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Subject: S21 RWF Discussion

  Posted by: GO - [811442813] Mon, Dec 31, 2012, 09:12
Season 21 RWF Draft
 
1GO
      ID: 811442813
      Mon, Dec 31, 2012, 09:15 		RWF Season 21 Schedule
All roster freezes will be the start of first show live or taped each week.

Week 1 - 1/07 RAW/SD
Week 2 – 1/14 RAW/SD
Week 3 – 1/21 RAW/SD
Week 4 – 1/27 Royal Rumble PPV, RAW/SD
Week 5 – 2/04 RAW/SD
Week 6 – 2/11 RAW/SD
Week 7 – 2/17 Elimination Chamber PPV END REGULAR SEASON

Week 8 - 2/18 Semi-Finals RAW + SD
Week 9 – 2/25 Semi-Finals RAW + SD
Week 10 – 3/04 Semi-Finals RAW + SD

Week 11 – 3/11 Finals RAW + SD
Week 12 – 3/18 - Finals RAW + SD
Week 13 – 3/25 – Finals RAW + SD
Week 14 – 4/1 – Wrestlemania PPV - RWF Super Bowl

Season 21 1st Round Locks
Great One, Farn, Rude cannot trade away S22 1st Round picks
 
2wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Tue, Jan 01, 2013, 12:14 		Can we get this thing rolling? Wed, Thursday and Friday will be tough days for me to draft- i will have access, but very limited.
 
3GO
      ID: 441171223
      Tue, Jan 01, 2013, 20:39 		I'm just gonna pick Cena for him if he doesn't pick by tomorrow at noon. Wiggs you can send me 9 names (or 6 names and then a second email with 3 names if you want). I'll text you with updates tomorrow. I've got a normal day of work so I'll be a computer all day.
 
4wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Wed, Jan 02, 2013, 07:20 		Pick 1.06 has been traded to Great one for Daniel Bryan.
 
5GO
      ID: 811442813
      Thu, Jan 03, 2013, 13:49 		So we never voted on whether to add WWE Main Event to scoring. I personally don't get that channel so I've never watched. But they do seem to get some legit matches.

Unless someone plans to watch and score each week, here is my proposal for scoring it. I will read the results and ONLY give match wins/loss match related points (including bonus for main event, championship match, specialty match etc). But I will not be trying to figure out curtain jerkers, backstage or in-ring promo's etc. Its just too hard to figure those things out from reading.
I will simply add these to the Smackdown points tab so I don't have to have a whole extra chart etc.
 
6RJ
      ID: 34302714
      Thu, Jan 03, 2013, 18:17 		I think that seems fair. Just win/loss results are fine.
 
7Greg Rude
      ID: 557512423
      Fri, Jan 04, 2013, 07:41 		Capturing the main points/results from it is better than nothing at all. Sounds good to me. They have had some decent matches on there... but WGN Superstars started that way at first, too. Hopefully
the same won't happen once it gets 'established'
 
9 wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Sat, Jan 05, 2013, 14:36 		If anyone is looking ahead to next season I am looking for another scorer and will give up my 1st pick for 1.
 
10Greg Rude
      ID: 557512423
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 03:50 		Doesn't really matter since they are a tag team ... Give me Primo or Epico depending on Farn's 5.1 pick.
 
11Farn on phone
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 19:07 		Anyone want Sin Cara or Big Show?
 
12Greg Rude
      ID: 557512423
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 21:51 		Question for the future ...

I'm assuming I don't lose my waiver position just from activating a prospect, correct?
 
13 Zyre
      ID: 414321923
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 22:45 		"Unless someone plans to watch and score each week, here is my proposal for scoring it. I will read the results and ONLY give match wins/loss match related points"

That sounds good to me
 
14RJ
      ID: 24045621
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 22:45 		Also noticed that a lot of people only started 5, we are starting 6 wrestlers right?
 
15Greg Rude
      ID: 557512423
      Sun, Jan 06, 2013, 22:53 		You're right RJ ... it should be 6 starters, 2 bench and 1 prospect. Wiggs and Tree need to adjust. (Although I think Tree just forgot someone)
 
16Farn on phone
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 08:54 		Nobody has interest in the World Champion, Big Show?
 
17GO
      ID: 811442813
      Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 08:59 		I do but don't have a 1st.
 
18Farn on phone
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 10:05 		Sounds like you need to find a 3rd team to facilitate it :)
 
19GO
      ID: 811442813
      Mon, Jan 07, 2013, 10:12 		So you are saying you want to have a three way?
 
20GO
      ID: 811442813
      Wed, Jan 09, 2013, 09:24 		Ok, so we seem to be ok with basic match related points for WWE Main Event. So here is this weeks sample.
WWE Main Event SPOILERS if you want to wait a day, don't read more...

