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Subject: Season 3 Waiver Thread

  Posted by: Farn - Sustainer [451044109] Sat, Mar 27, 2004, 10:20
All Waiver clamis require a 24 waiting period.

This is in reverse order of the draft.

Waiver Priority Order:

1. Wiggs
2. Tree
3. Farn
4. Species
5. MITH
6. Mike D
7. Goatlocker
8. Young Gunz
9. Kev
10. Great One
 
11wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Tue, Mar 30, 2004, 12:14 		Claim Mick Foley
Drop Shane-o-mac

Since I have number 1 priority this claim is official.

New Roster for Roling Suckas

RVD
Angle
Orton
Rey
Booker
Grenier
Foley
Jeff HArdy

New Waiver Priority.

1. Tree
2. Farn
3. Species
4. MITH
5. Mike D
6. Goatlocker
7. Young Gunz
8. Kev
9. Great One
10. Wiggs
 
13Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Tue, Apr 06, 2004, 13:44 		Waive: Travis Bane
Claim: Kenzo Suzuki
 
14Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Wed, Apr 07, 2004, 20:43 		Claim official.

Flying Jalapenos new roster:
Benjamin
Bradshaw
Trish
Rikishi
Vince
Chuck Palumbo
Matt Morgan
Kenzo Suzuki

New Waiver Prioroty:
1. Tree
2. Farn
3. Species
4. Mike D
5. Goatlocker
6. Young Gunz
7. Kev
8. Great One
9. Wiggs
10. MITH
 
15Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Apr 07, 2004, 20:50 		MITH- make sure you post this in the official transaction thread that's a few posts down.
 
16Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Apr 07, 2004, 22:42 		Waive: Stephen Richards
Claim: William Regal

(I won't be here at this time tomorrow to make it official so if Tree doesn't want to give up the coveted #1 spot can somebody make it offical for me?)
 
17Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Thu, Apr 08, 2004, 09:53 		Will do.
 
18wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Thu, Apr 08, 2004, 23:26 		farns claim is official.
 
19wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Thu, Apr 08, 2004, 23:28 		New Roster for Farn

Show
Molly
Victoria
Spike
Kane
Conway
Rico
Regal

New Priority


1. Tree
2. Species
3. Mike D
4. Goatlocker
5. Young Gunz
6. Kev
7. Great One
8. Wiggs
9. MITH
10. Farn
 
20wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Tue, Apr 13, 2004, 23:00 		add brian Christopher
waive jeff hardy
 
21Tree
      ID: 523431321
      Tue, Apr 13, 2004, 23:52 		waive Paul London
add Brian Christopher
 
22wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 05:55 		trees claim is official.

Tree
Chavo
Danny Basham
Buh Buh
Maven
HBK
Jimmy Yang
Brian Christopher
Nick Dinsmore


New Priority



1. Species
2. Mike D
3. Goatlocker
4. Young Gunz
5. Kev
6. Great One
7. Wiggs
8. MITH
9. Farn
10. Tree
 
23Tree
      ID: 523431321
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 07:05 		sorry Wiggs - i hate to do that to you, but:
1. i just couldn't let someone with that low of a waiver claim pick up someone who quite possibly could be a regular tv guy.
2. you picked up free agent Pete Wilson in a baseball league before i could. :o)

p.s. thanks for the waiver update. i was so tired last night...
 
24Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 10:46 		If you're talking about Rotoyakl, I think you mean Paul Wilson, and I was the one who picked him up. As a Mets fan, you should know who he is. He's the former Amazin's prodigy that came up with Bill Pulsipher and Jason Isringhausen who, together with the other two, was supposed to shore up the rotation in Shea for years to come. I can understand why he's easy to forget, however. He ended up the same way as most Mets prodigies.

:)
 
25wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 12:03 		There were 4 of the "supposed to be the future of the mets pitchers"
Paul Wilson
Izzy
Bobby Jones (the white one)
and Pulsipher

They all played in Binghamton and I had season tickets. they were alot of fun to watch, but the mets didnt know what they had. OR atleast didnt know how to develope them correctly.
 
