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Subject: RWF Season 14 News and Discussion


  Posted by: Farn - Leader [451044109] Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 19:42

As if Goatlocker needed any other issues, Brian Kendrick was released today.
 
1Greg Rude
      ID: 42633019
      Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 20:03
Ouch, they probably knew they were going to do that before they made him lose to Lawler.
 
2tree on the treo
      ID: 515451613
      Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 20:21
while it sucks for brian from a money standpoint, I'm looking forward to his return to ROH..
 
3Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 14:11
For those considering coming here for WM, tickets go onsale November 7.

And the NBA schedule is out today. The Knicks are here the Friday night before WM.
 
4 Zyre
      ID: 54519200
      Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 17:07
As a guy that grew up being a Jeff Jarrett mark
from his Memphis wrestling days I find the below
ironic and funny.

All credit to PWInsider & Mike Johnson for this

COMPLETE DETAILS ON KURT ANGLE ARREST
by Mike Johnson @ 3:00 PM on 8/15/2009

TNA champion Kurt Angle was arrested this morning after a female TNA star he was involved with (and I believe was sharing a home with), who had taken out an active order of protection against him spotted Angle allegedly following her while she was at a Starbucks today.

According to a source at the Robinson Township, PA police department, Angle was pulled over after the woman he allegedly stalked called police.
The TNA champion was found carrying "a capped syringe" and "vials of (Human Growth Hormone) Hygetropin" in his car", according to the source. Angle claimed he had a valid prescription for the HGH.

Angle has been charged with driving with a suspended license (stemming from his refusal to take a breathalyzer test during his 2007 DUI arrest, which was an automatic suspension), illegal possession of the HGH, breaking an order of protection and harassment. He is currently awaiting arraignment.

PWInsider.com is keeping the identity of the female star confidential, although it should be easy to figure it out as he's mentioned her publicly in media appearances in the past, giving the impression they were no longer together. The woman in question is not Kurt's ex-wife Karen Angle.

I am told the Pittsburgh media will likely go with the story tonight on their evening newscasts.

Angle is scheduled to main event tomorrow's TNA Hard Justice PPV against Matt Morgan and Sting, but TNA has not returned PWInsider.com's requests for comment as to his status as of this writing.

 
5Greg Rude
      ID: 2173150
      Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 17:11
LOL TNA FTW
 
6Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 18:30
That guy has become a total clown since his departure from WWE (if he wasn't already).

Zyre, its probably safe to drop him at this point. Not likely Vince would roll the dice on him.
 
7Great One
      ID: 24723111
      Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 14:56
He was dating/stalking Rhaka Khan? wow... interesting choice. Was that before or after Karen? (and the same, reversed question for Jeff Jarret I guess).
 
8Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 18:14
Not that this is a HUGE surprise since half a dozen guys skipped him in the draft, but it seems as if Hardy is gone (per Ewrestlingnews.com):

We can now confirm that Jeff Hardy will be leaving the WWE within the next month or so. Jeff Hardy gave his notice and informed the WWE that he was leaving due to scheduling conflicts, mainly wanting to work less days. Vince McMahon has informed the creative team to scrap future plans with Jeff Hardy and to create an angle for the Undertaker's comback who will fill in for Hardy.

Hardy will have his last WWE appearance at either SummerSlam or next weeks SD! tapings on Tuesday.
 
9Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 18:17
He's the leading scorer in the league! Wow.
 
10Great One
      ID: 24723111
      Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 20:46
Wouldn't that be "not a HUGE surprise"? He'll still make a nice keeper I suspect, cause he'll be back by Wrestlemania if I were betting on it.

Thankfully I have lineup decisions - left both Hurricane and Killings on bench for singles wins this week.

 
11Tree
      ID: 41371322
      Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 23:23
THE FIRST RING OF HONOR STAR (AND ITS A BIG NAME) TO BE OFFERED A WWE DEAL IS....
by Mike Johnson @ 8:48 PM on 8/23/2009

PWInsider.com has confirmed that World Wrestling Entertainment has offered former ROH champion "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson a contract.

