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| Posted by: kev
- [3155515] Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 13:56
Im willing to part with Orton/O'Haire for a package of more consistant scorers coming back. I basically have 4 wrestlers getting me points, and I need more. |
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Donor
ID: 23715270
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 14:11
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I'd probably be interested-----I like Orton. Lance Storm/Zach Gowen for Orton?
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| | | 2 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 14:13
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O'Haire could be your 2nd since you'd have too many guys. Let me know bro.
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| | | 3 | Tree
Donor
ID: 11028719
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 15:38
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or Jimmy Yang and Spanky for Orton?
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| | | 4 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 7822711
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 15:49
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Shaniqua and Lawler/Stephanie/Rosie for Orton?
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| | | 5 | Great One
Donor
ID: 298341017
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 17:00
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I would like to take O'Haire off your hands at least. Don't neccessarily need Orton either. How about Torrie and Palumbo for O'Haire and somebody else?
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| | | 6 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 217351118
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 17:21
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OK, here's your most serious offer so far:
Vince and Rikishi for Orton and whoever you want. I'm not a fan of O'Haire so if there's anyone else on your team that you consider less valuable, let me know.
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| | | 7 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 7822711
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 17:29
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mith- how is your offer more serious? rikishi is useless so far. and vince has one match with taker; he won't wrestle again in subsequent matches. and he won't wrestle before Survivor Series. So he is a one night guy with a few interview points until then.
I would say your offer is on par with everyone elses.
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| | | 8 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:10
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Because Rikiski always carriers more weight. Pun intended.
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| | | 9 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:13
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Here is the problem- the only guy offered who is even getting airtime lately is Lance Storm.
Orton is a viable title contender, and will see a major push...
I want 2 guys involved in angles right now coming back.
Im trying to trade a top scorer for 2 consistant scorers....
I just want to put 6 guys on my team that might score points week in week out, not so many zero's
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| | | 10 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:19
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Tree, considering you have Maven, whom I wouldn't want in return, I'm thinking we could strike something up.
Is Chavo available?
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| | | 11 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:22
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Kev,
Take a look at my squad and tell me who you would want for O'Haire / Orton.
Cliff
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| | | 12 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 7822711
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:24
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kev, do the same with my roster.
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| | | 13 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 217351118
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:29
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Rikishi is a fan favorite, especially among kids and the bookers know it. He's had one match since his return, but his track record of frequent matches speaks for itself. He was the 46th ranked scorer with 280 points in season 1 - in spite of missing the last 7 weeks due to eye surgery, a sick mother and a contract dispute. That comes out to 11 points/week (not counting the time he missed). I see no reason why he shouldn't continue at close to that pace, especially since we offer more points for losses this year.
Vince was the 38th total season 1 scorer with 368 total points, also getting a rate of 11 points/week counting every week. Interestingly, this season Vince is considerably outpacing himself from last season, with 145 points after 10 weeks, and he is sure to improve on that rate considerably next weekend in what is almost certainly going to be a win at Survivor Series. Vince is such an egomaniac that he has made himself a PPV fixture. When was the last Smackdown PPV in which Vince didn't have a match?
By comparison, Orton, who missed 8 weeks due to injury, averaged 21 points/week only not counting the time he was away. He has remained steady at that pace this year, showing 211 in 10 weeks.
KEV
At Vince's current pace of 14/game, Rikishi only needs to avg 6/game to just meet the production of Orton + O'Haire. But if you prefer, I could do Vince/Ryan Sakoda.
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| | | 14 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 18:40
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MITH's trade doesnt bother me with Rikishi returning....Vince would give me 4 non wrestlers, who usually show up at least...which is more than I can say for the rest of my team.
I am just on my way out the door, but I will look at some of the people I am interested in when I get back.
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| | | 15 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 19:04
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kev, I'd certainly consider Jazz in place of Gowen, though she scored a ton of points last year and will come back big again this year----very soon. Out of Moore/Holly/Gowen, figured the one legged dude was the one with the highest point potential.
