goatlocker's), and #3 would be Goatlocker (wigg's). If those guys are ready before I get the chart up just post here and I'll add them in.
 
2Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:36 		Oh just giving wiggs crap about it. I don't disagree....just makes for better copy ;-)
 
3Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:51
1.01 Rude 2.01 Rude 3.01 wiggs 4.01 Zyre
1.02 Great One 2.02 Bobo 3.02 Bobo 4.02 Goatlocker
1.03 Goatlocker 2.03 Mike D 3.03 Rude 4.03 Zyre
1.04 Tree 2.04 Tree 3.04 Tree 4.04 Species
1.05 Great One 2.05 Bobo 3.05 Bobo 4.05 Farn
1.06 Rude 2.06 Great One 3.06 Mike D 4.06 Species
1.07 Goatlocker 2.07 Mike D 3.07 Farn 4.07 Farn
1.08 Rude 2.08 Mike D 3.08 Great One 4.08 Farn
1.09 Wiggs 2.09 wiggs 3.09 Zyre 4.09 Zyre
1.10 Goatlocker 2.10 Tree 3.10 Species 4.10 Species
 
4Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:52 		Wiggs receives
GO's Season 12 1st rounder (GO's lowest 1st rounder at time of draft)
Waiver swap sometime during season 12


GO receives
Wiggs Season 12 lowest pick probably a 3rd rounder

(Purple)

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Rude receives GO's 2nd lowest 1st round pick at time of draft for Season 12

Go receives Rude's lowest 2nd round pick for Season 12

(Yellow)

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This trade option was ignored

The following trade right: If CM Punk is kept by Species for Season 12, Great One retains the right - after keepers are announced - to trade any first round pick, no lower than 3rd overall, to Species in exchange for CM Punk.

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Rude will now have the rights to Wiggs Season 12 lowest pick

(Royal Blue)

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GO and Rude probably need to address this one. Does this void the trade highlighted in yellow above?

GO also reacquires rights to his 2nd lowest 1st round pick at time of draft for Season 12

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GO, Rude, and Tree need to clarify this one for me

GO owns - Tree's lowest Season 12 pick at time of draft
Tree owns - Rude's lowest Season 12 2nd Round pick via GO

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5Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:52 		A temporary chart appears in Post 3. It includes trades that I could easily adjust.

In post 4 the last 2 pieces just need to be clarified by a few owners before I can post a full chart in a new thread.
 
7Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:04 		Punk trade option is ignored, doesn't apply.

Yes, I got my 3rd 1st rounder back from Rude for Chavo. I'm gonna have to do all the clauses too and see what I come up with. But I can't figure out who that leaves short a pick for some reason.

 
8Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:12 		Looks right to me, who is short a pick ? Here is my last trade entry...


TRADE
Rude acquires...
Chavo
Rude will now have the rights to Wiggs Season 12 lowest pick

GO acquires..
Victoria
GO also reacquires rights to his 2nd lowest 1st round pick at time of draft for Season 12

Season 12 Draft Picks:
Great One 1st
Mike D 1st
Rude's 2nd
Great One's 2nd

Rude owns Wiggs Season 12 lowest pick.

Go owns Rude's lowest 2nd round pick for Season 12

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That leaves me with 4.
 
9Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:14 		Rude receives GO's 2nd lowest 1st round pick at time of draft for Season 12

Go receives Rude's lowest 2nd round pick for Season 12

(Yellow)

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GO and Rude probably need to address this one. Does this void the trade highlighted in yellow above?

GO also reacquires rights to his 2nd lowest 1st round pick at time of draft for Season 12

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Does not void it. Was a separate trade from the above yellow trade. I took what I got from him in the yellow trade and traded it back to him for something else. So GO owned both (what was in yellow) at that point ... until he traded something to tree ... my head is spinning.

 
10Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:17 		I've confirmed based on the above that the last part is essentially a 3 way trade... I go up to 1.06, Tree gets 2.06 (which I temporarily had from Rude) and I get whatever Tree's worst pick was.
 
11Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:18 		I know that I don't have the 1.06 Pick, belongs to G.O. unless he traded it to someone else.

I should be 1.1, 1.8
 
12Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:19 		well Tree's worst pick is 3.04

So....

GO has 1.06, Tree has 2.06, and GO has 3.04? Sound right?

If so I'll open a new thread.
 
13Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:22 		Wiggs is short the pick, thats what I'm trying to figure out.
 
14Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:23 		Thats the answer -- Wiggs and myself have 3.04 and 3.08 -- but trying to figure out which should be which based on timing and "lowest" etc.
 
16Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:24 		K. When you sort that out you let me know what adjustments to make to my pretty chart. :)
 
17Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:27 		Just give me 3.08, its my fault its such a mess anyway lol...
 
18Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:29 		ahh diplomacy.
 
19Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:29 		yeah, cause I'm not lost.

Just tell me what is different than the preliminary chart I posted above. :)
 
20Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:30 		Part of the confusion is that 1.06 and 3.03 are the opposite ends of that trade. Those should both be royal blue.
 
21Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:31 		5 minutes I'll have all changes written out.
 
22Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:36 		I'm sucha wheeler and dealer that I came out with 5 picks... just give me 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5... LETS GO!
 
23Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:37 		1.06 = Great One (royal blue)Wiggs worst pick was actually "Mike D's 3rd" aka 3.08 -- so that is Rude's 3.08 (change to royal blue)

2.06 = Tree (yellow) (Rudes lowest 2nd)3.04 = GO (yellow) ("Trees lowest pick at time")

I think thats it, so do that and make sure all the parties involved have 4 picks.

 
24Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:41 		GO, I just sent you a gmail. Let me know if that charts right before I post it.
 
25Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:41 		What happened to diplomacy? bastard.
 
26Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 18:59 		Ok, we are waiting to confirm with wiggs that his picks are 1.09, 2.09, 3.01, and 3.03. I've texted him to see where he's at.

That said, I can confirm that this is how the draft opens.

1. Rude
2. GO
3. Goat
4. Tree


So, if you guys want to make those picks in here feel free and I'll copy them over when we make wiggs picks official.
 
27Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:09 		With the 1st pick, Team Rude selects:



1.01 TRIPLE H
 
28Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:22 		1.02 Matt Hardy
 
29Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:22 		for Cliff 1.03 CM Punk
 
30Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:32 		I'd trade down from 1.06 into the second round for the reverse in Season 13.
 
31Tree
      ID: 20931818
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:33 		damnit. i made a post that apparently isn't here. i wanted to move into the top 3.

bah.

i gotta do some research. so NOT ready to draft.

and i think we should have a separate thread for the draft. gonna get too confusing in here.
 
32Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:39 		Tree, as I noted in post #26, we are just waiting for wiggs to get home (should be an hour) and confirm his picks before we open up an official thread.


GO - after Tree picks I'd say we need to pause and wait for wiggs. The previous picks don't effect wiggs but yours could so let's be safe and wait for him.
 
33Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 19:58 		Fine with me, I am looking to trading down from these picks this draft or for a 1st in Season 13 anyway. Email me if you want to move up folks!

I'll check in later tonight after a movie, but other than that, lets "officially" start tomorrow morning. We'll easily finish Thursday-Friday.

 
34Tree
      ID: 20931818
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 20:07 		1.04 Vladimir Kozlov
 
35wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 21:07 		those picks seem fine for me. Its pretty crazy :)
 
36Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 21:12 		LOL. Ok, new thread coming up in just a minute.
 
37wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 21:15 		i was hoping to get kozlov, thought i had a chance too.
 
38Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 21:18 		Ok, new thread open. Let's keep all discussion in here.

GO is on the clock with 2 picks.
 
39Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 22:12 		1.05 sent to Rude, details shortly
 
40Greg Rude
      ID: 37931419
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 22:14 		To Rude:
GO's 1.05 pick
Bobo's Season 13 3rd round pick

To GO:
Rude's 2.01 pick
GO's Season 13 1st round pick
 
41Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 22:27 		Sorry Rude, I'm sure you were targeting Chavo... I cracked up that he was next on Goats que.
 