Danielson, considered one of the best pure wrestlers in the world from a technical standpoint, has been the nucleus of ROH as he's been main eventing for the company since their first show in February 2002. Originally trained by Shawn Michaels and Rudy Boy Gonzales at the Shawn Michaels Wrestling Academy, Danielson has been something of a journeyman, learning and wrestling all over the world in Japan, Great Britain, Mexico and other countries, as well as training in MMA to create his own unique mesh of styles.

Danielson was under a WWE developmental deal early in his career when the system was based out of Memphis, but was later released. He's long considered William Regal one of his mentors and has been considered the best in-ring performer not signed to a national company for several years running. Danielson has given ROH a number of legitimate classics over the years with everyone from Jushin Liger to KENTA to Paul London to Austin Aries to Samoa Joe, among others. Should he depart the company, it truly is the end of an era for ROH.

Danielson was signed to an ROH contract when the company debuted on PPV, but earlier this year opted not to sign a contract extension. He's continued to work for the company since then as an independent contractor.

As we noted last week exclusively in the PWInsider.com Elite section, the ROH on HDNet move to Mondays brought ROH to the forefront of WWE's attention. Numerous sources within WWE confirmed last week that the company was looking into the contractual status of a number of ROH talents as there were several names that were now on the WWE radar. Danielson is the first name we've confirmed to have actually been offered a deal.


Good for Bryan. As someone who has watched him for the last half-decade as he wrestled, trained, and did some pretty funny things behind the scenes, I wish him the best.

It is without a doubt the end of an era in ROH.
 
12Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 23:34
It is now being reported he actually accepted the offer.

He could be a real big impact player real fast.
 
13 Zyre
      ID: 40837220
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 00:49
More than likely he will languish in FCW until they realize they have nothing for him and wish him the best in his future endeavors.
 
14Great One
      ID: 065867
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 08:45
Yeah, they don't want a - non-Batista - steroid free type who is a master of submissions and technical wrestling. The kiddies won't enjoy that...
 
15 wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:54
With Dibiase's debut this week I am looking to package 2 of the following for 1 upgrade-

Gail Kim
Paul Birchall
Santino
Dibiase

Please email me an offer
 
16Great One
      ID: 437132414
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:05
Same.

Ron Killings
Hurricane
Tyler Reks
Chris Masters
Jeff Hardy!

 
17wiggs
      ID: 347542314
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:41
GO please do not steal my idea
 
18 wiggs
      ID: 347542314
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:42
actually can u email me. non wwe related.
 
19Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 12:55
I'm not even going to use spoiler text for this......I can't imagine anyone here isn't already reading the spoilers, or would be pissed that I spoiled anything about SD!

Punk vs. UT in a submission match??? CAN YOU SAY ANACONDA VICE?!? Will they let him do it??
 
20Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 21:56
Rey Mysterio suspended for a Wellness Violation? Wouldn't have seen that coming.

Great timing on that trade by Rude. Not so good for GO.

This season will stay competitive.
 
21Greg Rude
      ID: 4475223
      Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 23:29
ha ha ha ha! GO Suck it !! *Does Rude Dance*
 
22 Zyre
      ID: 54519200
      Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 00:54
I've got two words for you Rude.........pay up!
The above interjection "suck it" is a registered trademark of WWDXD? Inc and as such you either pay up Rude or we take you out, with a roster consisting of DX and Cryme Tyme you know we are all about the Benjamin$.

Yours truly

Sean Waltman's Self Respect
 
23Greg Rude
      ID: 4475223
      Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 07:52
lmao Z
 
24Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 14:23
LOL....X-pac with the promo!
 
25Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 21:52
YES!!!! I was going to write this season off last week and this week I have rebounded in a big way. Check out the Smackdown spoilers if you are curious why I am celebrating.
 
26Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 01, 2009, 22:27
Nice. About time he got some run. He's been amongst the best contributors in WWE for a couple of years.
 
27Great One
      ID: 13842213
      Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 13:54
First "The Best in the World" Danielson and now Nigel McGuiness? Oh boy, I'll be sad if both of their careers are ruined because they get saddled with some stupid gimmick. They put on the best matches in the world last year. I wouldn't be surprised if Tyler Black is next.
 
28Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 15:05
One would think that both of them would have glorious returns to ROH if they get saddled with crap in WWE. Punk grabbed the brass ring and made it.......why not one or both of these two? Look at Sydal's success as Bourne, too.

WWE's little shift to "PG" I hope bodes well for the non-steroid freaks who can actually wrestle.
 
29Great One
      ID: 13842213
      Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 15:43
McGuinness has more "the look", while not Batista like in muscle he does have a good size and presence. His moves should translate alright I would think. He's British and could slide right into something with Regal or Drew McIntyre or Finlay or one of these Euro angles.

Danielson is a small guy and he's not really a high flyer like Bourne. He's very technical and intense. Like Malenko or his buddy who shall not be named aka The Crippler. I just fear they don't give him a real chance. They need to promote him like he's a killer submission based guy... just comes in and makes people tap in like 10 seconds. HBK did train him though, so maybe that'll help.

 
30Tree, in Texas
      ID: 41371322
      Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 01:24
I wouldn't be surprised if Tyler Black is next.

i would. he's a great talent, but he's really still too green for the WWE.

If i had to place my bets, i'd say Cabana and Strong are going to be offered deals.
 
31Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 13:20
just a little heads-up that I probably won't score Breaking Point live this Sunday. I will try to score it before going to bed but otherwise the next day.


Oh, and just a reminder that WM26 tickets go on sale in 2 months so start saving your money.
 
32Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 12:21
WWE World champ CM Punk defeated Matt Hardy via submission with the Anaconda Vice.

Nice!!!

Looking over this PPV, does anyone have more than 2 people wrestling?? That's parity!
 
33Great One
      ID: 258888
      Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 12:25
Hornswaggle is gonna get a title shot, I'm pretty sure. He deserves one anyway with his winning streak.
 
34Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 16:36
Source: ThePilot.com

Former WWE superstars Jeff Hardy is in the Moore County jail this afternoon after being arrested on charges of trafficking in controlled prescription pills and possession of anabolic steriods.

Hardy, 32, was arrested after a search of his residence yielded 262 Vicodin prescription pills, 180 Soma prescription pills, 555 milliliters of anabolic steroids, a residual amount of powder cocaine and items of drug paraphernalia.His bail was set at $125,000.

A joint investigation conducted by officers with the Moore County Sheriff's Office narcotics and select enforcement units and the Fayetteville Police Department led to the arrest.

Vicodin and anabolic steriods are Schedule III substances, while Soma is a non-controlled prescription pill.

Hardy was charged with felony trafficking in opium, two counts of felony possession with intent to sell or deliver a Schedule III controlled substance, felony maintaining a dwelling to keep controlled substance, felony possession of cocaine and misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.
 
35Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 17:10
555 milliliters of anabolic steroids???

Holy Sh*t! Holy Sh*t! Holy Sh*t!
 
36GoatLocker
      Leader
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 22:38
Yeh, heard this today at work.
One of the gals that works for me came by my desk and told me what had happened.

Her and her daughter are HUGE Hardy fans and were in LA to see the Pay Per View.

She was really bummed.
 
37Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Sep 12, 2009, 18:31
- Mickie James popped one of her surgically enhanced boobies two Mondays ago
during her match against Beth Phoenix on RAW. James, the WWE Divas champion,
has been taken off shows as she gets fitted with a new one and recuperates
from surgery. The accident seems to have happened one minute into the match
as Phoenix did a sliding tackle on James, sending her chest first to the
ring post. James kept favoring the left shoulder for the remainder of the
match but it wasn't actually the shoulder that was hurting. You can see the
footage of the accident at
this site
 
38Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 22:55
Vince McMahon is a ****tard.

Pathetic Vince. Your writing team is so pathetic that you had to do a work of the Montreal screwjob? Its time for you to find some new writers, those who understand the pulse of wrestling fans.


For the first time in this league's history I'm embarrassed to watch wrestling.
 
