| Posted by: Farn
- Leader [451044109] Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:37
Let's get a fresh thread going with all kinds of chatter.
I have received a few offers for Edge. I'm still considering them. I may wait a couple of weeks and see if someone else emerges as a contender who needs a #1. |
| 1 | Great One
ID: 2936213 Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:55
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Nacho Man sucks... I'm taking him out!
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| 3 | Great One
ID: 389281515 Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 09:20
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Reading JR's comments, sounds like Cade's release had something to do with his behavior and what he may have been involved in. One incident mentioned was that he had a seizure on a plane and it was determined it was not medically related.
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| 4 | Tree
ID: 13714198 Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 09:29
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Shockmaster, Ding Dongs, and David Arquette in the top 10?
those are the things that MAKE wrestling.
anyone who has heard about how Arquette carried himself as champ has to have utmost respect for the guy. never mind the fact he didn't even want to win the title because he felt it was disrespectful to all the "real" wrestlers, he did the right thing and paid for the bar tab the night he won the title, as per tradition.
other annoying things of note on that list: Loch Ness Monster - 8) THE LOCH NESS MONSTER Wrestling legend Haystacks Callhoun..as ...well...the evil sea monster...pretty sure Calhoun was long dead by then. i can't remember the name of the guy who had this gimmick, but he was legit irish or scottish.
THE DESPERADOS Black Bart, Deadeye Dick, and Dutch Mantel as a gang of cowboys in search of Stan Hansen.
why was this bad? with the exception of the West Texas Rednecks (Rap is crap!) cowboy gimmicks rock!
ok. i lost patience with the rest of the list. lol
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| 5 | Zyre
ID: 308171512 Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 19:52
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Hey Species, I dropped you another reply in Gmail.
Z
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| 6 | Great One
ID: 10658208 Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 11:00
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I opened a fake Matt Hardy Myspace account, hopefully it results in a few more votes. Thats devotion to the RWF! from Rajah - ECW Champion Matt Hardy sent out a bulletin on his MySpace account talking about who he'd like to wrestle at Cyber Sunday. Hardy wrote: "I have never wrestled Evan Bourne, but I would love to, no doubt! He is one of the challengers that you can vote in to face me at Cyber Sunday for the ECW Title.. I can definitely see this match being a non-stop adrenaline rush-a true show stealer. If you guys and gals want to see this match as bad as I wanna have it, make it happen with your text votes! The other option are Finlay or Mark Henry. It is truly up to the WWE fans what goes down that night-make your vote count!"
-- SmackDown wrestler MVP is on a huge losing streak. He hasn't won a match on television in nearly two months -- the SmackDown after SummerSlam in a win via count out over Festus. He's lost nine consecutive matches, including nine clean pinfall losses. He's also lost on eight consecutive editions of Friday Night SmackDown. Here is his loss report:
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| 7 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Oct 19, 2008, 11:06
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I'm currently scoring Smackdown. I'll have it posted soon.
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| 8 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 11:35
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Nice move by both parties. Zyre making a push towards that title again. No freebie for Rude this season.
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| 9 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 11:40
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My hope is that Zyre, without 1st and 2nd rounders again in Season 13, will have a poor season next year and make his pick a top 5 pick.
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| 10 | Great One
ID: 389281515 Mon, Oct 20, 2008, 12:27
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I'm gonna have some extra depth here shortly with returning or debuting Helms, Umaga and Kizarny. Want to look to package 2-3 of these guys for one big scorer. Perhaps packaged with a pick as well.
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| 11 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 12:56
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Bit of a longshot but does anyone have connections that could get me a pair of tickets to the PPV here in Phx tomorrow? Its not really worth the cost of a WWE PPV ticket but if someone has an in that could set me up I'd go.
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| 12 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 15:49
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No in, but in comparing ticketmaster to some of the private sellers, there's a pretty good deal at coasttocoasttickets----
2 tickets each in section 101, either in row 17 or 19, at $51 apiece.
Good compared to what ticketmaster has left etc.. There are cheaper ones, and more expensive ones (including floor---$200 a pop, 35th row)----but for overall value this looked the best to me.
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| 13 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 19:54
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Ouch.