42 wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 08:52 		I will be at my computer all day today, I have about 10 hours of work to do for my masters classes today so if anyone needs to leave a queue feel free to send it my way.
 
43Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 08:58 		I will have 2.01 shortly... also around all day I expect.
 
44Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 09:02 		Anybody want to trade up to this spot? I'd take a 3rd for 2nd round swap next season or something like that...
 
45Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 09:21 		Mike D gets
2.01
3.04

GO gets
2.07
2.08
 
46Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 09:24 		The latest addition to my roster is Mickie James, a girl who does for cleavage what Newton did for gravity.
 
47Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 10:41 		GO or Mike D, I assume that trade is all Season 12 picks?
 
48Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 10:46 		nevermind, of course they are.
 
49Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 10:54 		Farn, you don't miss a trick brutha. ;)

Boboooooooooooooo!

Sending a big queue to GO.........
 
50Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:07 		sweet Farn, I always hate figuring out all those dates! lol..

I would trade down 2.07 to any 3rd round pick for a 3rd for 2nd rounder in next season. Anyone want to jump up and get one of the last decent scorers?

 
51Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:07 		you can send me a queue as well. I am here all day and have no picks til half the managers are done. :)

Mike D is on the clock for one pick.
 
52Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:33 		Great job everyone.....we are kicking ass.

Thanks to Farn's girl for being gone - he has more energy than ever! ;-)
 
53Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:41 		And to think, I could have had "The Great" Khali back.......lol, thanks Bobo!
 
54Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:41 		Yeah, I haven't felt so alive in....hmm... I think we just had our 3 year anniversary....
 
55Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:47 		I remember those days. Vaguely. ;)
 
56Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 11:50 		Well you were crazy enough to have kids. I am surprised you can remember anything.
 
57Tree
      ID: 14942910
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 12:02 		will pick in a few guys...
 
58Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 12:22 		Wow. Every single person making the next 10 or so picks is here. We could fly all the way to my pick in round 3.

Could we have our first less than 24hrs draft?
 
59Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 12:48 		Working on a deal here, we are both present to pick once its hammered out.
 
60Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 13:05 		I work hard for the money... gotta get creative folks, instead of my pick, Bobo thought to trade a pick for a player. Brilliant!

TRADE
Shad
Rude's Season 13 3rd (via GO)

3.05
Bobo's Season 13 2nd Round Pick
 
61Great One
      ID: 497221412
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 13:06 		now I will pick 2.07 and 2.08 and he'll confirm that part after lunch
 
62Bobo
      ID: 41346228
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 13:40 		trade confirmed with GO
 
63Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:25 		Man this is a loooooooooooooong wait to 3.10!
 
64Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:28 		LOL. Yeah, I've learned my lesson. I have all my own picks in all future drafts. Gonna see how long I can hold them before I trade them away and draft at the bottom again.
 
65Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:31 		All kinds of scrubs being picked. ;)
 
66Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:32 		yeah, thats right. Sinn Bowdee folks. Sin Bowdee.
 
67Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:45 		That's who I wanted.

WTF???
 
68Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:50 		Are you being sarcastic? I was wondering if anyone else had any clue about this guy.
 
69Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:53 		Yes, thus the "WTF"?

Sorry Farn. I needed a little boogey on my squad.
 
70Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:55 		I need a little anything on my sad squad.
 
71Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:55 		Pass the worms.
 
72Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 14:58 		Geesh... well I guess I traded down just enough. Was gonna push it and trade down to the 4th round and hope nobody knew who he was yet.
 
73Greg Rude
      ID: 18922917
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 18:33 		lol Species, my draft is now done.
 
74Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 18:34 		I have a queue for Goat (via GO) so if Zyre is here we can finish this draft very fast.
 
75wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 19:06 		species, my draft finished before yours started, that seems weird
 
76Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 19:11 		LOL......yeah, having 4 out of the last 11 picks is not appealing.

But Gail Kim is. Woo baby. Please come back.......and FAST!
 