Let me know. And Rikishi is still fat.
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| | | 16 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 19:39
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And Rikishi has been told to lose weight.
Cliff
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| | | 17 | Tree
Donor
ID: 11028719
Sat, Nov 08, 2003, 23:14
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kev - shoot me an email with your idea....
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| | | 18 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Sun, Nov 09, 2003, 20:20
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kev, i would be interested in orton, depending on the price.
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| | | 19 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 09:12
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Lol---Kev came here, stirred up some action, and ditched us! What a heel.
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| | | 20 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 09:34
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OK Kev, I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to have to sweeten it some more.
Trish Stratus & Rikishi for Orton & O'Haire.
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| | | 21 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 09:38
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Not if he doesn't come back----LMAO!
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| | | 22 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 7822711
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 09:53
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mith- i think he only wanted to trade 1 guy and get 2 in return, thus giving him a 5th scorer. so giving you 2 and getting 2 in return wouldn't solve that problem.
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| | | 23 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 10:33
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O'Haire is someone that you would call a scorer? I'll let Kev clear up exactly what he meant.
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| | | 24 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 13:37
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I want 2 scorers NOW for what is really one scorer in Orton, then one future (maybe) scorer in O'Haire.
MITH's offer looks mighty good right now...
And I apologize I wasn't around yesterday- football, other stuff...
If anyone has an offer they think that can beat MITH's, you have till tommorow to post it, or I will be taking MITH's offer.
This seems the best way to do things.
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| | | 25 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 13:52
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Kev, once again, email me with your thoughts...
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| | | 26 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 13:55
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victoria and shaniqua?
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| | | 27 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:26
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Kev, I am still here too, let me know what you are thinking if anything from my team. I would love to have batista and orton.
Maybe Stacy and Flair?
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| | | 28 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:32
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wiggs, Cade would have to be in the deal for it to even come close to being what MITH has offered.
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| | | 29 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:34
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kev, just let me know if Storm and Jazz will do it. If not, I would consider Tajiri and someone else, but Tajiri and Storm is probably too much.
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| | | 30 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:37
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Mike- Tajiri and Jazz is considerable...if that is the offer, let me think about it....it's right up there with MITH's
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| | | 31 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:37
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you rather cade and stacy?
I Didnt see MITHs offer as that great, Rikishi doesnt impress me at all.
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| | | 32 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:38
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kev, consider it proposed.
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| | | 33 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:41
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Wiggs- Trish is always involved in some match/storyline....with the Jericho thing going on, she will be involved for awhile yet. Rikishi is what I consider to be the 2nd wrestler. If he shows up, he is doing more than O'Haire.
Mike D- Thanks...Once again, Tajiri is the major factor in why I might take that trade...
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| | | 34 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:45
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kev, what about the stacy Cade for orton? Also if you dont like that, you tell me what you like from my team to push me over?
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| | | 35 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:46
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He’s outscored Orton so far this season, which I’m sure you noticed (thanks again Tree). Makes me wonder why I’m even offering it. Other than my out of hand trading addiction, of course.
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| | | 36 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:47
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Who is Stacy Cade?
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| | | 37 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:48
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sorry Mike D, Stacy/cade.
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| | | 38 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:54
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Alright, to clear things up, the 3 trades I am considering right now are- in no particular order
Tajiri/Jazz
Cade/Keiber
Trish/Rikishi
I just have to look up some info on Jazz and Rikishi.
Like I said, tommorow I will make a decision.
In those 3 trades I have been offered a title holder (Tajiri), a guy recieving a huge push (Cade), and 2 big huge fake boobs that show up all the time (Trish)
All new offers should be close to the 3 above.
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| | | 39 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:55
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Lol wiggs. Kev, great analyzation there.
