| Posted by: Farn
- Leader [451044109] Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:29
| Points | | | | | | Abraham Washington | 0 | | | | | | Alicia Fox | 0 | | | | | | Batista | 0 | | | | | | Beth Phoenix | 0 | | | | | | Big Show | 5 | 5 | | | | | Brett Dibiase | 0 | | | | | | Brian Kendrick | 0 | | | | | | Brie Bella | 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | | | Candice | 0 | | | | | | Carlito | 0 | | | | | | Charlie Haas | 0 | | | | | | Chavo Guerrero | 17 | 15 | 2 | | | | Chris Jericho | 20 | 5 | 15 | | | | Chris Masters | 24 | 2 | 12 | 10 | | | Christian | 0 | | | | | | CM Punk | 0 | | | | | | Cody Rhodes | 20 | 5 | 10 | 5 | | | Courtney Taylor | 0 | | | | | | Curt Hawkins | 0 | | | | | | D.H. Smith | 0 | | | | | | DJ Gabriel | 0 | | | | | | Dolph Ziggler | 0 | | | | | | Drew McIntyre | 0 | | | | | | Dusty Rhodes | 0 | | | | | | Edge | 0 | | | | | | Eugene | 0 | | | | | | Evan Bourne | 30 | 30 | | | | | Eve Torres | 0 | | | | | | Ezekiel | 0 | | | | | | Festus Dalton | 0 | | | | | | Fit Finlay | 0 | | | | | | Funaki | 0 | | | | | | Gail Kim | 0 | | | | | | Goldust | 0 | | | | | | Great Khali | 0 | | | | | | Gregory Helms | 0 | | | | | | Hacksaw Duggan | 0 | | | | | | Hornswaggle | 5 | 5 | | | | | Jack Swagger | 0 | | | | | | Jamie Noble | 0 | | | | | | Jeff Hardy | 0 | | | | | | Jerry Lawler | 2 | 2 | | | | | Jesse Dalton | 0 | | | | | | Jillian Hall | 10 | 5 | 5 | | | | Jim Ross | 0 | | | | | | Jimmy Wang Yang | 0 | | | | | | John Cena | 25 | 2 | 18 | 5 | | | John Morrison | 0 | | | | | | Josh Matthews | 2 | 2 | | | | | JTG | 0 | | | | | | Kane | 0 | | | | | | Katie Burchill | 0 | | | | | | Kelly Kelly | 2 | 2 | | | | | Ken Kennedy | 0 | | | | | | Kofi Kingston | 0 | | | | | | Layla | 0 | | | | | | Maria | 0 | | | | | | Mark Henry | 5 | 5 | | | | | Maryse | 0 | | | | | | Matt Hardy | 0 | | | | | | Matt Striker | 0 | | | | | | Melina | 0 | | | | | | Michael Cole | 2 | 2 | | | | | Michelle McCool | 0 | | | | | | Mickie James | 0 | | | | | | Mike Knox | 0 | | | | | | Mike Mizanin | 0 | | | | | | MVP | 35 | 30 | 5 | | | | Nattie Neidhart | 0 | | | | | | Nicole Bella | 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | | | Paul Burchill | 0 | | | | | | Primo Colon | 0 | | | | | | Randy Orton | 34 | 5 | 2 | 12 | 10 | 5 | Ranjin Singh | 0 | | | | | | Rey Mysterio | 0 | | | | | | Ric Flair | 0 | | | | | | Ricky Ortiz | 0 | | | | | | Roddy Piper | 0 | | | | | | Ron Killings | 0 | | | | | | Ron Simmons | 0 | | | | | | Rosa Mendes | 0 | | | | | | Santino Marella | 15 | 5 | 5 | 5 | | | Shad Gaspard | 0 | | | | | | Shane McMahon | 0 | | | | | | Shawn Michaels | 37 | 2 | 25 | 10 | | | Sheamus | 0 | | | | | | Shelton Benjamin | 0 | | | | | | Sim Snuka | 0 | | | | | | Stephanie McMahon | 0 | | | | | | Tazz | 0 | | | | | | Ted Dibiase Jr. | 5 | 5 | | | | | Theodore Long | 0 | | | | | | Tiffany | 0 | | | | | | Todd Grisham | 0 | | | | | | Tommy Dreamer | 0 | | | | | | Tony Atlas | 0 | | | | | | Triple H | 37 | 2 | 25 | 10 | | | Tyler Reks | 0 | | | | | | Tyson Kidd | 0 | | | | | | Umaga | 0 | | | | | | Undertaker | 0 | | | | | | Vickie Guerrero | 0 | | | | | | Vince McMahon | 0 | | | | | | Vladimir Kozlov | 0 | | | | | | William Regal | 0 | | | | | | Yoshi Tatsu | 0 | | | | | | Zack Ryder | 0 | | | | | | Total | 344 | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| 1 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:29
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Bob Barker +3+5+2+5+2+2 Irwin R. Schyster +5+5 AJ Pierzinski +5
- The Santino/Big Show/Henry thing was a bodyslam contest, not a bout. So they only got 5 points each. You could probably argue the Henry/Show contest but it was called a bodyslam contest and the first one had no bell. But if people feel strongly we can fix it.
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| 2 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:29
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| 3 | wiggs Leader
ID: 04991311 Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:45
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both contests were matches, both had a bell to start the match and to end the match. I dont see how that can not count as a match. I still have the show on dvr and I just watched it again.