39wiggs
      ID: 588351121
      Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 23:20
i didnt see the show- what are you referring to?
 
40Tree, in Texas
      ID: 41371322
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 01:03
Wiggs -

Undertaker forced Punk to submit. But Teddy Long ruled that he used a move that Vicki Guerrero banned, so he restarted the match. Punk got 'Taker in the Anaconda, the ref called for the bell, then hightailed it to the back as the announcers said replays showed the Undertaker never submitted. basically a re-do of the Montreal ScrewJob.
 
41Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 03:21
WWE paints themselves into such a MFing corner when it comes to Undertaker. They build him as supernatural and basically unbeatable.......so when the freshest thing to the WWE in a long time.......a bright new star becomes Champion they are f**ked because in no way, shape or form can UT be made to look anything but unbeatable. Lame.
 
42Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 14:19
I will score Breaking Point this afternoon.

p.s. Vince is still an idiot.
 
43Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Sep 28, 2009, 23:13
little help please:

The final gauntlet bout ended in a no contest. How am I scoring that for Cena? I guess by the rule he only gets 10 plus 10 for each bout?
 
44 Zyre
      ID: 54519200
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 00:02
According to WWE.com

WWE Champion John Cena def. Chris Jericho, Big Show & Randy Orton in a 3-on-1 Gauntlet Match

That is how they list the gauntlet match
 
45wiggs
      ID: 588351121
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 00:05
unfortunately i would say it is 1 match and it ended in a no contest.

main event points to cena, y2j, show and orton- is my opinion.
 
46Great One
      ID: 49852811
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 08:47
I think I would do 10,10,10 for Cena (and only 10 for Orton, Show, Y2J) + main event points for all 4.
 
47wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 09:48
GO- Why are you thinking 3 10s?

I would think that we should count it as 1 match- no contest- which would be my vote.

Or 3 individual matches- which would be 2 DQ wins and 1 no contest.
 
48Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 11:40
here's the rules for those who want to debate:

Effective Week 5, Season IX:

"A gauntlet match, where a wrestler or team takes on a series of opponents in a single show will be scored as one match. The end result will be a win or a loss versus the final participant in the gauntlet match.

However, as a bonus, the wrestler(s) involved will earn a 10 point bonus for each victory during the gauntlet match leading up to (but not including) the final match of the gauntlet."
 
49Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 11:53
So did Cena win the first two "matches" within the gauntlet, but the third was a no contest?

If so, 10+10+10 plus ME points makes sense to me.

Damn that gauntlet match definition is well written.
 
50Great One
      ID: 49852811
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 12:05
He won the first two by DQ... then no-contest.
 
51wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 12:10
Ok- very good- I didnt remember the 10 point bonus for each win.


I think GOs- scoring would be right then.
 
52Great One
      ID: 49852811
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 13:57
That description doesn't really explain what Show, Y2J should earn, does it? unless thats the not the whole of the language.

Or if they are supposed to get 10 for participating we need to take away the victory part of it.

 
53Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 16:50
unless somebody else chimes in I'll try to add this in tonight and score ECW.
 
54Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 17:30
Show and Y2J get match points too for their participation in the gauntlet match. They should get DQ points.
 
55Great One
      ID: 49852811
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 12:51
Ok, so that works out to 10 anyway. But lets say Cena pinned Y2J clean. Cena gets the 10 for advancing in the gauntlet... and then Y2J would get 15 for a "singles loss" in a way?
 
56Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 13:17
yeah, I think that's how its set up.
 
57Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 16:31
Yes, GO. The opponents in a gauntlet get match points like any other match. If they are a tag team going against a single opponent (or another tag team for that matter), they get their 25 or 12 depending upon whether they win or lose. Singles get singles match points. The rule was structured to clarify the points given to the person(s) trying to run the gauntlet.
 
58Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 14:34
Just a little reminder that WM tickets go on sale in 25 days. (November 7)
 
59Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 10:57
I really hope the reports of Mickie being viewed negatively backstage because of "weight gain" is wrong.