EVAN BOURNE OUT FOR FOUR MONTHS - Although on the losing side of both matches, ECW's Evan Bourne had two very good outings this past weekend with a match for the ECW title against Matt Hardy on Cyber Sunday and one against Rey Mysterio on RAW the following night. However all the momentum he has built over the past weeks has come to a stop as Bourne torn his ligaments in his ankle during the six man tag team match on ECW television on Tuesday and is scheduled to be out of action for around four months. The 25 year old made his WWE debut in June of this year.
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| 14 | Bobo
ID: 41346228 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 13:28
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Kenny Dykstra, Elijah Burke and Lena Yada all wished the best in their future endeavors today by WWE...
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| 15 | Tree
ID: 121035316 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 15:39
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this on the heels of london and palumbo being released...wow...
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| 16 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 15:51
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making room for christian :)
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| 17 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 15:52
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And Gail Kim :)
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| 18 | Great One
ID: 42102515 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 16:05
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I assume we can welcome London back to ROH?
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| 19 | Tree
ID: 121035316 Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 17:32
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Wiggs - that might be some major prognastication going on right there.
GO - i wouldn't assume it. i'm hearing rumours that he's done.
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| 20 | Great One
ID: 3110581210 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 11:58
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Species was right! 411- As soon as Gail Kim signed her WWE contract, Lena Yada was finished with the company. Both Vince and Stephanie felt there was no reason to have Yada on the roster since she and Kim "looked too much alike."
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| 21 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:05
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I would love for wiggs to be right. I have always been a huge Christian mark. How sweet would it be to have his return coincide with Edge's return "from hell". It would reek of total awesomeness!!
I've also always had a huge thing for Gail. I dig asians.
PS - wiggs and Farn - not to be gay, but I have Myspace friend requests out to you. I need some guys on there so all of the chicks I am trolling don't see nothing but women on my page ;-)
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| 22 | Tree
ID: 121035316 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:10
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Species - join facebook.
if the spoilers are indication, Christian is done with TNA, barring a last minute contract "offer he can't refuse."
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| 23 | Farn@work
ID: 1310291011 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:25
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This is great. Weeks keep going by with no sign of Edge. I'm not even going to have to trade him. He'll end up not being my high scorer as Show ends up in this program with Taker and racks up lots of points before Edge ever appears. My team is looking solid long term.
Maybe I'll get lucky and be able to trade Show down the line and still have a scorer higher than Edge.
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| 24 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 13:21
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I just hope Christian doesnt return until late this season so I can have him next year. I will be looking to package a number 1 and number 2 pick together for a better number 1. just keep that in mind for the future.
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| 25 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Nov 23, 2008, 09:51
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If it wasn't on WWE.com I wouldn't believe it. I mean my god....
"Jeff Hardy was found unconscious in a stairwell at his hotel in Boston today, and was rushed to the nearest emergency room."
I'll assume its not a storyline because that would be a bit sad.
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| 26 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Nov 24, 2008, 17:20
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FYI for Week 8 lineups:
TWO SMACKDOWN! TAPINGS THIS WEEK - There are some changes to television tapings this week as ECW TV will be taped prior to Monday Night RAW in Providence, RI., while Smackdown! tomorrow tapes two weeks worth of shows in Albany, NY. There will be more of these type of tapings in the future which is a way to cut costs by taping two shows in one night. The major reason for this week's double taping is that a select few of the WWE crew will be traveling to Iraq after next Monday's RAW to tape the Tribute to the Troops Christmas show.
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| 27 | Greg Rude
ID: 81017224 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 15:41
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Happy Thanksgiving RWF !
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| 28 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 17:05
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Happy Thanksgiving!
I am thankful for the FOUR RWF titles on my mantle! ;-) Biiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhcccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss
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| 29 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 13:58
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Do we have a chart with season 13 picks? If not dont worry about it, just wondering.
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| 30 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 14:06
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| | | | Season 13 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Farn | Species | Mike D | Wiggs | Great One | Tree | Rude | Zyre | Goatlocker | Bobo | | | | | | | | | | | Farn's 1st | Mike D 4th | Great One 3rd | Mike D 1st | Rude 3rd | Tree 1st | Great One 4th | Wiggs 3rd | Goatlocker 1st | Bobo 1st | Farn's 2nd | Bobo 4th | Mike D 2nd | Rude 1st | Bobo 3rd | Tree 2nd | Species 4th | Wiggs 4th | Goatlocker 2nd | Bobo 2nd | Farn's 3rd | Species 3rd | Mike D 3rd | Zyre 1st | Species 1st | Species 2nd | Great One 1st | Zyre 3rd | Goatlocker 3rd | Great One 2nd | Farn's 4th | Rude 2nd | Wiggs 2nd | Zyre 2nd | Tree 3rd | Tree 4th | Rude 4th | Zyre 4th | Goatlocker 4th | Wiggs 1st | | | | | | | | | | |
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| 31 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 14:06
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that one is accurate as of October 28th
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| 32 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 14:22
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Not sure if that would be incorporated, but of the trades during the draft (and post 1 of the transactions thread) I should have Bobo's 2nd round pick and he should have Rude's 3rd (from me).