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| 4 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:48
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I have it on dvr too. My only issue was that it was a bodyslam contest, not a match with a pin or submission. I compared it to things like an arm wrestling contest. And considering the Santino/Show one last a half second with scoop and slam I really saw it as a promo.
But as I said if people want to score it as a bout that's fine with me.
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| 5 | wiggs Leader
ID: 04991311 Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:50
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without a bell I would agree with you, but they called him "an opponent" and declared a winner. I will go with what is decided by the group as well.
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| 6 | GoatLocker Leader
ID: 060151121 Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 08:35
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Did not see it and don't have it taped, so will go with whatever the group says.
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| 7 | Great One
ID: 258888 Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 09:08
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I saw them as a wrestling match with the stipulation of the body slam to win -- like a tables match where going through a table wins etc.
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| 8 | Farn @ work
ID: 370472110 Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 13:50
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anyone else want to chime in?
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| 9 | Great One
ID: 258888 Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 14:05
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Here is how I think you can tell the difference... neither guy stood there and let the other try and bodyslam them, did they? like in the Masterlock Challenge you sit there and let Masters put it on you. They were fighting each other for control I believe.
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| 10 | Zyre
ID: 54519200 Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 23:35
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Logically if one is an official match then they both should be counted as matches, my only caveat to that is that in WWE's own recap they only listed the Henry win in bold like they do matches whereas the Santino loss was noted in the recap. During the Henry/Show match at one point someone looked like they were going to go for a pin and one of the announce team mentioned that the only way to win was via bodyslam so for that I would have to say they both count as matches.
On a seperate note do DX get points for promos for their pre-match mic work? I remember someone bringing up Ron Killings rapping on the way to the ring but to me if he does it in the ring, DX does their schtick, or even Jillian sings before a match those all feel like promos to me.
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| 11 | Great One
ID: 258888 Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 09:01
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DX should definitely get the points, the routine is always customized (if they even do it) and isn't part of the song or whatever.
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| 12 | Farn Leader
ID: 451044109 Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 09:42
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Yeah, I have compared the DX schtick to Killings. Its basically the same thing every time, with the one change being whatever dopey line HHH says after "the millions around the world".
If you guys want to give points for that we can but to me its very much a canned "promo" of nothingness.
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| 13 | Great One
ID: 258888 Fri, Sep 11, 2009, 14:45
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If I had to guess I would assume most people would give promo points for the DX pre-match routine. Can we have an informal vote here?
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