If in any way that girl is punished for not looking like a waif then the WWE (and it falls completely on Vince) is very wrong. She looks just as incredible now as she did a year ago or 5 years ago. She's still a good worker and one of the best Divas ever.

I rarely speak out on crappy rumors but I really hope that's crap. Vince needs to worry about his crap booking and stop worrying about a problem that doesn't exist.
 
60Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 14:00
There's plenty of room for the Kelly Kelly/eye-candy chicks in WWE. They can come and go. The real female wrestlers ought to be given a little more slack....and with WWE's big PG push, what is the big deal?

Now, Matt Hardy's gut and physique? AWFUL. Almost uncomfortably awful to see him hanging out of his pants.
 
61Great One
      ID: 4778411
      Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 16:21
I believe Matt's problems had a lot to do with his injury over the last year etc. Abdominal tear and the thing where his intestines burst through the stomach wall lining. I'm gonna guess thats made it a bit tough to do a sit-up! :)
 
62Greg Rude
      ID: 509331322
      Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 17:59
Yeah Species, stop being a douche!
 
63Great One
      ID: 209121913
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:57
In a surprising move, former ROH world champion Nigel McGuinness has signed with TNA and is backstage in Orlando today at the TNA tapings. McGuinness had reportedly agreed to a deal with WWE some time ago, but had never signed.
 
64Great One
      ID: 101045312
      Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 13:35
Thought this was amusing.

Shawn Michaels has often told this story concerning how the Rockers were fired from their first stint in the WWF: "We fly up to the old office in Greenwich, and Marty and I are just sitting there ... with the snakeskin cowboy boots, you know, and Vince comes out and goes, 'Hey, nice boots!' And we went, 'Oh, thank you.' He says, 'They're made for walkin', you know.' We went, 'Ohhh...oh, God, please...!' He goes, 'Ha! Just kiddin', come on in.' We came in, then he fired us."

 
65Bobo
      ID: 2910542015
      Fri, Nov 20, 2009, 16:55
been a while since i checked in, but in the spirit of that wanted to share a WWE urban legend:

~Ahmed Johnson did a lot of coke back around 1996 at the height of his WWF pay. I don't think I have to tell you that Chris Candido and Tammy Sytch enjoy(ed) their fair share of nose candy. Well once they had blown through their cash but were still jonesing, they got desparate. They asked Ahmed for an eight ball on credit. He laughed and said, "Black people don't believe in credit. But we can barter." Chris asked what he wanted and Ahmed nodded in her direction. Chris looked at Tammy who shrugged before he said, "Well hey don't hurt her, okay?" So like twenty minutes later Ahmed finishes and Tammy leaves his room with the tiny, paper envelope. Instead of going back and using it with Chris (who was in their room freaking out), she did the coke with Shawn Michaels and spent the night in his room. A few hours later a frantic Candido starts banging on Ahmed's door. Ahmed answers the door and Candido asks, "Is Tammy here?" Ahmed shrugs and Chris says, "Where the **** is Tammy?" Ahmed says he doesn't know because she left hours ago. Candido immediately abandons his search and says, "Well did she take the dope with her?" The next morning he still hasn't seen Tammy so he goes to the front desk where he runs into Shawn Michaels in the lobby. Shawn walks up to Candido and pushes a nostril close, sniffs, and says, "Thanks for the bump, Chris." Chris asked where Tammy was and Shawn said, "She's probably back in your room now." Candido stormed up to see her, got in a big argument, went to the building, and quit on the spot. The agent told him he couldn't quit w/o a written notice. So he picked up a booking sheet, flipped it over, and wrote: "I quit. Chris Candido" And that was the end of his WWF career.
 
66Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 22:37
hey, I know we went with the 2/5/7 structure for this league now but I can't remember if the top scorer is an automatic loss like it used to be.

So basically can your top scorer be one of the 2 keepers?
 
67Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 13:16
That was my assumption......lose your top keeper like always.
 
68Great One
      ID: 54114918
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 16:21
Former WWE star Eddie "Umaga" Fatu has been hospitalized in an ICU unit in Houston, TX. Reports are going around that he is now brain dead, but that has not been confirmed by his family. WWE called it a "grave situation." His condition is thought to be life-threatening and his family was told to get into town and to the hospital right away.