26Tree
      Donor
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 13:20 		i actually did mean Paul Wilson (it was early!) and i think i was talking about another league...
drop: Yang
pick up: Seven

 
27wiggs
      Donor
      ID: 4991311
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 16:34 		drop jeff hardy
add 7
 
28Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Apr 14, 2004, 18:28 		Screw y'all:

Drop: The Rock
Claim: Seven

New roster:

Christian
Matt Hardy, Version 1.0
Scotty 2 Hotty
Scott Steiner
The Undertaker
Eric Bischoff
Mark Jindrak
Seven

New waiver priority:
1. Mike D
2. Goatlocker
3. Young Gunz
4. Kev
5. Great One
6. Wiggs
7. MITH
8. Farn
9. Tree
10. Species
 
29Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Fri, Apr 16, 2004, 12:57 		More official roster for Endangered:

Christian
Matt Hardy, Version 1.0
Scotty 2 Hotty
Scott Steiner
The Undertaker
Eric Bischoff
Mark Jindrak
Mordecai aka Seven
 
30Tree
      ID: 41301721
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:19 		drop: Paul London
add: Travis Bane
 
31Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:19 		Waive Suzuki
Claim Bane
 
32Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:20 		Sweet jeezis what a big dumb stupid idiot i am.
 
33wiggs
      ID: 63301420
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:20 		drop hardy
claim bane
 
34Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:24 		stupidstupidstupid
 
35Tree
      ID: 41301721
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:30 		lol you're telling me MITH..i mean, i DRAFTED BANE (who they are calling Tyson Tomko, how silly - Travis Tomko, his real name, sounds so much better) and i've been waiting for him to come up, and i blow my number one waiver slot on Grandmaster Sexay...ARGHHHHHHHHHH

two guys i've been waiting for - Seven and Bane both come up in consecutive weeks..arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
36Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:44 		Actually, I drafted him in season 4. And waived him 2 weeks ago for Kenzo Suzuki. Watch Matt Morgan follow Brock to the NFL or some stupid such now.
 
37Tree
      ID: 41301721
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 21:55 		Matt Morgan is the OVW Champion right now. i don't think you'll see him up in the WWE for quite some time...
 
38Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 22:41 		F-that. I could guarantee his appearance on SD or Raw in two weeks by dropping him right now for Jim Duggan.
 
39Tree
      ID: 41301721
      Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 22:56 		well, why don't you drop Suzuki...although he might be the "Hirohito" guy i just saw advertised...
 
40GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 60151121
      Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 00:18 		Waive Farouq
Claim Bane
 
41kev
      ID: 3155515
      Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 05:05 		Claim Bane
Drop The big ass Billy Gunn
 
42Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 06:52 		Waive Orlando Jordan
Claim Travis Bane

This Is Extreme (new roster)

HHH
Y2J
Hardcore Holly
Jazz
Lance Storm
Torrie Wilson
Travis Bane
Goldberg


New waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Kev
4. Great One
5. Wiggs
6. MITH
7. Farn
8. Tree
9. Species
10. Mike D
 
43GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 60151121
      Tue, Apr 20, 2004, 14:46 		Mike D was the only one could lock me out and he did it.
Guess I can just set and wait now for the next big move.

Cliff
 
44kev
      ID: 3155515
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 20:18 		I guess with Cade, this makes some sort of sense.

Claim
Coach

Drop
Billy Gunn
 
45kev
      ID: 3155515
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 20:19 		sorry

Drop Billy Kidman instead of Gunn

(error)
 
46Mike D
      ID: 43252520
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 21:00 		I'll trade ya Lance Storm for Kidman, then you can waive Storm for Coach if you want.
 
47Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 21:26 		great idea Mike.

How close are we following rules though? Can he pull back a claim, make a trade, and then make a new claim? Or are claims official once listed? Not sure we have ever finalized something like that.
 