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| | | 40 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 14:58
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Wiggs and others,
Maybe I'm a little overly sensitive here and if so I'll note it, but I don't believe it to be fair to criticize competetors' offers in a situation like this. When I researched post 13, it was originally intended as a response to Farn's #7, and included at the end an offer to run similar point comparisons of the wrestlers he had offered up to that point. I thought better of it because I felt it wouldn't be fair to potentially sabatoge his or anyone else's offer by making them look at all unappealing. Kev is perfectly able to decide what he wants for himself. It's one thing to talk up or support you own offer or players with stats, trends, rumors, speculation and what-have-you, but IMO, when you start talking down other peoples' offers, you cross a line.
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| | | 41 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:02
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Mith, it wasnt meant as an insult to you. I was only saying that I thought flair was a better offer then rikishi and when he said he didnt want that deal i was defending my offer. So what i am saying is I was trying to defend myself rather then cut you down, but if it offended you then i apologize.
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| | | 42 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 149272511
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:04
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Okay, I'd like to have a shot at this, but would like to know which two of the group I have you would be interested in.
Doug Basham
D'Von Dudley
A-Train
Renee Dupree
Cliff
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| | | 43 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:07
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I didn't say that I was insulted or offended. My issue is that when you compare your own or someone else's offer with one that you say is somehow inferior, then you cross a line. My feelings are not hurt, nor are they the issue. But I don't need anyone publicly judging my offer.
Like I said, if most people feel this is overly sensitive and that we should be ale to say what we want, then I'll retract all this.
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| | | 44 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:11
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MITH, all i am saying is i apologize. I didnt mean to step on any toes.
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| | | 45 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:14
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MITH, I agree. My comments about Rikishi being fat were part attempted humor and other part stating an obvious fact. I tried not to "cross the line" and agree that shouldn't be done.
Everyone can call their offer the best, that's ok, as we expect that. Wouldn't want to put down other people's players/offers.
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| | | 46 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:17
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It wasn't just you, wiggs. Sorry if that comes across as whiney. I just felt that I would have been out of line if I started posting negative things about other peoples' offers.
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| | | 47 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:19
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wow, offers are getting heavy now.
I should open a thread about 2 of my wrestlers and see if I can get some deals...
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| | | 48 | kev
ID: 3155515
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:22
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Cliff
Basham/ATrain would get you into the running, even though they are both SD brand.
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| | | 49 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 149272511
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 15:27
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OK,
Offer
Basham/A-Train for Orton/O'Haire.
Cliff
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| | | 50 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 41831612
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 16:00
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Farn, where's your thread? Want Tajiri/Jazz? Wiggs, I'd certainly be interested in getting MY Kurt Angle back. ;)
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| | | 51 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 16:31
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Mike D, no one on my team is untradable. LEt me know what you are thinking.
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| | | 52 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 19:57
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Well h*ll, I have Tajiri and Jazz out to kev, so they may as well be on the table to you too. Angle? Farn, Eddie?
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| | | 53 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:18
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mike D, i will pass on that offer. Sorry.
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| | | 54 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:19
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nah, i would rather keep eddie.
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| | | 55 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:31
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I assume the counters were e-mailed.......
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| | | 56 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:32
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Mike D- i didn't send a counter because if you were looking for Eddie in return for those 2 I problem don't have much to offer you. But let me take a look at your roster.
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Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:37
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Mike D- I am not sure I want to give up Eddie or Show for Tajiri. And I don't think anyone else on my roster is worthy of that trade at this point.
I have interest in Kane though. Anyone you would want in return?
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| | | 58 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:37
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Sure. Eddie.
Lol!
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| | | 59 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:39
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hahahaha. i love it.
i was hoping to say i traded with the greatest trader in the history of this site. but apparently my team is as bad as i thought with only eddie having any value.
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| | | 60 | Great One
Donor
ID: 298341017
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:42
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I am willing to trade with anybody, anybody I have, at any time. Email me if you have interest in anyone on my team.
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| | | 61 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:44
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LMAO!
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| | | 62 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 20:48
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Mike D, I am looking at a possible 2 for 2 with kane, RVD for angle and someone.