Details are a bit sketchy at this point, but he was apparently found by his wife this morning, not breathing with blood coming out of his nose.

 
69Greg Rude
      ID: 491046280
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 16:39
My goodness.
 
70 Zyre
      ID: 54519200
      Fri, Dec 18, 2009, 12:28
Possible Bret Hart news from PWInsider The Bret Hart story that has been bouncing around the Internet earlier today actually originated in The Wrestling Observer. The company is expecting a Bret-Vince McMahon storyline of some sort going forward. That's why the teases for a Vince McMahon vs. The Undertaker storyline were shelved in favor of Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels II at Wrestlemania 26.
 
71Great One
      ID: 391123011
      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 13:36
* In an awesome dark match, Bryan Danielson (in his first match as an official WWE contracted wrestler) defeated Chavo Guerrero. The crowd really got into the match.

I'm glad to hear the way this sounds, but I still have serious doubts that Danielson will ever be given the push a man with his wrestling talent deserves. I still fear they'll give him some stupid generic name like Derek Speed and a gimmick where he studders or is a mute or something awful.

 
72Greg Rude
      ID: 491046280
      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 13:52
a new Repo-Man would be AWESOME ... or what about Skinner??
 
73Great One
      ID: 8047279
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 09:19
I've got 2 extra guys in the Royal Rumble in Masters and Hurricane. Anyone want a package deal so they can fill out their starting lineup?
 
74Great One
      ID: 20129413
      Fri, Feb 05, 2010, 14:15
So with ECW now being called "NXT"... do we plan to continue scoring it? I guess its a wait and see if its pretty much the same roster with a different name.

I think either way we should drop the value of the primarybelt to equivalent of the IC/US Titles should we decide to continue scoring it.

 
75Tree, on lunch
      ID: 570552512
      Fri, Feb 05, 2010, 15:46
So with ECW now being called "NXT"... do we plan to continue scoring it? I guess its a wait and see if its pretty much the same roster with a different name.

the entire format of the show is changing as well. apparently, there is going to be a "reality" aspect of the show, where they follow the wrestlers outside of the ring, and so on.

from what i hear, it's gonig to be somewhat of an "Ultimate Fighter" type of show, but more scripted.
 
76Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Feb 05, 2010, 16:21
My original thought is that we don't score it because it seems like it will be another batch of wrestlers. I have a feeling the ECW roster will be shuffled to another show and developmental guys will come in. I'm not sure we need another batch of guys to keep track of.
 
77Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Feb 05, 2010, 18:35
Definitely sounds like a wait and see thing to me.
 
78Farn
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      Mon, Feb 15, 2010, 22:21
Is the most recent trade between Rude and Zyre the only one that has involved a Season 15 pick? I'm realizing I haven't really focused on transactions this year so I want to nip it in the bud early.

Basically is that the only trade where somebody has given up a draft pick in any future draft?
 
79Great One
      ID: 15156520
      Mon, Feb 15, 2010, 22:25
Is Season 15 next? I traded my 1st for Swagger to Species.
 
80Farn
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      Mon, Feb 15, 2010, 22:51
15 is next.

Just found that wiggs and Tree had a trade too so I've included that in my tracking as well.
 
81Tree
      ID: 23143812
      Tue, Feb 16, 2010, 11:45
from pwinsider.com

WWE sources have told us that the following talents are scheduled to be a part of the NXT show, which will debut on Sy Fy in the current ECW timeslot next week.

FCW Champion: Justin Angel
Daniel Bryan
Kaval
Skip Sheffield
Joe Hennig
Brett Dibiase
Darren Young
Heath Slater
Michael Tarver


Kaval is Low Ki, and Daniel Bryan is Bryan Danielson.

Henning and Dibiase are both third generation stars.

 
82Tree
      ID: 23143812
      Wed, Feb 17, 2010, 17:27
update on the cast, also from pwinsider.com

The cast of WWE NXT, as announced officially during the final ECW on SyFy:

*Chris Jericho mentoring Wade Barrett.