48Mike D
      ID: 43252520
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 21:34 		It pends for 24 hours, so I think he has flexibility at any time during that period. Obviously, he can be trumped by another GM, so why not voluntarily witdraw?
 
49Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, May 03, 2004, 21:40 		But lets say someone decides to claim John Smith. he waits 23hrs, then lets him go. So somebody else claims him. first manager waits 23hrs, then puts a new claim in. Could be a bad cycle of immoral blocking.

What do real sports do with a waiver wire? I am not too aware of those rules. I know Yahoo lets you pull claims back but they aren't exactly the greatest example of perfection.
 
50Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 07:18 		Is this collusion? At the very least, Kev is agreeing to help out Mike D and get nothing in return.
 
51Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 08:09 		Not true. He gets Coach, via Lance Storm, via Kidman. Hey, if it's questionable, I'll withdraw it. Plus the fact that kev ain't gonna do it anyway.
 
52Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 08:45 		Well, if it's collusion, it's definitely questionable. I don't know if it's collusion, though I think it might be. See, Kev can claim Coach whether he is waiving Storm or Kidman and it makes no difference. Either way, Goatlocker or Young Gunz can stop him. As a matter of fact, if you want to get down to the nuts and bolts of it, this deal makes it more difficult for him if anything, since Goatlocker or YG might conceivably be interested in Kidman (and thus be more likely to want to see this claim go through), but I doubt anyone wants Storm.

Mike D on the other hand has the last waiver priority and would have an opportunity to move Storm for someone who is otherwise about to become a free agent without having to worry about someone with a better waiver priority stepping in.

Perhaps it should be brought to the gurupie collective.
 
53Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 08:46 		Doesn't appear necessary since kev hasn't accepted, and I've withdrawn the offer. Unless you are talking long term issue. But still, each incident would probably be isolated (like any trade) and would need to be looked at that way.

Good discussion and points though. FWIW, I never expected it to be accepted.
 
54Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 08:51 		Well we should certainly establish whether this kind of deal is allowed, it doesn't seem like the conditions for beiong able to use this sort of strategy to one's advantage are at all rare.
 
55Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 08:56 		Conditions, yes, but the people involved will change. For instance, if you change Storm to Orlando Jordan. Or to Jeff Hardy. Or to Jim Ross. In each case the thought process is different, IMHO.

Maybe the issue Farn raised about withdrawing a waiver claim once made.
 
56Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 09:14 		There have been many, many times people in the league have found that a wrestler on their team has become useless. They retire or get injured for a long period of time or often they are a short term pickup or they might just disappear. A quick check at the Since Season 1 final results shows that there are many names that come up.

D'Lo Brown, Bull Buchanon, Nathan Jones, Rodney Mack, Shane MacMahon, Stephanie, Jeff Hardy, Jacqueline, Farooq, Shaniqua, TE Matt, TE John, Hawk, Animal, Zach Gowan, Crash Holly, Hulk Hogan, Roddy Piper, Raven, Goldust and Jamal were all on someone's roster at some point. I venture to guess that if you had any (or almost any) one of these names on your roster instead of Storm, the same strategy would serve you just as well, just as it would have when anyone who owned any wrestler they found was now useless and could be dropped.

As far as that other issue is concerned, I don't really get it. What is 'immoral blocking' and how would someone unfairly use it?
 
57Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 11:32 		A trade is typically defined as an exchange of value for value. I see no value going kev's way in an exchange like this.

However, if he says he's waiving Kidman and Mike D offers something of value that he's going to keep or use, then that's another thing altogether. One man's garbage is another man's treasure....so I see no issue with trying to trade for someone's waived wrestler - just not in a scenario like this.

I don't think Mike D purposely was being underhanded, but in hindsight IMO it does kind of go around the waiver process.
 
58Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 11:36 		Agreed, Species, I did not intend in anyway to suggest any kind of under-handedness on anyone's part. It's simply a matter that falls under a grey area of sorts.
 
59Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 11:50 		Well said guys. After the points were made, I withdrew because I could certainly see "the other side" of the whole thing. I'll live to trade another day...... ;)
 
60Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 12:27 		I talked about trading my waiver priority previously - and that would essentially be the same thing.
 
61Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 12:55 		Drop: Lance Storm
Claim: Nunzio
 
62Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 12:57 		See, I think is is all stuff we should try to define.

1. We need to decide whether waiver claims can be pulled back.
2. Can you make an offer to someone like Mike D did where clearly its not value for value? We just need to clear that up because we really don't have a veto rule.
3. Can you trade your waiver priority? For a wrestler? For a draft pick? For a night with someone's sister?
 
63Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:05 		Lol. We do have a veto rule in that the league will certainly oversee things, as above. Trading waiver priority probably calls for a new thread, especially if someone's sister is involved.
 
64Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:12 		I don't see any problem with pulling back a claim. Here's the only potential issue I see (I'll use Mike D's waiver claim of Nunzio):
If someone (we'll say its me) really wanted to be a prick about it, I could wait until 11:55 tomorrow and claim Nunzio to block Mike D, then at 10:55 on Thursday drop my claim. This would effectively block Mike D from taking Nunzio and I wouldn't be burdened with a waiver claim that I don't want. Really, I cannot see anyone in this group pulling something like that (which I believe would be underhanded). But if anyone feels that we need a failsafe, we could make a rule that says that if a blocking waiver claim gets pulled back, the most recently blocked person gets a right of refusal, so long as it has been at least 24 hours since his claim.

So lets say I block Mike D, then pull back my claim on Thursday like I said, at the time that I pull it back, Mike D may now add Nunzio to his team if he still chooses to do so, effective immediately.

I don't see any negative side effects from enacting such a rule (except that its a little confusing), but I'm really not sure that we need it. This league isn't so cutthroat.
 
65Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:15 		1 - I see no reason a waiver claim can't be withdrawn in the 24 hour timeframe.

2 - Tough call on vetoing trades. I would imagine a majority could veto, but as you point out it's never been defined.

3 - I would like to see waiver priority trading - there is indeed value there. With the recent call ups of fairly significant up-and-comers like Seven (Mordecai) and the "Problem Solver" Bane/Tomko, waiver priority has meant something early on. For example, if Mike D had a higher waiver priority than kev, why couldn't Mike D trade waiver priorities in exchange for Kidman -- thus giving kev a greater chance at his claim on Coach? I like the idea.
 
66Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:20 		2. Can you make an offer to someone like Mike D did where clearly its not value for value? We just need to clear that up because we really don't have a veto rule.

I really think that agreeing to a trade that is designed to help out another league member with no discernable benefit to yourself amounts to collusion. The golden rule of fantasy sports is that collusion is not allowed, so I don't think this really needs to be clarified. It shouldn't be allowed.


3. Can you trade your waiver priority? For a wrestler? For a draft pick? For a night with someone's sister?

Perhaps Great One or some can dig up the previous discussion in which this was brought up. If this topic has already been breached, we should see what issues were addressed at that time.
 
67Tree
      Donor
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:27 		3. Can you trade your waiver priority? For a wrestler? For a draft pick? For a night with someone's sister?

Perhaps Great One or some can dig up the previous discussion in which this was brought up. If this topic has already been breached, we should see what issues were addressed at that time.

i really don't like this at all. as someone who doesn't have a sister (i do have four younger brothers though), i think this might put me at a decided disadvantage.
 
68Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:34 		It looks to me like the waiver trading thing should probably be brought to a vote, but I'd like to see what has already been discussed on the issue.
 
69Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:51 		"the most recently blocked person gets a right of refusal, so long as it has been at least 24 hours since his claim."

MITH, well said. This is actually what I had THOUGHT would happen all along. Guess I was ahead of myself. And the waiver trading probably does need its own thread.
 
70Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 13:56 		I don't think it was ever discussed at length because I couldn't seem to get anyone to "trade" for my waiver priority. There weren't as many new guys rolling off the conveyor belt at the end of last season and no one wanted to add anyone before declaring keepers I guess.

I think it would be a great idea. Just like trading draft picks. But it would still be good to include a swap of two player ala the Lance Storm situation to keep rosters evened out til you pick that person up you want.

And would you swap waiver order entirely OR just acquire their spot while still maintaining your 7th or 6th waiver priority? Another question...

something like

Lance Storm
1st Waiver Spot
traded for
Kidman
6th Waiver Spot

No one is obviously just going to swap waiver priority without others involved, so i guess that would have to be the format.
 
71Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 14:03 		Actually Mike D, that isn't a league rule. Just my suggestion for a way to prevent 'immoral blocking'. Personally, I'm not so sure it's necessary, since I don't believe anyone in this league plays cutthroat enough for us to enact such a rule. But if anyone wants to propose it, by all means do so. I supose I'd vote yes unless someone came up with a good argument against it.
 
72Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 14:05 		If anyone likes the idea of waiver trading, you should put it to a vote.
 
73Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 14:14 		MITH, got it. I had felt it would happen that way, but now that you say it and now that I try to remember, it's just another thing that was never ironed out. It makes sense that what you said would occur, so I'd hope we'd follow that logic.....
 
74Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, May 04, 2004, 14:50 		I put it to a vote.

GO #70 - I personally don't like the idea of completely acquiring a waiver spot - doesn't that leave the other team with NO capability of putting in a claim? And I don't think creating an 11th position for waivers for that team works either. Thus, I made my proposal to read that you must trade one waiver position for another.
 
75Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 09:15 		Drop: Lance Storm
Claim: Jacqueline
 
76Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 09:34 		Drop: Vince MacMahon
Claim: TE Matt (Matt Cappatelli)
 
77Tree
      Donor
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:20 		drop: Jimmy Yang
claim: Jacqueline
 
78Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:26 		(From Post 65)

Drop: Lance Storm
Claim: Nunzio

Will this pass through at 12:55, since my most recent claim has been trumped? Seems to make sense.
 
79Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:31 		Mike D - Not sure if I understand the question. Since your claim has been trumped by a higher priority, in my view your old claim simply disappears.

Your new claim is a separate transaction and IMO is subject to it's own 24-hour period.

Opposing thoughts?
 
80Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:32 		I wouldn't worry.. I don't think there is a race to pick up Little Guido :)
 
81Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:34 		Ohhhhhhhh........you meant post #61's claim.

IMO, once you pulled back your claim in #61 to put an alternate claim in post #75, your claim in #61 is wiped clean.....but I'm open to discussion.
 
82Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:35 		Agreed, Species. New claim is a seperate transaction.
 
83Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 12:44 		Yeah, I meant 61. Based on my spiritual advisor Great One's imput, I'll agree to let the clock start again.
 
84Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 13:56 		I should claim Nunzio now. :)
 
85Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 15:13 		You'd only want to trade him, GO.....why bother? ;-)
 
86Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 15:16 		So he can trade him. That's the point. ;)
 
87Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Wed, May 05, 2004, 15:53 		Nunzio is on my never again list like Derrick Coleman.
 
88kev
      ID: 3155515
      Thu, May 06, 2004, 00:24 		David Boston is on my never again list.

If j o s h is lurking here, he will have a quip, I'm sure
 
89Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 07:03 		Three claims now official. After kev, me, Tree and Mike D all make successful claims here is the new waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Wiggs
5. Farn
6. Species
7. Kev
8. MITH
9. Tree
10. Mike D

Guys please post your new rosters here and make not of the change in the transaction thread.