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| | | 63 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 21:13
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Interesting. That 2nd guy would have to pretty good though, eh? RVD is 3rd in points. Tajiri is 7th. Kane is Kane. ;)
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| | | 64 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 00:12
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I always get confused about our rosters----do they expire on Saturday each week? Or Sunday? Cuz' that may impact my trade offer.
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| | | 65 | mIST
ID: 5351150
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 03:26
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Offer: Mark Henry + John Heidenreich for Orton + O'Haire.
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| | | 66 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 09:43
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Can anyone help with my question in 64? Sorry, but it has always confused me.
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| | | 67 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 60151121
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:04
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When we have a pay per view and set our roster on Sat, it is valid for Sun, so I would say that it runs from Sun to Sat.
Cliff
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| | | 68 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:14
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i always thought it ran monday-->sunday.
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| | | 69 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:25
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i thought monday through sunday too.
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| | | 70 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 4991311
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:28
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according to this post
rules
it is saturday night at 1150. so i guess that means sunday through saturday.
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| | | 71 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:34
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Confusing stuff. We'll blame it on the Hen.
Thanks guys. kev, if my deal is the one you pick, I'd probably want Tajiri's PPV match for 11/16----but, we could make the deal effective the following week, even if it was consumated today. Let me know bro.
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Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:37
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Obviously, that's a rule that we've enforced very leniently, if at all. I know that I usually wait until Sunday to set my roster and I don't believe I'm usually the last one to do so.
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| | | 73 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:39
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True MITH. Not a big deal under normal circumstances, but with a possible trade in the works (for a few of us), it becomes key.
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| | | 74 | Farn
Sustainer
ID: 451044109
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 10:51
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maybe we could get blue hen to rule on this. he was always so keen on the rules of this league.
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| | | 75 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 11:14
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Blue Hen is too busy explaining why he's called Blue Hen...it's because his preferred feminine name, Blue Bitch, was a bit to risque for the Rotoboard censors.
seriously, the 11:50 saturday night time was set because saying midnight saturday seemed to confuse people.
for all intents and purposes, the "active week" runs from sunday to saturday, meaning that if there's a PPV, those are the first points scored in the week...hopefully that clarifies a bit...
i.e. PPV, Raw, Smackdown....*NOT* Raw, Smackdown, PPV.
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| | | 76 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 11:43
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Yup. Thanks a lot.
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| | | 77 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:00
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So if I accept a trade today, PPV points for Orton will be mine or the other guys?
It's important, because the trade I am going to take has no PPV people.
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| | | 78 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:02
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That would depend on the stips you work out with whoever you are trading with. I'll tell you that if you are considering dealing with me I am happy to make the deal official at the time that is most convenient for you.
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| | | 79 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:09
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Agree with MITH----depends on the stips you agree to with your trading partner. Shouldn't be hard, but needs to be done, nonetheless.
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| | | 80 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:18
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hey, i'm game for whatever your parameters are on our trade, Kev...:o)
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| | | 81 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:20
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Did you offer the girl with the big boobs? That's always persuasive.
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| | | 82 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:24
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After trying to figure out who is going where, and what brand, Raw or Smackdown I could use some help on, and what kind of guy I want on my team, I have decided to take Wiggs trade of Garrison Cade and Stacy Keibler.
I would like this trade to happen after the PPV, but before RAW, if it is okay with Wiggs....
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| | | 83 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:28
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Interesting. Good to see this didn't drag on, at least. Props on that kev.
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ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:31
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Reasoning....
Once the Cade/Keibler and Tajiri/Jazz trades came in, they were the 2 I was debating between.
I took Cade/Keibler just based on Cade's future with the company. I hope to hold onto him. Keibler has always been my favourite chick, so that helped too. Even with Test out, she should find a place on TV.
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| | | 85 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:33
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.......and in your heart. ;)
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| | | 86 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 3310211114
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:35
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so wait, if I accept this offer I would lose the points out of Orton at the PPV and I would lose any points out of keibler and cade on Raw?