*Matt Hardy mentoring Justin Gabriel.

*MVP mentoring Skip Sheffield.

*Carlito mentoring Michael Tarver.

*Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan (aka Bryan Danielson) - No, really.

*Christian mentoring Heath Slater.

*CM Punk mentoring Darren Young.

*R-Truth mentoring David Otunga.


and a bit about the rookies...

*Wade Barrett - Billed as a "former bare knuckle fighter who is obsessed with money and anything he can do to get it." That aspect of his character appears to be a work, although it's possible. He's from Manchester, Great Britain and broke in working for Hammerlock UK. Al Snow helped train him. He's been developmental for a few years and is a solid heel. He'll be mentored by Chris Jericho and will be a heel here as well.

*Justin Gabriel - From South Africa. They compared him to Johnny Damon last night, so they are going to try and paint him as a charismatic athlete. He's the current FCW champion under the moniker "Justin Angel." Angel has been a decent champion but hasn't been the type who can carry a brand on his shoulders. One could make a comparison to Evan Bourne is a good one, but Angel is a little bigger and doesn't rely on high flying moves quite as much as Bourne. He'll be mentored by Matt Hardy and will be a babyface.

*Michael Tarver - A knockout specialist who's father sparred with Mike Tyson. That is legitimate. He's been billed as The "Son of a prizefighter and preacher" has been one of the more interesting characters as of late in Florida Championship Wrestling. His work in the ring has been better too, but that can probably be attributed to the caliber of his opponents. After seemingly going nowhere for a good part of the last year, the NXT opportunity will probably be make or break for Tarver. Tarver will be coached by Carlito.

*Skip Sheffield - An Old Fashioned Texas Boy is how he was described on ECW. A more muscled Ken Anderson is a good description of his ring work, but he seems to genuinely connect with the fans in his current gimmick. His work isn't bad in the ring, but if you see someone of his size and build, it is about what you would expect. If you can enjoy the character then you can probably stomach the work. He'll be coached by MVP.

*Heath Slater - "A Walking Rock Band" from West Virginia. Movement up from FCW has been long over due for Heath. The PG-13 Superstar (because of his early resemblance to Edge) puts on enjoyable matches and can steal the show if paired up with the right person, like he did with Banderas a few weeks ago. Christian will oversee him on NXT as a babyface.

*Darren Young - Most of his character definition was based around his "granite-life physique." Young is longtime Northeastern independent wrestler Fred Sampson, who also worked as "Frederick of Hollywood" for Jim Kettner's ECWA. From an in-ring standpoint, he is still pretty raw and might still need more work in FCW. His work is solid but none of his matches in FCW have truly stood out looking back. In FCW, his South Beach Boys tag team with Percy Watkins is entertaining live (although it probably doesn't feel the same on TV) and there was some shelf life left to it. His hairstyle will make him stand out, similar to how Carlito's stood out early. CM Punk will be overseeing him, so Young will be a heel.

*Daniel Bryan - Described as having "More experience than any other competitor and being a no nonsense competitor.", Bryan is of course former ROH champion Bryan Danielson. From an in-ring technical standpoint, he's going to be far and away the best performer of the cast, having toured all over the world learning different styles and having dozens of incredible matches under his belt. The series will bill him from Las Vegas, Nevada as opposed to his original hometown of Aberdeen, Washington, but he's been in Vegas for some time training in MMA while waiting to be called to the company's main roster. Some fans are up in arms over the idea of him being mentored by the Miz, but it's important to remember he's starting out with a fresh slate and "Daniel Bryan" the character isn't "American Dragon" the character...at least, not yet.

*David Otunga - "Jennifer Hudson's fiancé" is pretty much all they told us about him, although he has also done VH-1 Reality shows in the past, including "I Love New York." That might give him the edge in knowing how and when to play to the cameras and use his facial expressions. He's got a legitimate Harvard Law degree and is billed from Chicago. His work inside the ring has been decent but he's still very early in his development as he took some time off to be with Hudson after her family tragedy last year. He'll be mentored by R-Truth.
 