77Greg Rude
      ID: 18922917
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 19:27 		*RKO's species*

It's on the for the season, "champ"


*Does Rude Dance* (c)
 
78Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 19:28 		Am I the only one looking forward to the Macho Man predictions for Season 12?
 
79Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 09, 2008, 21:17 		Yes.

LMAO!
 
80Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 08:48 		- Umaga returned to the ring at Thursday's FCW TV taping.

Excellent timing sir!

 
81Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 11:14 		Species, whenever you make your pick don't go anywhere. We can finish the draft in 15 mins if Zyre is around.
 
82Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 11:19 		I'm here.
 
83Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 11:35 		Damn. Was gonna take Smith. Oops.

I've emailed Zyre.
 
84Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 11:40 		Well I was gonna take Nicole so I don't feel bad. :)
 
85Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 17:28 		Dammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn Rude is loaded!
 
86Greg Rude
      ID: 3919107
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 17:34
 
87Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 17:39 		Dolph Ziggler has been suspended for a violation of the WWE wellness policy.

He sure looked ripped while introducing himself!
 
88Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 17:55 		LOL. I swear these guys are mental midgets. They get a big break and then end up suspended (hello Jeff Hardy, Randy Orton, Umaga, etc).
 
89wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Oct 10, 2008, 18:07 		well if dolph gets a Jeff Hardy, RKO or Umaga push he will outscore alot of guys without the 30 days :)
 
90Macho Man R Savage
      ID: 3919107
      Sat, Oct 11, 2008, 11:59 		Mean Gene: I'm here with the Macho Man Randy Savage for another exciting RWF season preview. Here he comes, the Macho Man himself.

Macho Man:
I'm here, YEAH! I'm looking right at you in the video scope. I'm staaaaring right at ya. ARE YOU READY??? I thought you were!

Why don't we do this, because i'm teeelliing you this is how we DO IT! We'll review the teeeaaams in the order that the finished in Season 11. DIG IT!

First up, the champ, the fouuuuuur time RWF champion Species. Guess what! He's gonna take a fall, YEAH, he's gonna take a hurtin! He's gonna go to the top rope, and jump off ... but NOBODY WILL BE HOME! Species will feel good with Batista and Kaaaaane standing behind him but it's not gonna be enough! His 5th and 6th regular scorers are gonna be a swinging gate! Not to fear, not to fear ... no no no, I call this guy the KING OF WAIVERS! YEAH! He'll pick some nice oranges from the Florida orange tree. You know what i'm telling you Mean Gene? UH HUH !

Next in the video scope is Team Zyre! What does that meeaaaan anyway, the name "Zyre" ... sounds like some kinds Spaceman YEAH!

Mean Gene: The spaceman Zyre??

Macho Man:
THATS RIGHT! ALL HAIL SPACEMAN ZYRE! The brightest star of all the shining stars! This team has a bunch of guys that can easily take up TV time. Always a threat! Like that Jake the Snake and his Damien ... you turn around, and he'll bite ya!! UH HUH!! People just want to see Santino and MVP ... they gravitate towards them, like a spaceman beam ray. It just looocks you right up! YEAH! He needs the dead man big time if he wants to do anything this season though. Rise, rise from the grave deadman. The spaceman calls on you!

Ok lets move on, Mean Gene, and i'm talking about the Farm team. Team Farm, YEAH!

Mean Gene: I believe that's Farn.

Macho Man:
Don't interrupt me, Mean Gene, I'm on a roll! UH HUH! This teeeeaaam won't be talked about too soon in next year's review ... you know why? Cause he's gonna sink right to the bottom! You gotta love his keepers, his carryover, from last season but after that ... I CAN'T EVEN LOOK, MEAN GENE! It's an uggggly situation. YEAH! Nooow I liked dreamer last season, but last season was last season! The 1992 Royal Rumble was in 1992! It doesn't apply anymore, Mean Gene. Just like the way that Great One dresses, you gotta move forward ... quit living in the past UH HUH ! You get to the cross section and you keep walking straight, you dont' go left or right Mean Gene ... you'll get left behind, YEAH!

