| Posted by: Farn
- Leader [451044109] Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 13:03
| Points | | | | | Alicia Fox | 0 | | | | | Armando Alej. Estrada | 0 | | | | | Ashley | 0 | | | | | Atlas Ortiz | 0 | | | | | Bam Neely | 0 | | | | | Batista | 0 | | | | | Beth Phoenix | 30 | 25 | 5 | | | Big Show | 0 | | | | | Boogeyman | 0 | | | | | Brian Kendrick | 0 | | | | | Brie Bella | 0 | | | | | Candice | 0 | | | | | Carlito | 0 | | | | | Charlie Haas | 0 | | | | | Chavo Guerrero | 0 | | | | | Chris Jericho | 45 | 5 | 30 | 10 | | Chuck Palumbo | 0 | | | | | CM Punk | 25 | 15 | 10 | | | Cody Rhodes | 13 | 3 | 5 | 5 | | Curt Hawkins | 0 | | | | | Deuce Shade | 0 | | | | | D.H. Smith | 0 | | | | | D'Lo Brown | 0 | | | | | DJ Gabriel | 0 | | | | | Dolph Ziggler | 0 | | | | | Dusty Rhodes | 0 | | | | | Edge | 0 | | | | | Elijah Burke | 0 | | | | | Evan Bourne | 0 | | | | | Eve Torres | 0 | | | | | Ezekiel | 0 | | | | | Festus Dalton | 0 | | | | | Fit Finlay | 0 | | | | | Funaki | 0 | | | | | Gail Kim | 0 | | | | | Gavin Spears | 0 | | | | | Gene Snitsky | 0 | | | | | Goldust | 0 | | | | | Great Khali | 0 | | | | | Gregory Helms | 0 | | | | | Hacksaw Duggan | 0 | | | | | Hardcore Holly | 0 | | | | | Hornswaggle | 0 | | | | | Jack Swagger | 0 | | | | | Jamie Noble | 0 | | | | | JBL | 12 | 5 | 2 | 5 | | Jeff Hardy | 0 | | | | | Jerry Lawler | 2 | 2 | | | | Jesse Dalton | 0 | | | | | Jillian Hall | 25 | 25 | | | | Jim Ross | 0 | | | | | Jimmy Wang Yang | 0 | | | | | Joey Styles | 0 | | | | | John Cena | 30 | 30 | | | | John Morrison | 33 | 25 | 8 | | | JTG | 17 | 12 | 5 | | | Kane | 15 | 15 | | | | Katie Burchill | 0 | | | | | Kelly Kelly | 12 | 12 | | | | Ken Dykstra | 0 | | | | | Ken Kennedy | 0 | | | | | Kizarny | 0 | | | | | Kofi Kingston | 30 | 30 | | | | Lance Cade | 0 | | | | | Layla | 3 | 3 | | | | Lena Yada | 0 | | | | | Manu | 0 | | | | | Maria | 0 | | | | | Mark Henry | 0 | | | | | Maryse Ouellet | 0 | | | | | Matt Hardy | 0 | | | | | Matt Striker | 0 | | | | | Melina | 12 | 12 | | | | Michael Cole | 2 | 2 | | | | Michelle McCool | 0 | | | | | Mike Adamle | 0 | | | | | Mick Foley | 0 | | | | | Mickie James | 0 | | | | | Mike Knox | 0 | | | | | Mike Mizanin | 30 | 25 | 5 | | | Milena Roucka | 10 | 5 | 5 | | | MVP | 0 | | | | | Nattie Neidhart | 0 | | | | | Nicole Bella | 0 | | | | | Paul Burchill | 0 | | | | | Paul London | 0 | | | | | Primo Colon | 0 | | | | | Randy Orton | 15 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 5 | Ranjin Singh | 0 | | | | | Rey Mysterio | 30 | 30 | | | | Ric Flair | 0 | | | | | Roddy Piper | 0 | | | | | Ron Killings | 0 | | | | | Ron Simmons | 0 | | | | | Ryan Braddock | 0 | | | | | Santino Marella | 10 | 5 | 5 | | | Scotty Goldman | 0 | | | | | Shad Gaspard | 17 | 12 | 5 | | | Shane McMahon | 5 | 5 | | | | Shawn Michaels | 17 | 2 | 15 | | | Shelton Benjamin | 0 | | | | | Stephanie McMahon | 11 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 5 | Super Crazy | 0 | | | | | Tazz | 0 | | | | | Ted Dibiase | 0 | | | | | Ted Dibiase Jr. | 13 | 3 | 5 | 5 | | Theodore Long | 0 | | | | | Tiffany | 0 | | | | | Todd Grisham | 2 | 2 | | | | Tommy Dreamer | 0 | | | | | Tony Atlas | 0 | | | | | Travis Tomko | 0 | | | | | Trevor Murdoch | 0 | | | | | Triple H | 0 | | | | | Umaga | 0 | | | | | Undertaker | 0 | | | | | Val Venis | 0 | | | | | Vickie Guerrero | 0 | | | | | Victoria | 0 | | | | | Vince McMahon | 0 | | | | | Vladimir Kozlov | 0 | | | | | William Regal | 15 | 15 | | | | Zack Ryder | 0 | | | | | Total | 481 | | | | | | | | | | | |
| 1 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 13:04
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| Season | Week | PPV | Raw | Mike D | 2665 | 226 | 138 | 88 | Rude | 3200 | 349 | 277 | 72 | Great One | 3109 | 297 | 234 | 63 | Farn | 1623 | 138 | 98 | 40 | Bobo | 1237 | 78 | 44 | 34 | Tree | 1962 | 91 | 59 | 32 | Zyre | 2398 | 234 | 207 | 27 | Goatlocker | 1354 | 76 | 51 | 25 | Species | 1070 | 42 | 27 | 15 | Wiggs | 962 | 76 | 63 | 13 | | | | | |
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| 2 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 13:05
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- Dibiase and Rhodes got 5 for the first promo. They were there and involved without speaking.