83Great One
      ID: 20129413
      Thu, Feb 18, 2010, 10:21
Miz mentoring Dragon is pretty comical when you consider Dragon is The Wrestling Observer's "Most Outstanding Wrestler" and "Best Technical Wrestler FOUR years in a row.

Its like if Beniot (or Malenko) got mentored by Buff Bagwell or Van Hammer when he came to WCW from ECW/Japan. The only reason it makes some sense is because Miz is good on the mic, and (similar to Beniot) Danielson is very average in the promo department.

 
84Tree
      ID: 23143812
      Thu, Feb 18, 2010, 11:38
(similar to Beniot) Danielson is very average in the promo department

Actually, i always thought that Danielson was very good on the mic. the difference is that i'm not sure his style translates well to a large arena setting...
 
85Great One
      ID: 2510199
      Fri, Feb 19, 2010, 10:03
This is pretty freaking awesome -- from a John Morrison interview lol...

On Miz mentoring Daniel Bryan: Yeah, when I saw that, I was at the ECW taping, and I actually saw Miz. He didn't know either until he saw the graphic on the screen. That he was the "Pro" and Bryan Danielson was the student. I walked by and said, "Pssh, he knows more that you do." And that's pretty much what everyone thinks. It's gonna be interesting and I think that's the point of it.

 
86Farn
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      Tue, Feb 23, 2010, 09:37
Anybody have an idea how to handle NXT? Or are we going to wait and see what happens?
 
87wiggs
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      Tue, Feb 23, 2010, 10:32
My thoughts would be to wait and see. From what I have seen/heard about the show I would say probably just not score it at all at this point.
 
88Great One
      ID: 2510199
      Tue, Feb 23, 2010, 10:35
How about we definitely don't score it this season, since there are only like 5-6 weeks left anyway.
Then we get a good sample, and have a vote in the "offseason" aka the week after Wrestlemania.
 
89Species
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      Tue, Feb 23, 2010, 14:44
I'm surprised this is even an issue. Is the sentiments posted above because we're wondering if it will be equivilent to "Heat"?? I mean, that's more or less what Superstars is, IMO.

I'm indifferent I guess.......just surprised at this sentiment.
 
90Great One
      ID: 2510199
      Tue, Feb 23, 2010, 15:15
Superstars is a level about Heat I would say, I mean for example IIRC a week ago the main event was Y2J vs. Kane. You didn't see that level on Heat.

This sounds like its gonna be like Ultimate Fighter where you watch them train and they face off (not in front of a real crowd). If thats the case, that sounds like an interesting show - but thats not a show we score.

 
91Species
      ID: 57932516
      Wed, Feb 24, 2010, 00:54
I retract.

I read something that said it's kind of like a combo of wrestling show/reality show kind of like Tough Enough.
 
92Farn
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      Sun, Feb 28, 2010, 09:52
I didn't score NXT this week. If we want it scored for the league please ask today. Otherwise I won't have time until next weekend and by then my dvr will have auto-deleted it for the newest episode of NXT.
 
93Great One
      ID: 15156520
      Sun, Feb 28, 2010, 11:46
We don't plan to score NXT til the start of next season at which time we'll vote on it. We'll take the next month to determine if its worth scoring.
 
94Farn
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      Wed, Mar 10, 2010, 15:44
for the Raw gauntlet, do all those guys get 25 points for having helped McMahon in some way? There is no real list of his partners so I'm guessing they all get credit, including Batista.
 
95Great One
      ID: 26234311
      Wed, Mar 10, 2010, 15:46
Yeah, it was weird cause usually that side of the gauntlet doesn't win.

I guess they would. But would they get main event? I would think not, just the last 2 guys?

 
96Farn
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      Wed, Mar 10, 2010, 23:42
Not sure we can decide after the fact who gets ME points. Technically they were all tag match members, none of which was ever technically eliminated from the bout. Might be tricky to make that work.

Plus I've also learned that if you short somebody points without a concrete precedent you are asking to get yelled at. :)