So I would give...
Sheaumus 18
Ziggler 10
Barrett 30
Ryder 15

1. Sheamus defeated Dolph Ziggler (w/AJ, Big E Langston) via countout. A great back and forth match that ended with Sheamus winning by count out. Big E and Sheamus had a great stare down with Big E finally walking away.

2. Intercontinental Champion Wade Barrett beat Zack Ryder. A good match that showed Ryder can wrestle once you get past the comedy act. This concluded Main Event.

I'm thinking unless there is a title match or specialty match bonus involved - thats how simple it should be. No points for curtain jerker, no promo or interference or manager points, no commentary etc.

One thing we need to vote on though - do we give Barrett and Ryder 10 main event points?
I vote no, because I don't think main eventing a 2 match show is really worthy, I consider this more of a Smackdown warmup. But I am more or less on the fence about it.
 
21RJ
      ID: 34302714
      Wed, Jan 09, 2013, 12:57 		I would agree no additional +10 for main
Eventing
 
22wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Wed, Jan 09, 2013, 16:11 		no to additional points
 
23Greg Rude
      ID: 557512423
      Wed, Jan 09, 2013, 20:40 		Like you said, considering it's only 2 matches. No sounds right.
 
24RJ
      ID: 49061112
      Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 13:06 		Mysterio available, would prefer a pick but will entertain offers.
 
25Tree
      ID: 1910562515
      Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 16:36 		hardly got to know ya, Tyson Kidd. maybe next time, Kidd.
 
26RJ
      ID: 430361322
      Sun, Jan 13, 2013, 23:36 		Prices
Del Rio MAKE OFFER
Rey Mysterio 2nd Rounder
Santino 2nd Rounder
 
27Tree
      ID: 500501417
      Mon, Jan 14, 2013, 18:50 		i smell a title change tonight.
 
28 Tree
      ID: 100241510
      Tue, Jan 15, 2013, 11:24 		a may be looking for another scorer...interested to hear some offers...
 
29RJ
      ID: 160372011
      Sun, Jan 20, 2013, 12:59 		Man if I only had McIntyre, I'd have the 3MB BEEEEY-BAAAAAY!!!!!
 
30GO
      ID: 300542419
      Thu, Jan 24, 2013, 20:54 		Dusty Rhodes Muffler Cupcakes

Yum!
 
31Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 16:25 		Anyone looking for a last couple scorers before the Rumble -- I've got Great Khali and/or Drew McIntrye for a mid round pick swap.
 
32Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Mon, Jan 28, 2013, 09:16 		I'd look at trading Jericho to a contender if someone is interested. I am looking for a 3rd keeper and/or 2nd rounder depending on the talent paired with it.
 
33Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 10:54 		Rumble Elimination Point Increase
Currently 1 point per elimination.
A)1 Points
B)2 Points
C)3 Points
 
34Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 10:55 		Majority of people throw out 0,1,2 people... then Cena/Ryback threw out 5 each. Cody next with 4 eliminations. All time record is 7 eliminations.
 
35Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 10:56 		I vote for C) 3 Points per elimination
 
36Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 11:19 		I vote for C) 3 Points per elimination
 
37wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 22:15 		C
 
38Greg Rude
      ID: 150282923
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 22:57 		I'm gonna go B) 2 pts with consideration asked for rewarding the Rumble winner just a little more. Winning the RR is the biggest thing outside of winning the Main Event at Mania ... whether you come in at 30 or not. They plan that shit all year.
 
39RJ
      ID: 3714522
      Tue, Feb 05, 2013, 23:04 		C
 
40Great One
      ID: 120252515
      Wed, Feb 06, 2013, 08:46 		The winner already starts with 20 more points than everybody else so I'm not sure how much else to reward them. We could up that another 10 perhaps. But they already on average get about 80 points for winning - this year being the exception due to not being the main event.

I think increasing the eliminations will help - because the guy that wins will also likely throw multiple people out.
 
41Greg Rude
      ID: 150282923
      Wed, Feb 06, 2013, 23:13 		I understand your points, Ryan.
 
42RJ
      ID: 5519710
      Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 11:09 		I wanna call up Mark Henry but I can't decide who to drop after Maddox's entertaining skit last night + Uso seems too valuable.
 
43Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 11:15 		At the risk of giving too much help, I'm pretty sure you can drop Uso and pick him back up off the waiver wire again any time before the end of the season.
 
44RJ
      ID: 5519710
      Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 11:54 		True, it's not like he's a big time keeper or anything.
 
45Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 13:02 		To put it bluntly, I have the worst team in the league by far and I wouldn't even consider claiming him.
 
46GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sat, Feb 09, 2013, 11:41 		Khali seems to get a squash win every week... he's only got 20 points less than Ryback and is 18th overall ahead of guys like Miz, Kofi.