MITH's new roster:
Trish Stratus
Rikishi
Shelton Benjamin
Bradshaw
Chuck Pulumbo
Kenzo Suzuki
TE Matt
Matt Morgan
 
90Tree
      ID: 43410619
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 07:05 		Tree's new roster:

Chavo
Danny Basham
Buh Buh
Maven
HBK
Jacqueline
Brian Christopher
Nick Dinsmore
 
91Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 08:53 		This Is Extreme

HHH
Eddie Guerrero
Hardcore Holly
Jazz
Torrie Wilson
Nidia
Nunzio
Goldberg
 
92kev
      ID: 3155515
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 14:55 		kev's new roster

Cade
Coach
Billy Gunn
Keibler
Chris Benoit
Lita
Hurricane
Rosey
 
93Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 19:43 		waive: Palumbo
claim: Luther Rains
 
94Tree
      ID: 43410619
      Fri, May 07, 2004, 20:47 		hmmmm..i wonder if that's what they're going to call Horshu when he gets the call. yet another guy i picked up waaaaaaay too soon...
 
95Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, May 10, 2004, 07:03 		Claim official. New waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Wiggs
5. Farn
6. Species
7. Kev
8. Tree
9. Mike D
10. MITH


MITH's new roster:
Trish Stratus
Rikishi
Shelton Benjamin
Bradshaw
Luther Rains
Kenzo Suzuki
TE Matt
Matt Morgan

 
96Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Mon, May 10, 2004, 10:18 		BTW, Rains is the guy that has been pushing Angle around in the wheelchair.
 
97Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, May 10, 2004, 10:26 		In the show "The Pretender," Mr. Rains was the guy in the wheelchair.
 
98wiggs
      ID: 63301420
      Fri, May 14, 2004, 23:13 		claim Konnan
waive Foley
 
99Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 18:27 		claim Kidman
waive Nunzio
 
100Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 19:32 		Claim Chavo Sr
Waive Rikishi
 
101Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 19:34 		claim Dawn Marie
waive Nunzio
 
102Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 19:36 		So now you're not claiming Kidman?
 
103Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 19:40 		He's too male for my team of hotties.
 
104Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sat, May 15, 2004, 19:41 		WTH, I'll stick with my first claim..........see, this is where I wish I could have multiple pending claims. Oh well.

Claim Kidman
Drop Nunzio
 
105Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Sun, May 16, 2004, 10:48 		Is there a rule against multiple pending claims?
 
106Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sun, May 16, 2004, 11:04 		Don't think it has been clarified one way or the other We can talk it up next week maybe.
 
107Tree
      ID: 484391021
      Sun, May 16, 2004, 11:18 		claim: Paul London
drop: Brian Christopher, that son of a bitch who wasted by number one waiver priority...
 
108wiggs
      ID: 63301420
      Sun, May 16, 2004, 15:34 		Claim official. New waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Farn
5. Species
5 Tree
7 Mike D
8. MITH
9 Kev
10 Wiggs
 
109Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 08:56 		Chavo/Rikishi claim now official.

MITH's New roster:
Trish Stratus
Shelton Benjamin
Bradshaw
Luther Rains
Kenzo Suzuki
TE Matt
Matt Morgan
Chavo Classic

Mike D's Kidman/Nunzio claim also official:
Mike D's new roster:
HHH
Eddie Guerrero
Hardcore Holly
Jazz
Torrie Wilson
Nidia
Kidman
Goldberg

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Farn
5. Species
6 Tree
7. Kev
8. Wiggs
9. MITH
10. Mike D
 
110Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Mon, May 17, 2004, 09:11 		Thanks MITH.
 
111Tree
      ID: 514291819
      Tue, May 18, 2004, 21:06 		Claim of Paul London now official:

Tree's new roster:
Chavo, Jr.
Danny Basham
Buh Buh
Maven
HBK
Jacqueline
Paul London
Nick "Eugene" Dinsmore

new Drop: Jacqueline
new claim: Takako Inoue

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Farn
5. Species
6. Kev
7. Wiggs
8. MITH
9. Mike D
10. Tree
 
112Tree
      ID: 15453232
      Tue, May 25, 2004, 21:42 		Claim of Takako Inoue now official

Tree's new roster:
Chavo, Jr.
Danny Basham
Buh Buh
Maven
HBK
Takako Inoue
Paul London
Nick "Eugene" Dinsmore