Enough about that, enough about that. Team Mike D, you're in the video scope. I'm looking right at ya. I see that your shaking again, for the 8th season in a row! The old knee knockers! I tell ya what though this is going to be a formidable season 12 team, yeah you see this is like taking on the natural disasters in a handicap match. He throws lots of weight at ya but if you last long enough he's got to stop early because he's out of breath. DIG IT! Lots of potential high scorers on the cusp of greatness under Mike D. Can Miz score 1000, can Jericho score 1200, can Cody Rhodes and R Truuuuth get into the 800's? You see Mean Gene, this is the kinda production Mike D is gonna need and I just don't think he's gonna get it! You can't get blood from a turnip and you can't get ham from a hamburger. YEAH!!

Next up we have the Rude one, UH HUH! He's so rude he started making waiver moves in the RWF before he was even accepted as general manager. YEAH! He's making his move, Mean Gene, he's making his move. Here it is, he's been buying stock the last few seasons and now its TIME TO SELL! This is the cream of the crop! It rises to the top ... cream rises to the top, yeah. ADD A LITTLE SUGAR ... add a little sugar, Mean Gene and what you make is a RWF title. Let's get serious though! Whaaat he neeeeeds, yeah, what he needs is for that Cena to get back into action and then he's a lock! If that doesn't happen he's gonna find himself tangled up in Tree's branches ... if ya get my drift, UH HUH!

I'm looking in the video scope now and I see the FUTURE, YEAH! Team Wiggs has all the youuuung bad asses that trying to find their way in this business. Dibiase Jr, Jack Swagger, Kofi Kingston, Primo Colon ... IT DOESN'T STOP MEAN GENE! It just does not stop, reminds me of the Bushwackers dancing! You couldn't get them to stop either! If these guys on Wiggs team trip some of the old guys or push them down the stairs, watch out! It's their show now! YA FEEL ME???

Here's the next biggest thing in the RWF. He's coming back for a 2nd RWF title, YEAH! This team is the one to watch out for. I'm not suuuure what's going on with the team name, Yellow Carrots... WTF is right, Mean Gene... but it DOESN'T MATTER, UH HUH! Cause what i'm saying to you, iiisssss... HBK, Randy Orton, A russian on Smackdown with a huge push coming ... That's Kozlov, Mean Gene, KEEP UP! THE Brian Kendrick and a young Samoan named Manny! YEAH! Lots, lots lots of points on this team, you gotta keep them down, ya see ... yeah, you gotta put the covering over this team, and stand on them... don't budge, Mean Gene, don't budge. This team is coming up YEAH!

Allright just a feeeew more teams to talk about, Team Bobo! You're up! Investing in that Cryme Tyme huh? Yeah you think that's a good move but they don't call them Cryme Tyme for nothing ... they are gonna steal all your investment, UH HUH! You'll be left with nothing but a Dyk, and i'm not talking about Nattie, YEAH and a big Indian who doesn't know what the hell you're saying! You seeeeee Bobo it's a good thing you picked up Festus, cause you still got a lot of moving to do, YEAH!

Allright the "Great One" ... I say that lightly, Mean Gene. I pegged it, I tell ya I peggggged IT last year when I told ya to refer to him as the mediocre one. DIG IT! You can expect much of the same, Mean Gene, much of the same. He has some improvements with the ECW Champ Matt Hardy and John Morrison... but Mean Gene, Umaga needs to be a big scorer for the "Great One" ... the prooooblem iissssss, are people gonna be tired of that same yelling and screaming and incoherent Samoan babble? YEAH I THINK SO! Umaga has no flexibility, Mean Gene, He's no Mrs Mean Gene if you know what i'm saying to you, UH HUH!
Evan Bourne! Great kid ... lotsssss of points, yeah... came out of nowhere like a storm in the night. The name of the game though, Mean Gene, is 6. That's RIGHT, 6 to score, 6 to win! Great One's got 4. The numbers don't adddd up. You gotta add up in this league. 1,2 ... 6 MEAN GENE! YEAH!