Also, Kev, who will you be waiving in this deal, since it is 2 for 1?
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| | | 87 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:37
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The week begins Sunday, so your statement would not be correct wiggs.
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| | | 88 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:38
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you are recieving O'Haire as well
Wiggs- you will also be gaining Orton's points on Raw...
But it is a stipulation we can discuss. I can't see it being worthwhile to put this trade through this week. But I am willing to do whatever the rules stipulate.
Looking at the rules, it looks like the week starts beginning on Sunday....
If no mid week trades are allowed, then I will give over Orton for the PPV.
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| | | 89 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 3310211114
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:48
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oh ok kev, i misunderstood, I thought you had said you wanted to hold Ohaire for a later trade.
Give me a little bit to make sure this is what i want to do. I have a few things that I have read that are making me reconsider. I will let you know later tonight.
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| | | 90 | Mattinglyinthehall
Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:04
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WOW
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| | | 91 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:07
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I thought it was either you or me here MITH. I bet you did too. kev pulled a fast one on us.
Damn heels. ;)
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| | | 92 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 5110201115
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:23
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Kev, I will accept your deal. My thoughts were that Cade should be getting a huge push, possibly a title shot in the near future, but It will be great to have 3 of the 4 members of evolution.
Its a done deal.
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| | | 93 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:28
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wiggs hit it on the head...
While Rikishi is a fan favourite, I doubt you will see any push for him with how his contract situation was handled, and with the eye surgery. Trish is a great commodity, but from all I have read, Cade is going to get a big big push. I also read of a turn in the near future, and title belts. All this led me to take him.
I felt out of all the wrestlers named, Cade would come the closest to Orton in points, and Stacey should give me promo points most weeks.
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Sustainer
ID: 1629107
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:34
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I think Wiggs just won this season, hands down, even if Angle really is done. Goldberg, Batista, Flair and now Orton for two of his three lowest scorers thus far. If the Angle rumor turns out to be false, his keeper situation will be pretty unstoppable, too, assuming Goldberg remains his top scorer.
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| | | 96 | wiggs
Donor
ID: 5110201115
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 16:37
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mike D, would you mind emailing me what you heard about angle?
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| | | 97 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:19
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man, and i offered Chavo and Yang...somehow that doesn't equate to Cade and Stacey...hmmmm...
also, to clarify something said earlier:
I would like this trade to happen after the PPV, but before RAW, if it is okay with Wiggs....
can't be done. the wrestler can only be active for one team for that week. you choose him saturday night, he's yours all week.
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| | | 98 | Mike D
Donor
ID: 23715270
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:37
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I think they got that last part ironed out, Mr. Tree, of the Ying/Yang offer.
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| | | 99 | Mattinglyinthehall
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Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 17:51
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I wouldn't question Kev's reasoning. We all have differing ideas regarding plot directions and weretlers' potential and values. Personally, I think Basham/A Train was by far the best offer on the table, so good in fact that I think it proably would have been to much to hand over for Orton/O'Haire.
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| | | 100 | GoatLocker
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Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 18:34
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I felt it might be too much, but in this case both Orton and O'Haire were next on my queue at the time that Kev took them.
I'm perfectly content to stick with Basham and A-Train.
Was just looking at moving one of my tag team bodies.
Cliff
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| | | 101 | Mattinglyinthehall
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ID: 217351118
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 18:40
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I wouldn't question anyone's judgement on these matters, as there is little evidence to show that the actual talent of the wrestlers is any more of an indicator of their potential success than the nonsensical whims of management. If there was, and Rikishi Kevin Nash would have spent the last 3 years selling used cars and Stevie Richards and Tommy Dreamer would be solid midcarders.
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| | | 102 | kev
ID: 3155515
Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 19:33
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Tree- I just don't have faith in Chavo...at all. Plus, I needed a Raw figure on my team.
I really think Cade will perform great...I thought he was the best wrestler on the table. He is already getting a push.
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