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Farn
5. Species
6. Kev
7. Wiggs
8. MITH
9. Mike D
10. Tree

 
113Tree
      ID: 31558145
      Tue, Jun 15, 2004, 07:18 		drop: that Japanese chick
add: Chilly William Jones
 
114Great One@ Work
      ID: 40150137
      Wed, Jun 16, 2004, 08:45 		drop - Mark Henry
add - Rodney Mack
 
115Tree
      Donor
      ID: 599393013
      Wed, Jun 16, 2004, 10:01 		Claim of Chilly Willy, future Intercontinental Champion, now official

Tree's new roster:
Chavo, Jr.
Danny Basham
Buh Buh
Maven
HBK
Chilly Willy
Paul London
Nick "Eugene" Dinsmore

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Farn
5. Species
6. Kev
7. Wiggs
8. MITH
9. Mike D
10. Tree
 
116Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Thu, Jun 17, 2004, 10:50 		claim official
Add - Rodney Mack
Drop - Mark Henry

Great One's new roster...
Cena
Edge
Kim
Test
Nitro
Mack
Brock

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Farn
4. Species
5. Kev
6. Wiggs
7. MITH
8. Mike D
9. Tree
10. Great One
 
117Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Sun, Jun 20, 2004, 19:04 		waive:
Chavo Classic
claim:
Jimmy Snuka Jr


waive:
TE Matt
claim:
Mark Magnus
 
118Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 217351118
      Mon, Jun 21, 2004, 19:06 		Claims official.

MITH's New roster:
Trish Stratus
Shelton Benjamin
Bradshaw
Luther Rains
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Jimmy Snuka Jr
Mark Magnus

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Farn
4. Species
5. Kev
6. Wiggs
7. Mike D
8. Tree
9. Great One
10. MITH
 
119Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Tue, Jun 22, 2004, 14:49 		waive
Johnny Nitro
add
Stevie Richards
(these two look strangely alike...)
 
120kev
      ID: 3155515
      Tue, Jun 22, 2004, 15:16 		claim
Steven Richards
drop
Coach (until he is in another PPV match)
 
121Great One
      ID: 35511311
      Sat, Jun 26, 2004, 15:59 		waive
Johnny Nitro
add
Mark Henry
 
122kev
      ID: 3155515
      Sat, Jun 26, 2004, 21:02 		I believe my claim is official, as I do have Richards in my lineup for this week.

Claim official

Latino Superhero Champions add
Steven Richards, Crossdresser

Drops
Coach
 
123kev
      ID: 3155515
      Sat, Jun 26, 2004, 21:03 		Sorry, I did that wrong...

New Waiver order
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Great One
4. Wiggs
5. Farn
6. Species
7. Tree
8. Mike D
9. MITH
10. Kev

Kev's new roster...
Chris Benoit
Lita
Cade
Keibler
Gunn
Rosie
Hurricane
Steven Richards
 
124Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Sun, Jun 27, 2004, 09:06 		Based on MITH's post in 118 it is still off Kev-----should be:

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Farn
4. Species
5. Wiggs
6. Mike D
7. Tree
8. Great One
9. MITH
10. Kev
 
125Great One
      ID: 35511311
      Sun, Jun 27, 2004, 17:42 		Claim Official

drop - Johnny Nitro
add - Mark Henry

Natural Born Thrillers
Cena
Edge
Gail
Test
Rhyno
Mack
Henry
Brock

New Waiver priority:
1. Goatlocker
2. Young Gunz
3. Farn
4. Species
5. Wiggs
6. Mike D
7. Tree
8. MITH
9. Kev
10. Great One
 
126Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 08:51 		waive Test
add John Heidenriech
 
127Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 15:11 		Yoink!

Sorry Great One.