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| 33 | Greg Rude
ID: 2710402917 Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 18:17
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...and there are some stipulations to add to this too. I'm sure he didn't want to delve into that yet.
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| 34 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 13:33
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Dibiase, Jr has been missing partly due to honeymoon... but now he got the lead role in Marine 2 movie. So thats great and all... and he'll surely get a HUGE push when he returns, but I can't wait around on him much longer. Anybody interested in swapping? Send me a few names to consider.
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| 35 | Tree
ID: 1311551521 Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 08:15
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oh oh, trouble in paradise:
World Wrestling Entertainment's plans for Wrestlemania were thrown out the window with word that Dave Batista, who was in the running for the Raw side of the Mania main event, has gone down to a torn hamstring.
Batista is expected to miss several months and will be undergoing surgery shortly, according to several sources within the company. The Randy Orton punt kick to the head last week was the storyline reason for Batista's disappearance from the company.
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| 36 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Tue, Dec 23, 2008, 09:08
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He'll make a great keeper, who wants him?! :0
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| 37 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Wed, Jan 07, 2009, 13:09
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Looks like no Dibiase, Jr til February which does me absolutely no good. So a package of Ted w/ Kizarny and/or Zeke is on the block. He's gonna be a big time keeper, cause he's coming back right into a main event level fued with Orton and he'll have scored very little this season. Plus the push from The Marine 2. Glad I traded for him right before they decided he should go film the stupid movie!
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| 38 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Fri, Jan 09, 2009, 09:09
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I just realized how bad my luck is in RWF- Last season I let go of Atlas Ortiz the week before he debuted. This season I let go of Melina Roucka the week before she debuted.
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| 39 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 09, 2009, 09:38
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Yeah and you had Ortiz for a while. Tough to swallow.
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| 40 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Fri, Jan 09, 2009, 23:02
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Val Venis, D'lo Brown and Bam Neely all released today. More released expected to come
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| 41 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 10:31
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According to Pwinsider.com, WWE has released Ron Simmons and WWE Hall of Famer Sgt. Slaughter today. Sarge and Ron Simmons got fired too?!!! :(
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| 42 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 10:57
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Dayum!
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| 43 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 16:02
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How can you fire the legendary SGT SLAUGHTER ??
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| 44 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 23:11
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That's awful. How do you fire the living legend that is Sgt. Slaughter?
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| 45 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:20
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I officially just reached rock bottom.
My girlfriend and I are watching "The Wrestler" movie. She sees Rourke grab the mic in the ring and says "Oh honey, he gets extra points for this".
Oh the life of an RWF scorer...
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| 46 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:24
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lmfao
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| 47 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:38
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hahahahaha
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| 48 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 23:35
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she is a keeper :)
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| 49 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 17:09
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My girlfriend and I are watching "The Wrestler" movie. She sees Rourke grab the mic in the ring and says "Oh honey, he gets extra points for this".
I saw the movie yesterday and had to laugh at that promo because of this.
Great stuff with Necro Butcher. Marisa can dance for me anytime....woo baby. Interesting camerawork with so much of the "walking behind the character" stuff.......the best of which was when The Ram was walking to the deli counter. Very surreal.
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| 51 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Tue, Feb 10, 2009, 22:07
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big night for me- TJ Wilson returns and christian returns- both get back stage points, and wins.
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| 52 | Zyre
ID: 47349132 Tue, Feb 10, 2009, 23:40
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Yeah that was pretty cool, and I wish TJ/Tyson would shave that patch on his head it just looks silly but Nattie was looking the best I think I ever have seen her look tonight as well.
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| 53 | Farn @ work
ID: 6122139 Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 10:23
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For those still looking to deal, after Monday I should be prepared to move Beth or Big Show for keeper potential or a draft pick. Just want to make sure I have 2 pass Batista before I make the move.