So what contender wants to make him their 6th scorer for a mid round pick swap or younger talent who you can't keep?
 
47GO
      ID: 120252515
      Fri, Feb 22, 2013, 16:57 		Did anyone see WWE Main Event and can confirm that Big Show had separate matches or if it was a guantlet?
 
48RJ
      ID: 101382216
      Fri, Feb 22, 2013, 17:38 		http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5GbhaGdaA

This was the only clip I could find. I never saw anything mentioned as a gauntlet so I figured it was just separate matches.
 
49Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Feb 22, 2013, 22:54 		It looks to be 3 separate matches based on the WWE.com account.

Great week to be Zyre. Wiggs has Jack Swagger and Zyre has Big Show.
 
50GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 00:31
 
51Nailer
      ID: 176221620
      Sat, Feb 23, 2013, 14:44 		The WWE.com write-up has it at 4 matches for Big Show.
--The Usos (handicap match win)
--Brodus Clay (KO punch win)
--Great Khali (count-out win)
--The Miz (count-out loss)

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwemainevent/2013-02-20/results-26093306

Damn you, Z!
 
52Tree
      ID: 1910562515
      Sun, Feb 24, 2013, 09:58 		someone in this league just became a father.

congrats brother!
 
53GO
      ID: 210411222
      Sun, Feb 24, 2013, 12:50 		So if your scores are a few days behind... :)

Thanks
 
54Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Feb 24, 2013, 13:30 		Congrats GO. Very happy for you. I look forward to GO, Junior joining the league in 12 or so years.
 
55GO
      ID: 210411222
      Sun, Feb 24, 2013, 16:00 		Well his name is JR.... so... good ole JR!
 
56wiggs
      ID: 221138912
      Sun, Feb 24, 2013, 16:56 		congrats GO- had no idea.
 
57Greg Rude
      ID: 150282923
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 00:32 		Congrats Ryan! Another 'Great One' I will have the pleasure of battling with in the future ...
 
58Greg Rude
      ID: 150282923
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 00:33 		... and by the way, Tree's initial statement scared me ... I was like "AGAIN?? I'm always the last to know!" *Does Rude Dance*
 
59Nailer
      ID: 100372810
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 09:01 		Congrats, GO. Nothing better!
 
60RJ
      ID: 48151259
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 10:51 		I add my congrats as well to the Great One.
 
61RJ
      ID: 48151259
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 10:52 		I add my congrats as well to the Great One.
 
62GO
      ID: 210411222
      Mon, Feb 25, 2013, 12:32 		Tree, he can start training with fellow Delaware residents The Briscoes soon enough. The best tag team in all of wrestling! :)
 
63Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 05, 2013, 16:08 		I'm looking to move two 3rd round picks (mine and Zyre's) for a 2nd round pick and a 6th.

My 3rd round pick will be the first so you're basically getting the last 2nd round pick as it is. Move me up a few spots and I'll be satisfied.
 
64wiggs
      ID: 2520223
      Tue, Mar 05, 2013, 16:37 		Farn- i would be willing to do that- not sure i am the one you are looking to trade with
 
65Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 05, 2013, 16:40 		Yeah, if nobody else will trade I'll go with you wiggs. Right now you'd only move me up 1 spot so let's see if anyone else bites. Otherwise you'll have a good shot to regroup for another big run.
 
66GO
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, Mar 05, 2013, 16:44 		Remember the trade deadline has passed for this season... but there is definitely nothing stopping anyone from putting together trades involving draft picks only in advance (and then executing them during the draft).
 
67Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 05, 2013, 16:52 		Out of curiosity, if its draft picks only why does it matter when the trade is made? The point of the deadline is to preserve the end of the season. Draft pick trades don't alter the playoffs.
 
68RJ
      ID: 59218610
      Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 11:19 		Yes I got Zeb! One of the top talkers!
 
69GO
      ID: 120252515
      Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 11:26 		It doesn't really matter.
 
70Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 11:36 		Alright, well I've completed the trade. I can post it now or we can wait until the draft.
 
71GO
      ID: 120252515
      Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 12:01 		Put it in the transactions thread, note its for the next draft etc.
 
72Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 12:23 		Trade posted.

I now have all 5 of my picks in the top 14.
 
73GO
      ID: 120252515
      Mon, Mar 18, 2013, 14:58 		There is an extra week in these playoff rounds -- there are still 3 RAWs + 3 SD's before Wrestlemania. Not sure why Wrestlemania is so late this year... but this is good actually, cause gives the Finals an extra week vs. the semi-final. Not that anyone can catch Wiggs anyway at this point.
 
74Tree
      ID: 442482911
      Fri, Mar 29, 2013, 14:32 		sad day. Reid Flair, all of 24 years old, was found dead this morning, just after returning home from wrestling for All Japan.