Claim: John Heidenreich
Drop: Mark Magnus
 
128wiggs
      ID: 536251411
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 15:31 		claim heidenrich
waive konnan
 
129Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 19:58 		Claim: John Heidenreich
Waive: Scott Steiner
 
130young gunz
      ID: 6421420
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 21:43 		waive ultimo dragon
claim heindrich
 
131GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 60151121
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 22:38 		Waive Farooq
Claim John Heidenreich

 
132GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 60151121
      Wed, Jul 14, 2004, 22:40 		I would assume the claim is official.

New Waiver priority:

1. Young Gunz
2. Farn
3. Species
4. Wiggs
5. Mike D
6. Tree
7. MITH
8. Kev
9. Great One
10. GoatLocker
 
133Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 10:37 		waive Test
claim Nova/Mike Bucci
 
134Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 10:55 		Again, sorry Great One:

Waive: Mark Magnus
Claim: Bucci
 
135Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 11:01 		drop Test
add Teddy Long
 
136Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 11:59 		drop chili willy
claim: mike bucci (nova)
 
137wiggs
      ID: 206461913
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 12:03 		drop Jeff Hrdy
Claim Nova (my dogs namesake)
 
138Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 14:20 		Claim: Nova/Mike Bucci
Drop: Scott Steiner
 
139young gunz
      ID: 486192619
      Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 20:20 		waive dragon
claim nova
 
140Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 13:25 		You get him gunz.....please post updated roster and new waiver priority.
 
141wiggs
      ID: 206461913
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 14:10 		he already did it.
 
142Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 14:47 		official claim
Waive Test
Add (gulp) Teddy Long

New priority

1. Farn
2. Species
3. Wiggs
4. Mike D
5. Tree
6. MITH
7. Kev
8. GoatLocker
9 Gunz
10. Great One

(this includes Young Gunz dropping down and promptly moving back up one...)
 
143Farn
      ID: 36651269
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 14:55 		well, to be technical your claim for Teddy became official before his claim for Nova. So the correct order is:

New priority

1. Farn
2. Species
3. Wiggs
4. Mike D
5. Tree
6. MITH
7. Kev
8. GoatLocker
9. Great One
10. Young Gunz
 
144Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 15:30 		fine with me...
 
145Great One
      ID: 18683110
      Sat, Jul 31, 2004, 11:23 		drop Brock Lesnar
add Val Venis
 
146Great One
      ID: 1774116
      Sun, Aug 01, 2004, 17:06 		claim official

drop Brock
add Venis

New priority

1. Farn
2. Species
3. Wiggs
4. Mike D
5. Tree
6. MITH
7. Kev
8. GoatLocker
9 Gunz
10. Great One
 
147Great One@ Work
      ID: 285541612
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 09:18 		I should have done him in the first place, I need Smackdown guys...

drop Venus
add Orlando Jordan
 
148Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 11:38 		I need Smackdown guys too.

drop Goldberg
add Jordan
 
149Species
      Leader
      ID: 7724916
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 14:45 		Drop: Scott Steiner
Claim: Orlando Jordan
 
150Farn
      ID: 36651269
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 23:56 		i may as well take a chance since Rico is useless now....

claim (also) official

drop Rico
add Orlando Jordan

New priority

1. Species
2. Wiggs
3. Mike D
4. Tree
5. MITH
6. Kev
7. GoatLocker
8. Gunz
9. Great One
10. Farn
 
151Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 11:47 		Drop Nidia
Claim Brock Lesnar
 
152Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 11:52 		ohhhh...clever...
 
153Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 12:54 		Screw you....I have nothing to lose now.

Drop: Scott Steiner
Claim: Brock Lesnar

Claim official.

New priority

1. Wiggs
2. Mike D
3. Tree
4. MITH
5. Kev
6. GoatLocker
7. Gunz
8. Great One
9. Farn
10. Species

New (crappy) roster:

Undertaker
Matt Hardy, Version Suck-point-O
Christian
Scotty 2 Hotty
Eric Bischoff
Mark Jindrak
Brock Lesnar
Mordecai
 
154Mike D
      Sustainer
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 15:17 		Wow, I didn't expect that!