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| 54 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Sun, Feb 15, 2009, 17:40
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I am going to be in need of a high scoring non keeper this season- would be willing to move a decent young talent- primo or kidd and a 2nd round pick- (GOs) for someone that outscores Christian and Dibiase. If anyone has an idea i would be interested.
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| 55 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Feb 15, 2009, 18:48
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I will be looking to move Beth or Big Show once I am convinced they will both pass Batista. A pick or young talent would intrigue me.
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| 57 | Great One
ID: 4510512113 Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 21:44
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that was hilarious...
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| 59 | Great One
ID: 4510512113 Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 21:46
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I don't really remember it being that extreme... but thats pretty funny. "Hbk over sells hulk hogans moves to make him look foolish. Shawn did this as he felt he should have been the one to win the match"
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| 60 | Tree
ID: 61411921 Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 22:31
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i'd seen the Tornado/Sydal clip before. Here's to hoping Tornado comes back from his knee injury as fun as he was before.
as for Hogan-Michaels, i'd never seen that one. that was GREAT.
i especially liked the oversell on the big boot towards the end...
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| 61 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 22:55
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lol.........I love HBK rising a foot or more off of the turnbuckle due to the kicks in the corner. Hilarious.
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| 62 | Greg Rude
ID: 361562214 Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 23:58
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LOL both funny clips...
Too bad Hogan was too stupid to realize what HBK was doing, he prob could knock HBK out with a real punch.
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| 63 | Great One
ID: 31112109 Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 13:19
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Tree - did you see Necro Butcher on the Oscars? Kind of... awesomeness. Wiggs liked that guy too, so I bet he was cracking up if he saw it too.
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| 64 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 13:22
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i didnt see it, I will have to see if I can find it online.
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| 65 | Great One
ID: 31112109 Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 13:54
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I can't look til tonight - but it was Rogen and Franco's Pineapple Express skit reviewing the contenders for awards.
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| 66 | Tree
ID: 61411921 Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 15:26
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i did not see it. but man, everyone imed me about it! lol
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| 67 | Great One
ID: 10658208 Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 20:57
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| 68 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 11:16
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What do you guys think about taking a look at when a promo is the last thing on the show... this seems to happen all the freaking time lately and a usually non-main event worthy match is picking up those bonus points. Do we like that? should we consider those main event points going to that promo instead? do we consider giving an extra 5 points to those involved in that "main event promo" i.e. contract signing, staredown whatever? or do we just like it the way it is? To me it just seems like sometimes crap matches get the main event points through this loophole and I wanted to look at it for next season.
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| 69 | Greg Rude
ID: 302131713 Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:18
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I don't like taking away main event points from the last actual match ... but I do think it's a good idea to add something to the end (equivalent to the curtain jerker points) for the final skit. Curtain Close points? lol
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| 70 | Greg Rude
ID: 302131713 Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:19
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and what is happening with this thread?
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| 71 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 15:02
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The pick chart made it crazy!
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| 72 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 11:44
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I'm 36 Beth Phoenix points away from retaining Batista.
But what people really want to know is why Santino isn't in a WM match. That guy should be on TV every single week.
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| 73 | Greg Rude
ID: 30211211 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 12:36
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ahahaha when I goto Hooters with my buddy for the PPV's ... after a couple pitchers of beer I will start talking like Santino Marella to the waitress.
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| 74 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 13:20
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when does this season end?
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| 75 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 13:47
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WM25
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| 76 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 15:41
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It goes through that week right?
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| 77 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 17:53
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no, by request of GO and approval prior to season 10 (I believe 10), the seasons end with WM and Summerslam. Makes for a big climatic finish. We then take the rest of that week and the following week to reset for the next season.
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| 78 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 20:06
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ok thats what I was unsure of. Thanks
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| 79 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 09:32
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Looks like the point spread in this years Super Bowl is gonna be something like Rude +400 points! haha... oh well.