Last but not least, Goatlocker. Yeeaaah, good ol' Team Goatlocker. A FLICKERING LIGHT IN THE BASEMENT ... Look for CM Punk to start to carry this sad franchise out of that basement, Mean Gene. Right on his back and shoulders, all the other guys ... Chavo, Shelton... good scorers they can walk some of the steps, uh huh. What about Candice, Bam and Curt Hawkins? Carrying material, Mean Gene, carrying material. Like I told ya before, it's a nummmmmbers game, YEAH!

Let's get onnnn with it then...

Here's my final standings and preeeedictions for Seasonnnn 12, YEAH!

1. Rude 4800
2. Tree 4700
3. Mike D 4300
4. Zyre 4200
5. Species 4000
6. Wiggs 3800
7. Farn 3600
8. Great One 3450
9. Goat Locker 3300
10. Bobo 3100


 
91Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 11, 2008, 22:34 		Nothing means nothing.......and the cream will rise to the top!

Classic post, Macho Man. One for the ages!
 
92Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 11, 2008, 22:35 		Oh, and I am the cream.....oh yeah!
 
93Great One
      ID: 10658208
      Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 18:02 		I think the Nacho Man needs to revaluate cause he's about to get jumped by The Natural Born Thrillers...
 
94Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 18:09 		Nacho Man....lol

Macho Man might want to wait for the rest of the offers for Kane and Finlay roll in
 
95Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 18:55 		You are taking offers on Kane and Finlay?

Did I forget to mention I'm taking offers on Edge?
 
96Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Mon, Oct 13, 2008, 13:05 		Conversely... I've got my S13 1st Round Pick paired with soon to debut Kilkarny/SinnBowdee or Ezekiel for a main event type.

Lets get something done for tonight!

 
97Farn @ work
      ID: 109271410
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 16:17 		for those wondering I will score Raw in an hour or so when I get home. Then we can get our first look at results vs Macho's predictions.
 
98Greg Rude
      ID: 3919107
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 18:00 		Nacho man sux!!
 
99Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 18:09 		Poor wiggs:

The following is from WWE.com:

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Lance Cade as of October 14, 2008. WWE wishes Lance the best in all future endeavors.
 
100Tree
      ID: 389391418
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 19:40 		wow...that's surprising...

oh..did i win?
 
101Great One
      ID: 56911412
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 19:50 		Don't think anyone saw that one coming, with his recent push and all. Had to make room for The Boogeyman and Johnny Knoxville I guess?!

Perhaps he was in trouble for something not yet made public.

 
102Greg Rude
      ID: 3919107
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 20:41 		Hope he goes to TNA.
 
103Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 21:06 		Wow. I'm sorry wiggs. I am the one that told you to keep him. Ugh.
 
104Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:26 		Farn with the screwjob!
 
105wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:31 		Farn, dont worry, you can GO both convinced me to keep him. I want a redraft.
 
106Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:43 		lol.....the Cade Screwjob

Mike D - get your ass to Kafenatid and take Kobe will you? You're up in RIHC.
 
107Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:46 		Yup, just did bro. Before I saw your post. You must be psychic(o).

So GO was in on it too. I knew it! Just like HBK and Vince! Those b&stards.
 
108Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:49 		Dumbass. I would've taken Amare ;-)
 
109Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 14, 2008, 22:50 		Goggle man? I had him last year. He sucks.

 
110Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:26 		Smackdown spoilers indicate a McCool title defense at Cyber Sunday.

I am offering her up for a VERY modest pick swap in Season 14. My 2nd (which is likely to be very high) + McCool for your 1st --- which if you are in contention is likely to be low. It's low risk! Hurry!
 
111Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:28 		Don't be offering up my players. You ain't my attorney brutha.
 
112Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:28 		LOL.......damn! Old habit! lmao
 
113Great One
      ID: 2936213
      Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:47 		Cody Rhodes can be had for a Season 14 pick swap with me as well!

Also like to send a Thank You card to my man Zeke... for proving me right and increasing his value tremendously starting this Friday night.