- I didn't give the "entire" Raw roster points for the final segment. They really weren't actively involved.
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| 3 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 13:34
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Shane punched Kofi in the face!! :)
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| 4 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 14:01
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Then go ahead and rewatch the tape and write down every single person on that platform and give them all 5 points. :)
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| 5 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 14:04
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That I can do. I don't want Dolph Ziggler and Jaime Noble to miss out!
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| 6 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 14:13
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you realize in your haste to make sure your guy, Kofi, gets 5 points that you will end up losing 5 points overall because I believe Rude had 3 guys on the stage and you only had 2. Best case scenario you break even.
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| 7 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 14:47
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JBL/HBK was definitely not out there and I don't think Cena was either. I believe he had Rey and I had Kofi/Morrison.
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| 8 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 18:58
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He won't write all my guys that are out there anyway. He's a bastard!
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| 9 | Great One
ID: 10658208 Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 19:42
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"entire RAW roster" was...
Shad JTG Regal Duggan Jillian Noble Y2J Kane Rey Kofi Kelly Kelly Goldust Haas Ziggler Miz Morrison Punk Knox Melina Layla Santino Phoenix Beth's crazy fan aka Milena Roucka?
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| 10 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 00:50
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I still protest out of the fact we need to keep with usual scoring procedures ... don't we always always say "not giving everyone pts for coming out to congratulate ______" (or whatever)
Do we even give lumber jack points? lol
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| 11 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 09:01
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We do give lumberjack points. And they did come out and get involved with the fight.
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| 12 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 11:19
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We do give lumberjack points.
I guess its worthy of 5 points because there was a slight brawl. I didn't score it because it was way too taxing and really no advantage but GO wants it scored so he can have that 5 point advantage over Rude. Whatever. Long as I don't have to do it.
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| 13 | Mike D
ID: 1411422617 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 11:36
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If they were involved and Farn has confirmed then I am ok with it. Whenever two teams go to the wire every point gets sensitive.
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| 14 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:27
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I don't think there is any debate over whether they earned the points, they were part of the whole promo by standing up to The Legacy and then getting involved with the brawl. Farn just assumed it was everyone so in that scenario he was thinking - its a wash just to give everyone the same points theory - but I specifically noticed certain people were NOT out there so it was worth it to go and detail that. A conscious decision was made by WWE to not have JBL/HBK out there as part of the lockeroom and to keep Cena from interacting with Orton yet. So thats why they did it.
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| 15 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:50
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GO---it's clear to me that there WAS a debate over whether they earned points, but it has since been resolved.
See post 2, Farn----"I didn't give the "entire" Raw roster points for the final segment. They really weren't actively involved.
See post 10, Rude,----"I still protest out of the fact we need to keep with usual scoring procedures ... don't we always always say "not giving everyone pts for coming out to congratulate ______" (or whatever)
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| 16 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 13:11
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Ok i'm fine with that ... as long we concentrate on doing that regularly and not just when it helps the 2nd place guy gain 5 pts.
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| 17 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 13:18
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We always strive for consistency when possible Rude. Sometimes we have new situations with no precedent which we address. Other times an interpretation is needed ("involvement" v. no "involvement" etc).
Farn, even when his team has been in the final mix, has been steady and objective with scoring. You also find those in the mix spend more time watching, reviewing, double checking, which is fine and normal. So there ends up being more discussion toward the end of the season for that reason.
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| 18 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 13:19
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Well there SHOULDN'T have been any debate then I guess I was trying to say?... cause people involved in a promo and brawl on the ramp has been 5 points since the beginning of time, so I'm not sure how thats not consistent with "usual scoring procedures"
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| 19 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 13:38
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Your opinion was clear bro. But that doesn't mean others' opinions can be ignored. As I said, it's resolved, so you can go make another trade. ;)
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| 20 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 14:04
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If I don't make trades, then what would you have to keep track of week to week? I really need to work on another 3-way dance deal to further screw with your chart! :) My opinion next week will then be that Cena really didn't have a match because he doesn't do any actual wrestling moves in his matches so he doesn't deserve it. And you will all have to decide if that fits with precedent or not.
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| 21 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 15:41
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Doh! A spoiler from GO!
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| 22 | Great One
ID: 151126410 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 16:09
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Not really, he hasn't done a wrestling move in 5 years! Shoulderblock, punch, lift the guy up and spin him around whee!!!
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| 23 | Greg Rude
ID: 203143 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 18:47
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I've always been on the helping side of GO ... I never knew what a pit bull he was. SHEESH ;)
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| 24 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 19:02
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You should see Species. ;)
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| 25 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 19:21
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:)
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| 26 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 08:25
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I've added 5 points to the entire list that GO put above. It will appear in newer versions of my chart for team points.
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