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| 80 | Greg Rude
ID: 30211211 Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 19:42
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*Does Rude Dance*
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| 81 | wiggs
ID: 0139914 Sun, Apr 05, 2009, 17:03
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i know we did something waiving the waiver time on the last day how does that work? Do I have to wait any amount of time, or is the claim official immediately? thanks
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| 82 | Great One
ID: 4425722 Sun, Apr 05, 2009, 18:23
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There will be a final - leaguewide - waiver claim processing at 4 PM on the day of the final PPV. All claims submitted prior to 4 PM Saturday will still follow the traditional 24 hour period. All claims during this 24 hour window will be processed at the same time - 4 PM on Sunday - and if you would like that claim to be in your starting lineup, that offers a few hours before the PPV starts, to get it finalized, otherwise they will be on your bench. If you are unavailable during this time, leave detailed instructions with other league members to post your roster and any moves.
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| 83 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 10:21
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Congrats to Rude - his squad really poured it on down the stretch, it was impossible to keep up and he dominated at WM25. My season came down to the Ted Jr. debacle, that cost me several hundred points trading for him right before he disappears for his honeymoon and to film a movie. That bad timing doesn't happen then I'm right there with Rude last night -- and while I still probably would have lost, it would have made the matches last night account for the championship.
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| 84 | Greg Rude
ID: 32359221 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 13:22
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Thanks Great One ... I really didn't think it would be that close until you pulled off some nice trades. I was getting worried ... the title feels good!!
I think it will be kinda nice to go back to getting excited about points for people like Vickie and Chavo ahaha
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| 85 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 13:29
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Well I think the Wrestlemania Super Bowl did as advertised again, cause you used it to put the nail in the coffin and thats the way it should be. Its the grand finale. I've already seen talk of Orton getting a rematch tonight, and that would just be dumb if it were still close and he wins there and I stole it because of the stupid rematch. Anti-climatic. HHH standing in the ring to close the show is exactly how we should close the season. It was perfect. Except for the me not winning part of it! :)
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| 86 | wiggs Sustainer
ID: 04991311 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 13:45
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Are we sending keepers to Rude? When does he need them by?
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| 87 | Great One
ID: 46215212 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 13:54
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We usually do keepers by Wednesday at noon so people can read spoilers... and then do the draft Thursday/Friday. Rude, people will send you their 4 keepers. Either you need to total them all up and make a ranking based on the total number of points scored by those keepers... or perhaps once you have everyones 4 keepers, put them all in one email and send to Farn/Mike cause they could probably total them up pretty quick in a spreadsheet.
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| 88 | Greg Rude
ID: 32359221 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 17:33
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okie doke ... my email is linked here. I will gather them, rank them and then send to Farn & Mike D for back up to make sure I did it right.
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| 89 | Great One
ID: 4425722 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 18:53
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Quick summary -- take each set of 4 keepers and add up what those 4 guys have scored for the season. After you get that done for the 10 teams everyone gets a rank 1-10 with a #1 carrying over the highest scoring keepers. Then that number gets added to where you finished the season also 1-10 -- so you'll have a 1 in that category, I'll have a 2 etc. Add those two together, and then that'll be the draft order highest to lowest. example -- Sample of draft order determination
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| 90 | Great One
ID: 4425722 Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 18:54
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People can start sending you keepers now to give a headstart, and we'll say have til NOON ON WEDNESDAY to make any changes or last minute adjustments.
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| 91 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 02:07
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Well I need some help. I have the video of WM but there is no way in heck I can score the battle royal. Divas getting booted like crazy with no one even telling us who they were.
Unless someone has a recap site that has them in order we need to figure out how we want to score it.
I have the rest of the show scored.
Oh, and if you haven't seen the HBK/Taker match, see it. It was a beauty.
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| 92 | Tree
ID: 61411921 Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 02:08
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just wanted to say how great 'Mania was live.
while the main event stunk up the joint, HBK vs. Taker was one of the greatest matches i have ever seen live. probably top 5, and considering i've seen probably 1,500 matches live in the last 5 years alone, i think that's saying something.
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| 93 | Greg Rude
ID: 32359221 Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 12:24
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Yeah HBK/Taker was incredible ... people forgot they were in hooters and were jumping all over the place. Why does Vince keep putting these amazing matches right in front of the main event ... No one even cared about HHH/Orton
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| 94 | Greg Rude
ID: 47337716 Tue, Apr 07, 2009, 17:55
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In regards to these keepers, and I have already gotten a few ... do we know of any changes with the scoring from Week 23 (individual wrestlers) ? I mean I had to stop and think ... did Cena pass Triple H? I would assume not but there might be other instances of that. I know Mike D is doing his thing but I've already received 4 sets of keepers.
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